In the old days there was no paper money. The accepted token of
exchange was precious metal minted into coins by the Church and the
Crown. Because there was only a limited amount of gold and silver
available, the economic life of the nation had a certain regularity.

An even greater restriction existed throughout Christendom. This was
the prohibition against usury, or charging interest. The Church held it
to be a grave sin and the code was upheld by the civil powers. There
were harsh penalties for those who broke the law.

The regulation of usury was to prevent the separation of money from
reality. Money is not a good, it is a measure. It is fraud to pretend
otherwise, and constitutes theft. Usury is making money from lending
money; it is making money from nothing. This is exactly what is
happening today on a colossal scale.

Several important things arose from the prohibition of usury in
medieval Christendom. Firstly Jews, who had taken to wandering around
Europe in the Middle Ages, began to specialise in money-lending and
other practices which were forbidden to Christians. Exploited
Christians, from peasants to aristocrats, found themselves being bled
dry by usurers, which is why there were sporadic uprisings,
imprisonments and expulsions of Jews throughout Europe. It is one
reason why King Edward I expelled them from England in 1290. Oliver
Cromwell allowed them back when the moral authority of the Church was
undermined and the King was beheaded in 1649.

Secondly, gold coins, jewels and other valuables were deposited with
people who held strongboxes. This was usually with goldsmiths and
money-lenders who, more often than not, were one and the same. These
loan-sharks and scriveners realised that, without much chance of being
found out, they could charge people for looking after their deposits
and then use those deposits - which did not belong to them - to make
loans to other people at interest. They soon became rich and powerful.

Gold coins are heavy and awkward to carry around so the custom arose
whereby the money-lenders would issue credit notes to depositors who
began to trade those notes between themselves in commercial
transactions. Paper money had come into existence.

A new form of usury developed as the swindling money-lenders realised
the immoral benefits that could be obtained from such a situation. It
became apparent to these thieves that they could go one step further
than dishonestly using other people's money for financial advantage at
no cost to themselves. They could invent money from absolutely nothing.
They could issue credit notes with nothing to back them up and put them
into circulation as interest-bearing debts. No-one would be any the
wiser. They calculated that they could safely issue notes for up to 10
times more than the gold deposits they held, because the depositors
would never ask for their money back all at the same time.

The principle of modern banking was thus established: invent money from
nothing, put it into circulation as "running cash notes" that have to
be paid back with real wealth that is produced from our labour, sit
back and become unbelievably wealthy and powerful men: hidden rulers of
nations. In England this deceitful system was officially sanctioned in
1694. The usurper of the throne, William of Orange, had overthrown the
legitimate King James II with the financial backing and plotting of
powerful Jewish financiers in Amsterdam. In return he gave the
sovereignty of England to a group of financiers by means of a Charter
allowing them to call themselves the Bank of England. The Charter made
no mention of issuing the nation's money, but within minutes of signing
the new Bank officials were gleefully discussing the form of their
"running cash notes." The same system was adopted in every country by a
process of Masonic revolution and manipulation.
Nowadays banking has become extremely sophisticated but the hidden and
usurious principles behind it remain the same. The British Treasury, in
conjunction with the Bank of England's advisers to the Government,
determine how much money will be issued each year. This has to accord
with the wealth of the nation for that year. But because cash only
accounts for a tiny proportion of financial transactions, it makes no
difference to the bankers at all. Most financial transactions are
carried out with abstract figures on a computer screen that have no
relationship to real wealth. Everything has to be paid for at interest
though - even when it doesn't exist!

The Government still has to pay interest on old and new loans from the
Bank. Only a few years ago it was announced that the interest debt on a
loan taken during the Napoleonic War had just been paid off! This is
where much of our tax money goes.

Who benefits from such a scheme? To ask the question is to answer it.
The Bank of England is the real, but hidden, power in the country.
Politicians are merely puppets controlled by the Bank - or more
accurately, the international banking families. None of the Westminster
traitors dare stand up to these hidden and unelected rulers of the
world, so powerful have they become. Two American presidents, possibly
three, were assassinated for attempting to do so. It is far easier for
them to enjoy their cosy private club than expose the real tyrants -
tyrants who cause high taxes, unemployment, war, famine and misery for
the rest of us. But these despots of the New World Order forget that
Truth is more powerful than they could ever become. And Truth brings
Justice!

www.heretical.com

"5,999,999" wrote:
In the old days there was no paper money. The accepted token of
exchange was precious metal minted into coins by the Church and the
Crown. Because there was only a limited amount of gold and silver
available, the economic life of the nation had a certain regularity.

