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Electronics Books for sale on eBay
Cleaning up my library.....cmos cookbook, ttl cookbook etc.....
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0500, "baument"
wrote: Cleaning up my library.....cmos cookbook, ttl cookbook etc..... http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...QQsassZbaument --- instead of "Cleaning up my library", don't you mean "trying to sell **** which I don't know how to value? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0500, "baument" wrote: Cleaning up my library.....cmos cookbook, ttl cookbook etc..... http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...QQsassZbaument --- instead of "Cleaning up my library", don't you mean "trying to sell **** which I don't know how to value? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books... |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:09:40 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0500, "baument" wrote: Cleaning up my library.....cmos cookbook, ttl cookbook etc..... http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...QQsassZbaument --- instead of "Cleaning up my library", don't you mean "trying to sell **** which I don't know how to value? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... --- Not a bad idea, I love the smell of roasting SPAM --- Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books... --- Ah, I see you disagree with my assessment of the poster as a SPAMmer, who has no interest in anything except dumping what he considers to be junk. My logs go back a few years and I've never seen him around here before so, unless I'm missing something, he's not interested in contributing anything; all he wants to do is get rid of some of what he considers to be junk. I will give you this, though; He's targeting his audience, so at least the SPAM isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 10:09:40 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 17:15:37 -0500, "baument" wrote: Cleaning up my library.....cmos cookbook, ttl cookbook etc..... http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQ...QQsassZbaument --- instead of "Cleaning up my library", don't you mean "trying to sell **** which I don't know how to value? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... --- Not a bad idea, I love the smell of roasting SPAM --- Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books... --- Ah, I see you disagree with my assessment of the poster as a SPAMmer, who has no interest in anything except dumping what he considers to be junk. My logs go back a few years and I've never seen him around here before so, unless I'm missing something, he's not interested in contributing anything; all he wants to do is get rid of some of what he considers to be junk. I will give you this, though; He's targeting his audience, so at least the SPAM isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer He is contributing books and someone, obvious not you, might be interested. I see no harm. It's better than throwing them in the trash. isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, I had no idea you could buy stock in an email address... lol... |
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:47:40 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . Ah, I see you disagree with my assessment of the poster as a SPAMmer, who has no interest in anything except dumping what he considers to be junk. My logs go back a few years and I've never seen him around here before so, unless I'm missing something, he's not interested in contributing anything; all he wants to do is get rid of some of what he considers to be junk. I will give you this, though; He's targeting his audience, so at least the SPAM isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer He is contributing books and someone, obvious not you, might be interested. --- I disagree. Were he contributing them, they wouldn't be for sale. he'd be giving them away. --- I see no harm. --- I see you have a higher tolerance for SPAM than I do. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:47:40 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. Ah, I see you disagree with my assessment of the poster as a SPAMmer, who has no interest in anything except dumping what he considers to be junk. My logs go back a few years and I've never seen him around here before so, unless I'm missing something, he's not interested in contributing anything; all he wants to do is get rid of some of what he considers to be junk. I will give you this, though; He's targeting his audience, so at least the SPAM isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer He is contributing books and someone, obvious not you, might be interested. --- I disagree. Were he contributing them, they wouldn't be for sale. he'd be giving them away. --- I see no harm. --- I see you have a higher tolerance for SPAM than I do. