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I have a general question. If I plan on purchasing a monix mgb-1 jammer
(http://www.monix.com.tw/mgb1.htm) that is AC only, how would I go about attaching the thing to a 12v battery; Understandably, I don't like the prospect of being tied down by the power adapter, but I am not sure what battery to get or even how to connect the battery to the device. I pray I am not looking for some kind of car battery as that would defeat the purpose of portablility. So far the Power Pack with 400 Watt Inverter & 18 Amp Hour Battery (http://www.dcacpowerinverters.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi? preadd=action&key=W5251) is the closest thing I've seen. Isn't there some way I can hook it up to a battery pack or something via inverter? The output power of the a/c adaptor for the monix is 12v, 1.25 amps. VERY gratefully, Navid |
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If you're in the USA, be prepared for a visit by Feds wuth guns & badges
(not that I don't sympathize & applaud the sentiment). |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:14:54 +0000, Navid wrote:
Why do you say that? Have you heard of any prosecution recently? Even if not, are you prepared to be the test case? -- Lenroc |
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Lenroc wrote in news:cSpib.23995$gi2.1732
@fed1read01: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:14:54 +0000, Navid wrote: Why do you say that? Have you heard of any prosecution recently? Even if not, are you prepared to be the test case? Yeah, I'd like to sell the book and movie rights. "FEDS CAPTURE VIGALANTE JAMMER" lol |
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Lenroc wrote in news:cSpib.23995$gi2.1732
@fed1read01: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:14:54 +0000, Navid wrote: Why do you say that? Have you heard of any prosecution recently? Even if not, are you prepared to be the test case? I'll take a calculated risk. I think esp. after 9/11 the feds would have better things to do. |
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Lenroc wrote in news:cSpib.23995$gi2.1732
@fed1read01: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 04:14:54 +0000, Navid wrote: Why do you say that? Have you heard of any prosecution recently? Even if not, are you prepared to be the test case? |
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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:53:12 GMT, Navid wrote:
I have a general question. If I plan on purchasing a monix mgb-1 jammer (http://www.monix.com.tw/mgb1.htm) that is AC only, how would I go about attaching the thing to a 12v battery; Understandably, I don't like the prospect of being tied down by the power adapter, but I am not sure what battery to get or even how to connect the battery to the device. I pray I am not looking for some kind of car battery as that would defeat the purpose of portablility. So far the Power Pack with 400 Watt Inverter & 18 Amp Hour Battery (http://www.dcacpowerinverters.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi? preadd=action&key=W5251) is the closest thing I've seen. Isn't there some way I can hook it up to a battery pack or something via inverter? The output power of the a/c adaptor for the monix is 12v, 1.25 amps. VERY gratefully, Navid I think it is likely you might run the thing on a pack of 10 batteries, if you don't want to run it indefinitely . . . Nickel Hydride rechargeable batteries would be better. They don't give the current drain but it is probably under an amp for one watt out. There are a few rechargeable AA size cells that can supply that for a short time. I like the idea. Particularly when I see someone with one glued to their ear and having problems keeping the car in just one lane. It would be a fun toy in a restaurant or shopping mall. It may be illegal to use it, but I don't think I'd sweat it unless you plan to stay in a fixed location. The cell towers can be used to triangulate the signals but that only gets them within 200 meters or so. They (cell operator, FCC et al) would need some response time before they could pin you down. As far as I know, the practice of jamming cell phones hasn't become so prevalent that there is any response mechanism for catching "offenders." I don't know that I'd try it on Capital hill . . . There is/was a schematic on the web for building one from a junked cell phone. How reliable is Monix? I keep trying to download the catalog and get corrupted file messages. What does the jammer cost? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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: On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:53:12 GMT, Navid wrote: I have a general question. If I plan on purchasing a monix mgb-1 jammer (http://www.monix.com.tw/mgb1.htm) that is AC only, how would I go about attaching the thing to a 12v battery; Understandably, I don't like the prospect of being tied down by the power adapter, but I am not sure what battery to get or even how to connect the battery to the device. I pray I am not looking for some kind of car battery as that would defeat the purpose of portablility. So far the Power Pack with 400 Watt Inverter & 18 Amp Hour Battery (http://www.dcacpowerinverters.