An even greater restriction existed throughout Christendom. This was
the prohibition against usury, or charging interest. The Church held it
to be a grave sin and the code was upheld by the civil powers. There
were harsh penalties for those who broke the law.

The regulation of usury was to prevent the separation of money from
reality. Money is not a good, it is a measure. It is fraud to pretend
otherwise, and constitutes theft. Usury is making money from lending
money; it is making money from nothing. This is exactly what is
happening today on a colossal scale.

Several important things arose from the prohibition of usury in
medieval Christendom. Firstly Jews, who had taken to wandering around
Europe in the Middle Ages, began to specialise in money-lending and
other practices which were forbidden to Christians. Exploited
Christians, from peasants to aristocrats, found themselves being bled
dry by usurers, which is why there were sporadic uprisings,
imprisonments and expulsions of Jews throughout Europe. It is one
reason why King Edward I expelled them from England in 1290. Oliver
Cromwell allowed them back when the moral authority of the Church was
undermined and the King was beheaded in 1649.

Secondly, gold coins, jewels and other valuables were deposited with
people who held strongboxes. This was usually with goldsmiths and
money-lenders who, more often than not, were one and the same. These
loan-sharks and scriveners realised that, without much chance of being
found out, they could charge people for looking after their deposits
and then use those deposits - which did not belong to them - to make
loans to other people at interest. They soon became rich and powerful.

Gold coins are heavy and awkward to carry around so the custom arose
whereby the money-lenders would issue credit notes to depositors who
began to trade those notes between themselves in commercial
transactions. Paper money had come into existence.

A new form of usury developed as the swindling money-lenders realised
the immoral benefits that could be obtained from such a situation. It
became apparent to these thieves that they could go one step further
than dishonestly using other people's money for financial advantage at
no cost to themselves. They could invent money from absolutely nothing.
They could issue credit notes with nothing to back them up and put them
into circulation as interest-bearing debts. No-one would be any the
wiser. They calculated that they could safely issue notes for up to 10
times more than the gold deposits they held, because the depositors
would never ask for their money back all at the same time.

The principle of modern banking was thus established: invent money from
nothing, put it into circulation as "running cash notes" that have to
be paid back with real wealth that is produced from our labour, sit
back and become unbelievably wealthy and powerful men: hidden rulers of
nations. In England this deceitful system was officially sanctioned in
1694. The usurper of the throne, William of Orange, had overthrown the
legitimate King James II with the financial backing and plotting of
powerful Jewish financiers in Amsterdam. In return he gave the
sovereignty of England to a group of financiers by means of a Charter
allowing them to call themselves the Bank of England. The Charter made
no mention of issuing the nation's money, but within minutes of signing
the new Bank officials were gleefully discussing the form of their
"running cash notes." The same system was adopted in every country by a
process of Masonic revolution and manipulation.
Nowadays banking has become extremely sophisticated but the hidden and
usurious principles behind it remain the same. The British Treasury, in
conjunction with the Bank of England's advisers to the Government,
determine how much money will be issued each year. This has to accord
with the wealth of the nation for that year. But because cash only
accounts for a tiny proportion of financial transactions, it makes no
difference to the bankers at all. Most financial transactions are
carried out with abstract figures on a computer screen that have no
relationship to real wealth. Everything has to be paid for at interest
though - even when it doesn't exist!

The Government still has to pay interest on old and new loans from the
Bank. Only a few years ago it was announced that the interest debt on a
loan taken during the Napoleonic War had just been paid off! This is
where much of our tax money goes.

Who benefits from such a scheme? To ask the question is to answer it.
The Bank of England is the real, but hidden, power in the country.
Politicians are merely puppets controlled by the Bank - or more
accurately, the international banking families. None of the Westminster
traitors dare stand up to these hidden and unelected rulers of the
world, so powerful have they become. Two American presidents, possibly
three, were assassinated for attempting to do so. It is far easier for
them to enjoy their cosy private club than expose the real tyrants -
tyrants who cause high taxes, unemployment, war, famine and misery for
the rest of us. But these despots of the New World Order forget that
Truth is more powerful than they could ever become. And Truth brings
Justice!