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer -- I see you have a higher tolerance for SPAM than I do -- I guess so, If he was peddeling viagra in alt.electronics I would take a different view. I am a capitalist, therefore I belive he has every write to ask for money. I also do not belive that every offer of something "For Sale" should be considered SPAM. The trade of goods for money is what keeps this country going. Look around you. There is not one material thing that was not or does not contain a product that sombody sold to sombody else. To ridicule anyone just because they are asking for payment in un American in my point of view. It seems that the anti SPAM frenzy has gotten to a point that if anyone offers anything for sale some is sure to jump all over them with belittling and disrespectfull verbage. Reading along a finding these exchanges gets as old and tyiring as finding SPAM itself. I see you are a professional and would like to think that such verbage would be beneath you. The books that this person is trying to sell may be of interest to someone else who reads alt.electronics Who knows, that person may get em for a buck each... --- I disagree. Were he contributing them, they wouldn't be for sale. he'd be giving them away. --- Wrong. They would then be "free" contributions. The act of asking for payment does not negate the contribution. Einstien contributed alot to the world of physics. He was paid well for his contributions. "Every over-reaction has an equal and opposite over-reaction" :-) |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:34:37 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:47:40 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message ... Ah, I see you disagree with my assessment of the poster as a SPAMmer, who has no interest in anything except dumping what he considers to be junk. My logs go back a few years and I've never seen him around here before so, unless I'm missing something, he's not interested in contributing anything; all he wants to do is get rid of some of what he considers to be junk. I will give you this, though; He's targeting his audience, so at least the SPAM isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer He is contributing books and someone, obvious not you, might be interested. --- I disagree. Were he contributing them, they wouldn't be for sale. he'd be giving them away. --- Wrong. They would then be "free" contributions. The act of asking for payment does not negate the contribution. Einstien contributed alot to the world of physics. He was paid well for his contributions. I see no harm. --- I see you have a higher tolerance for SPAM than I do. -- I guess so, If he was peddeling viagra in alt.electronics I would take a different view. --- There is no difference between peddling viagra and peddling electronics books here. They're both peddling, and this is a newsgroup chartered for the purpose of discussing electronics topics, not a flea market. --- I am a capitalist, therefore I belive he has every write to ask for money. --- Anyone can ask for money, but this is not the appropriate place to try to sell things. As I pointed out earlier, this is a newsgroup chartered for the purpose of discussing electronics topics, not a flea market. --- I also do not belive that every offer of something "For Sale" should be considered SPAM. --- In this newsgroup it _is_ SPAM. There are other newsgroups around where his pitch would have been appropriate, but not this one. --- The trade of goods for money is what keeps this country going. Look around you. There is not one material thing that was not or does not contain a product that sombody sold to sombody else. To ridicule anyone just because they are asking for payment in un American in my point of view. --- I don't understand why you can't understand that it's a question of what's appropriate and what isn't. Do you welcome uninvited beggars at your door asking foir money? --- It seems that the anti SPAM frenzy has gotten to a point that if anyone offers anything for sale some is sure to jump all over them with belittling and disrespectfull verbage. --- That's because SPAM and its purveryors have gotten so out of hand that they're incurring the wrath of everyone exposed to it/them. --- Reading along a finding these exchanges gets as old and tyiring as finding SPAM itself. --- I don't know what you're trying to say. Is English your second language? --- I see you are a professional and would like to think that such verbage would be beneath you. --- Why? Do you think that because I'm a professional I have to write and talk the way you think that "professionals" should? That's ridiculous. --- The books that this person is trying to sell may be of interest to someone else who reads alt.electronics --- Yeah, and Viagra may be also, but you had a problem with that, no? --- Who knows, that person may get em for a buck each... --- Really, who cares? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:34:37 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:47:40 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message m... Ah, I see you disagree with my assessment of the poster as a SPAMmer, who has no interest in anything except dumping what he considers to be junk. My logs go back a few years and I've never seen him around here before so, unless I'm missing something, he's not interested in contributing anything; all he wants to do is get rid of some of what he considers to be junk. I will give you this, though; He's targeting his audience, so at least the SPAM isn't as bad as if he was selling stock in, say, -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer He is contributing books and someone, obvious not you, might be interested. --- I disagree. Were he contributing them, they wouldn't be for sale. he'd be giving them away. --- Wrong. They would then be "free" contributions. The act of asking for payment does