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi? preadd=action&key=W5251) is the closest thing I've seen. Isn't there some way I can hook it up to a battery pack or something via inverter? The output power of the a/c adaptor for the monix is 12v, 1.25 amps. VERY gratefully, Navid I think it is likely you might run the thing on a pack of 10 batteries, if you don't want to run it indefinitely . . . Nickel Hydride rechargeable batteries would be better. They don't give the current drain but it is probably under an amp for one watt out. There are a few rechargeable AA size cells that can supply that for a short time. I plan on using the thing in short bursts when on the move. Should Radio Shack have these sorts of packs? Would it be difficult to connect it to the Monix? I'm guessing there's some type of apparatus available that lets you plug into the A/C port to allow for battery connection? If you had a device that gave out 3.2W (1.2amps 12V) how would you hook it up? 10 regular alkaline batteries? Tape them together? Would that be the easiest? I like the idea. Particularly when I see someone with one glued to their ear and having problems keeping the car in just one lane. I plan on using my inverter quite a bit to help promote traffic safety. ;-) It would be a fun toy in a restaurant or shopping mall. It may be illegal to use it, but I don't think I'd sweat it unless you plan to stay in a fixed location. The cell towers can be used to triangulate the signals but that only gets them within 200 meters or so. They (cell operator, FCC et al) would need some response time before they could pin you down. Getting it through Customs is the toughest part. I checked Lexis-Nexis. There haven't been any prosecutions in recent news. Why? Most people don't know about it and could care less. It's not an issue. Those who do know and use the technology know not to abuse it. It can have dangerous consequences. I am well aware of possible emergency and police interference. I only operate in short bursts unless I am in an enclosed location. I have the weigh the risks against the many more careless drivers out there. As far as I know, the practice of jamming cell phones hasn't become so prevalent that there is any response mechanism for catching "offenders." I don't know that I'd try it on Capital hill . . LMAO. . There is/was a schematic on the web for building one from a junked cell phone. Do you know any good books on basic electronics? Particularly, I am interested in learning about volts, amps, watts and their theoretical and practical relations. Are the numbers stackable? ie. 10 1v batteries = 10v Things like that. I'm really a novice when it comes to hands-on stuff. How reliable is Monix? I keep trying to download the catalog and get corrupted file messages. What does the jammer cost? I shipped the SH066 back and upgraded to the MGB-1, but it's still enroute. The SH066 doled out a paltry 20mW, and it's efficacy faded with the battery drain. Overall, it had only a 50% success rate at best. I think because the U.S. has such a wide range of cell systems as opposed to GSM, the 20 mW wasn't enough juice esp. for strong connections. I never could knock anybody using Verizon for sure. Sprint was a piece of cake. The MGB-1 has a whopping 3.2W but runs primarily by A/C, but I picked up an inverter to use in my car. Hopefully, it'll work well. http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/mgb1.htm It's a good company. Mike is very helpful and provides excellent customer service. The price is 490.897 USD per latest exchange rates. I think the price is competitive with the scarce offerings I've seen online. Honestly, if one could arrange a trip overseas, one would have a better idea; I'm not going anywhere for a while. The Israeli C-Guard LP is over $1000 bucks but has quite a few bells and whistles. Plus, it's portable on purchase. The Israelis have a reputation for making top-of-the-line military stuff, but it's expensive. http://www.netline.co.il/LP.htm I'll tell you more in the next week or so. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:00:04 GMT, Navid wrote:
snip I think it is likely you might run the thing on a pack of 10 batteries, if you don't want to run it indefinitely . . . Nickel Hydride rechargeable batteries would be better. They don't give the current drain but it is probably under an amp for one watt out. There are a few rechargeable AA size cells that can supply that for a short time. I plan on using the thing in short bursts when on the move. Should Radio Shack have these sorts of packs? Would it be difficult to connect it to the Monix? I'm guessing there's some type of apparatus available that lets you plug into the A/C port to allow for battery connection? If you had a device that gave out 3.2W (1.2amps 12V) how would you hook it up? 10 regular alkaline batteries? Tape them together? Would that be the