I am just about to go down to the village Post Office to pay a lot of bills.
I can do all my banking there, that is, until it is closed along with
thousands of other rural and urban Post Offices. It is run by a particularly
miserable couple who will be even more miserable when they are made
redundant, although the post Office will give them a good payout to soften
the blow.

In the old days there was no paper money. The accepted token of
exchange was precious metal minted into coins by the Church and the
Crown. Because there was only a limited amount of gold and silver
available, the economic life of the nation had a certain regularity.

An even greater restriction existed throughout Christendom. This was
the prohibition against usury, or charging interest. The Church held it
to be a grave sin and the code was upheld by the civil powers. There
were harsh penalties for those who broke the law.

The regulation of usury was to prevent the separation of money from
reality. Money is not a good, it is a measure. It is fraud to pretend
otherwise, and constitutes theft. Usury is making money from lending
money; it is making money from nothing. This is exactly what is
happening today on a colossal scale.

Lending money is NOT "making money from nothing". An informed
borrower is willing to pay the interest and may find it enormously
to his financial advantage to borrow (e.g. loans for a house or a
college education). A lender should be compensated for his risk
in possibly not getting paid back, and the opportunity cost of not
being able to use it for something else profitable. It can be a
win-win deal.

Fractional-reserve banking and government deficit spending are
arguably "creating money from nothing". But anyone who doesn't
know about fractional-reserve banking nowadays simply isn't paying
attention. It's not a secret and I learned about it in Social
Studies class.

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:06:06 GMT, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:32:57 -0000, (Gordon
Burditt) wrote:


Lending money is NOT "making money from nothing". An informed
borrower is willing to pay the interest and may find it enormously
to his financial advantage to borrow (e.g. loans for a house or a
college education).
Never a lender or a borrower be I had this drummed into me from an
early age and have stuck to it .


"Never pick your nose at the dinner table" has always worked out well
for me.

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 01:06:06 GMT, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:32:57 -0000, (Gordon
Burditt) wrote:


Lending money is NOT "making money from nothing". An informed
borrower is willing to pay the interest and may find it enormously
to his financial advantage to borrow (e.g. loans for a house or a
college education).
Never a lender or a borrower be I had this drummed into me from an
early age and have stuck to it .


"Never pick your nose at the dinner table" has always worked out well
for me.

My bet is that you're doing far better in life with the advice you
had too.

--
Keith

"Bob Ward" wrote:
"Never pick your nose at the dinner table" has always worked out well
for me.

My mother also disapproved of elbows on the table, but never mentioned nose
picking.

"Consumer" wrote in message
...
"Bob Ward" wrote:
"Never pick your nose at the dinner table" has always worked out well
for me.

My mother also disapproved of elbows on the table, but never mentioned
nose picking.

Try picking your nose with your elbows on the table...

They *really* come down hard on you.
Especially if you use a fish-knife.

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:08:09 GMT, "Sysyphus"
wrote:


"Consumer" wrote in message
...
"Bob Ward" wrote:
"Never pick your nose at the dinner table" has always worked out well
for me.

My mother also disapproved of elbows on the table, but never mentioned
nose picking.

Try picking your nose with your elbows on the table...

They *really* come down hard on you.
Especially if you use a fish-knife.



I never tried picking my nose with my elbows. Any special techniques
involved?

Somebody wrote:

My mother also disapproved of elbows on the table [...]


Mine, too. That's one of those arbitrary and nonsensical
but absolutely non-negotiable aesthetic fetishes that women
are prone to.

My mother had another wierd one: she hated, absolutely *hated*
it when I tore meat from a piece of fried chicken with my hand
and placed it into my mouth. Picking up the breast or thigh or
drumstick in my hands and gnawing on it like a caveman was per-
fectly acceptable, though. Go figure.



Geoff

--
"Kwanzaa bells, dashikis sell, Whitey has to pay
Burning, shooting, oh what fun on this made-up holiday!"