not negate the contribution. Einstien contributed alot to the world of physics. He was paid well for his contributions. I see no harm. --- I see you have a higher tolerance for SPAM than I do. -- I guess so, If he was peddeling viagra in alt.electronics I would take a different view. --- There is no difference between peddling viagra and peddling electronics books here. They're both peddling, and this is a newsgroup chartered for the purpose of discussing electronics topics, not a flea market. --- I am a capitalist, therefore I belive he has every write to ask for money. --- Anyone can ask for money, but this is not the appropriate place to try to sell things. As I pointed out earlier, this is a newsgroup chartered for the purpose of discussing electronics topics, not a flea market. --- I also do not belive that every offer of something "For Sale" should be considered SPAM. --- In this newsgroup it _is_ SPAM. There are other newsgroups around where his pitch would have been appropriate, but not this one. --- The trade of goods for money is what keeps this country going. Look around you. There is not one material thing that was not or does not contain a product that sombody sold to sombody else. To ridicule anyone just because they are asking for payment in un American in my point of view. --- I don't understand why you can't understand that it's a question of what's appropriate and what isn't. Do you welcome uninvited beggars at your door asking foir money? --- It seems that the anti SPAM frenzy has gotten to a point that if anyone offers anything for sale some is sure to jump all over them with belittling and disrespectfull verbage. --- That's because SPAM and its purveryors have gotten so out of hand that they're incurring the wrath of everyone exposed to it/them. --- Reading along a finding these exchanges gets as old and tyiring as finding SPAM itself. --- I don't know what you're trying to say. Is English your second language? --- I see you are a professional and would like to think that such verbage would be beneath you. --- Why? Do you think that because I'm a professional I have to write and talk the way you think that "professionals" should? That's ridiculous. --- The books that this person is trying to sell may be of interest to someone else who reads alt.electronics --- Yeah, and Viagra may be also, but you had a problem with that, no? --- Who knows, that person may get em for a buck each... --- Really, who cares? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --- Yeah, and Viagra may be also, but you had a problem with that, no? --- John, I know you understand the distinction between Viagra and a ttl cookbook. That argument is a non starter. Don't try to twist things around. I'm smarter than that. --- Do you think that because I'm a professional I have to write and talk the way you think that "professionals" should? That's ridiculous. --- Yes. No, Professional behavior is common knowledge. It's not only this post that I find your language to be abrasive. You seem to like to jump all over anybody who may have a different opinion or point of view no matter the subject. --- I don't know what you're trying to say. Is English your second language? --- Now you have lowered yourself to the use childish insults. C'mon John, You can do better that that. How old are you? Yea sure, I don't allways proof read and I'm not the world's best typist but, Fliebend in drei sprachen. In this newsgroup it _is_ SPAM. There are other newsgroups around where his pitch would have been appropriate, but not this one. I didn't see a sign on the door You might have mentioned this to the OP. It may have been more effective. If I had a $50K Storage Scope that I was willing to part with for a few hundred bucks it would be inapropriate to post that fact in this group? That's ridiculous. Who knows, that person may get em for a buck each... --- Really, who cares? Because you don't care you assume the entire world must not. Incredibly self-centered. I do. I really would like to see those books end up in the hands of somebody who might learn from them. And there is a pretty good chance that someone like that just might be subscribed to this group. And I also think your rule of absolutely no mention of the words "for sale" is unrealistic and unenforceable. I have fought on more than one occasion in defense of my country and what it stands for. So, things like capitalism and freedom of speech are pretty high on my list of what is and what is not important. ONE POST from a guy trying to offer up some electronics books in an electronics forum is_not_ inappropriate and does_not_ warrant an ass chewing. However, some guy in a news group trying impose his views of what is and what is not appropriate and to limit another's write to free speech does. The OP was not being Abusive. You sir, take every oppertunity to be abusive. Makes it difficult to take you seriously. |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:37:05 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . --- Yeah, and Viagra may be also, but you had a problem with that, no? --- John, I know you understand the distinction between Viagra and a ttl cookbook. That argument is a non starter. Don't try to twist things around. I'm smarter than that. --- Smarter than what??? You stated earlier that it wouldn't be OK to try to sell Viagra here but it would be OK to sell books, so it looks like to me that the only difference