easiest? Your power with batteries will be a problem that's why you should consider rechargeable ones. They output loads of current and don't cost as much in the long run. Many of the radio control hobby catalogs sell batteries and packs optimized for high current use. If small isn't an issue, use the largest size battery you can manage. Some of the newer D size batteries NiMH can put out 8.5 - 11 amp hours. AA's are rated up to 2 amp hours - but you may not be able to discharge them at a 1 amp rate (more like 200 Milliamps for 10 hours) In any event, you will be stressing the batteries and they may overheat - bigger is better in that respect. Alkaline D cells will output an amp or two. Good enough to see how well it works. I like the idea. Particularly when I see someone with one glued to their ear and having problems keeping the car in just one lane. I plan on using my inverter quite a bit to help promote traffic safety. ;-) I had two close calls with cell users on the road. One was on my MC and it took some fancy driving and a lot of adrenaline to avoid a wreck. Second was when I was in my truck and some woman in a small car saw me just as she crossed into my lane. She over corrected and found the ditch on the other side of the road and damaged a tree. I'm always seeing someone weaving around and not maintaining a consistent speed while using a phone. I especially like the woman ahead of me getting gas this morning - she wasn't about to move when she was on the phone - talking and pumping. I resorted to using my horn. Her tank was already full when I pulled up, but she kept up the charade of pumping gas because she didn't want to get in the car. It may be illegal to use it, but I don't think I'd sweat it unless you plan to stay in a fixed location. The cell towers can be used to triangulate the signals but that only gets them within 200 meters or so. They (cell operator, FCC et al) would need some response time before they could pin you down. Getting it through Customs is the toughest part. I checked Lexis-Nexis. There haven't been any prosecutions in recent news. Why? Most people don't know about it and could care less. It's not an issue. Those who do know and use the technology know not to abuse it. It can have dangerous consequences. I am well aware of possible emergency and police interference. I only operate in short bursts unless I am in an enclosed location. I have the weigh the risks against the many more careless drivers out there. I've had a prepaid cell phone for 1 year and used it once, to see if it worked. As far as I know, the practice of jamming cell phones hasn't become so prevalent that there is any response mechanism for catching "offenders." I don't know that I'd try it on Capital hill . . LMAO. . There is/was a schematic on the web for building one from a junked cell phone. Do you know any good books on basic electronics? Particularly, I am interested in learning about volts, amps, watts and their theoretical and practical relations. Are the numbers stackable? ie. 10 1v batteries = 10v Things like that. I'm really a novice when it comes to hands-on stuff. I recently checked half.com for heath learning systems AC and DC electronics they are the best books I've seen on learning electronics, particularly if you are going it alone. The books were in the $5 range the course is still available but much more money. Batteries can be wired in series to get the voltages to add or in parallel to get the current capacity to add. (within limitations that would take explaining) 10 - 1.2 volt 1 Amp Hour batteries can equal 12 volts at 1 Amp Hour in series, or 1.2 volts at 10 Amp Hours. Total power is the same in both cases. Higher voltage is analogous to higher pressure (say water from a faucet), higher current is analogous to water moving (with little pressure) but across a broad creek. (more volume but less pressure) I'm sure you could wire it yourself. Just observe polarity because electronics is easily damaged by wrong polarity. It would help to own a voltmeter to check the wiring. (and it would help to know how to use a "multitester" Volt/Ohm/Ammeter so you don't damage it) How reliable is Monix? I keep trying to download the catalog and get corrupted file messages. What does the jammer cost? I shipped the SH066 back and upgraded to the MGB-1, but it's still enroute. The SH066 doled out a paltry 20mW, and it's efficacy faded with the battery drain. Overall, it had only a 50% success rate at best. I think because the U.S. has such a wide range of cell systems as opposed to GSM, the 20 mW wasn't enough juice esp. for strong connections. I never could knock anybody using Verizon for sure. Sprint was a piece of cake. The MGB-1 has a whopping 3.2W but runs primarily by A/C, but I picked up an inverter to use in my car. Hopefully, it'll work well. http://www.globalgadgetuk.com/mgb1.htm It's a good company. Mike is very helpful and provides excellent customer service. The price is 490.897 USD per latest exchange rates. I think the price is competitive with the scarce offerings I've seen online. Honestly, if one could arrange a trip overseas, one would have a better idea; I'm not going anywhere for a while. The Israeli C-Guard LP is over $1000 bucks but has quite a few bells and whistles. Plus, it's portable on purchase. The Israelis have a reputation for making top-of-the-line military stuff, but it's expensive. http://www.netline.co.il/LP.htm I'll tell you more in the next week or so. Looking forward to it. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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BTW it looks like you are planning on using an invertor to step up your car's 12 volts to 120 volts to operate a power supply to provide 12 volts to the jammer? Wouldn't a cigarette lighter adapter cord work with less hassle? Car 12 volts is nominal, and more like 13.8 when the car is running. 12-12.5 with the engine off. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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: snip BTW it looks like you are planning on using an invertor to step up your car's 12 volts to 120 volts to operate a power supply to provide 12 volts to the jammer? Wouldn't a cigarette lighter adapter cord work with less hassle? Car 12 volts is nominal, and more like 13.8 when the car is running. 12-12.5 with the engine off. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- Doh! Yeah, I only got the inverter because I had the wrong idea of what an inverter was. I used to live overseas a few years ago, and one of my friends had an "inverter" he would switch on when the lights cut out. Just enough juice to power the ceiling fans. This is why I thought all inverters, by definition, had batteries in them. Given this flawed view, I thought my inverter would be an ideal solution to my portability quandary-- in and out of the car walking around. Thanks again. |
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Hope you don't live near me
"Navid" wrote in message . .. I have a general question. If I plan on purchasing a monix mgb-1 jammer (http://www.monix.com.tw/mgb1.htm) that is AC only, how would I go about attaching the thing to a 12v battery; Understandably, I don't like the prospect of being tied down by the power adapter, but I am not sure what battery to get or even how to connect the battery to the device. I pray I am not looking for some kind of car battery as that would defeat the purpose of portablility. So far the Power Pack with 400 Watt Inverter & 18 Amp Hour Battery (http://www.dcacpowerinverters.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi? preadd=action&key=W5251) is the closest thing I've seen. Isn't there some way I can hook it up to a battery pack or something via inverter? The output power of the a/c adaptor for the monix is 12v, 1.25 amps. VERY gratefully, Navid |
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"Joe Webster" wrote in
news:k7kjb.77185$AH4.52881@lakeread06: Hope you don't live near me Don't worry. I don't live anywhere near RI. lol |
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:00:04 GMT, Navid wrote:
I plan on using the thing in short bursts when on the move. Should Radio Shack have these sorts of packs? Would it be difficult to connect it to the Monix? I'm guessing there's some type of apparatus available that lets you plug into the A/C port to allow for battery connection? If you had a device that gave out 3.2W (1.2amps 12V) how would you hook it up? 10 regular alkaline batteries? Tape them together? Would that be the easiest? I like the idea. Particularly when I see someone with one glued to their ear and having problems keeping the car in just one lane. I plan on using my inverter quite a bit to help promote traffic safety. ;-) If your jammer works, a driver won't give up on his call, he'll retry. Completely counterproductive. Mind your own business. |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:25:42 +0100, Laurence Payne wrote:
If your jammer works, a driver won't give up on his call, he'll retry. Completely counterproductive. Mind your own business. LOL... good point. "I'll be home at..." "WTF!?! Stupid Phone" *Looks down at phone to redial* "Can you hear me?" "WTF!?? Stupid phone' *Looks down again* -- Lenroc |
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Laurence Payne wrote in
: snip I like the idea. Particularly when I see someone with one glued to their ear and having problems keeping the car in just one lane. I plan on using my inverter quite a bit to help promote traffic safety. ;-) If your jammer works, a driver won't give up on his call, he'll retry. Completely counterproductive. Mind your own business. Maybe the people in Leeds are more persistent. Out of curiosity, how is the overall cell etiquette over there? |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:31:37 GMT, Navid wrote:
If your jammer works, a driver won't give up on his call, he'll retry. Completely counterproductive. Mind your own business. Maybe the people in Leeds are more persistent. Out of curiosity, how is the overall cell etiquette over there? Haven't a clue. Never been to Leeds :-) |
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