there is your personal distaste for Viagra. My point is that the act of offering _anything_ for sale here is SPAM, regardless of whether it's SPAM which you approve of or not. --- --- Do you think that because I'm a professional I have to write and talk the way you think that "professionals" should? That's ridiculous. --- Yes. No, Professional behavior is common knowledge. It's not only this post that I find your language to be abrasive. You seem to like to jump all over anybody who may have a different opinion or point of view no matter the subject. --- Not true, but what I _do_ like to do is try to correct factual errors when I find them and hypocrisy when I see it, and that sometimes leads to egos being bruised. Case in point, this thread, where my position is that the poster who was advertising his auctions on ebay was SPAMming the group. Your position seems to be that it's OK for some SPAM to be posted, as long as you approve of it, but not SPAM of which you approve. That seems a little hypocritical to me. --- --- I don't know what you're trying to say. Is English your second language? --- Now you have lowered yourself to the use childish insults. C'mon John, You can do better that that. How old are you? Yea sure, I don't allways proof read and I'm not the world's best typist but, Fliebend in drei sprachen. --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- In this newsgroup it _is_ SPAM. There are other newsgroups around where his pitch would have been appropriate, but not this one. I didn't see a sign on the door --- the sign says "alt.electronics", not "alt.announce.your.ebay.auctions.here". --- You might have mentioned this to the OP. It may have been more effective. --- You do it your way and I'll do it mine, thank you very much. --- If I had a $50K Storage Scope that I was willing to part with for a few hundred bucks it would be inapropriate to post that fact in this group? That's ridiculous. --- No, it's not. A whore is still a whore whether she gets a hundred dollars or a hundred thousand. --- Who knows, that person may get em for a buck each... --- Really, who cares? Because you don't care you assume the entire world must not. Incredibly self-centered. --- And because you say you do you think everyone should? --- I do. I really would like to see those books end up in the hands of somebody who might learn from them. And there is a pretty good chance that someone like that just might be subscribed to this group. --- Then I have a suggestion for you, since you say you care so much about it. Why not go buy the books and then offer them to anyone here who wants them, for free? --- And I also think your rule of absolutely no mention of the words "for sale" is unrealistic and unenforceable. --- That doesn't make me wrong, does it? --- I have fought on more than one occasion in defense of my country and what it stands for. So, things like capitalism and freedom of speech are pretty high on my list of what is and what is not important. --- And yet, if you had your way, you'd have me shut up because I choose to post in ways of which you don't approve? Go wave your flag somewhere else, hypocrite. --- ONE POST from a guy trying to offer up some electronics books in an electronics forum is_not_ inappropriate and does_not_ warrant an ass chewing. --- That's _your_ opinion, and you're welcome to it. --- However, some guy in a news group trying impose his views of what is and what is not appropriate and to limit another's write to free speech does. --- It's not "write", it's "right" Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. --- The OP was not being Abusive. --- _I_ think he was, and I made that clear, as is my right. --- You sir, take every oppertunity to be abusive. --- Not _every_ opportunity, but I do delight in pricking balloons. --- Makes it difficult to take you seriously. --- So don't... -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:37:05 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. --- Yeah, and Viagra may be also, but you had a problem with that, no? --- John, I know you understand the distinction between Viagra and a ttl cookbook. That argument is a non starter. Don't try to twist things around. I'm smarter than that. --- Smarter than what??? You stated earlier that it wouldn't be OK to try to sell Viagra here but it would be OK to sell books, so it looks like to me that the only difference there is your personal distaste for Viagra. My point is that the act of offering _anything_ for sale here is SPAM, regardless of whether it's SPAM which you approve of or not. --- --- Do you think that because I'm a professional I have to write and talk the way you think that "professionals" should? That's ridiculous. --- Yes. No, Professional behavior is common knowledge. It's not only this post that I find your language to be abrasive. You seem to like to jump all over anybody who may have a different opinion or point of view no matter the subject. --- Not true, but what I _do_ like to do is try to correct factual errors when I find them and hypocrisy when I see it, and that sometimes leads to egos being bruised. Case in point, this thread, where my position is that the poster who was advertising his auctions on ebay was SPAMming the group. Your position seems to be that it's OK for some SPAM to be posted, as long as you approve of it, but not SPAM of which you approve. That seems a little hypocritical to me. --- --- I don't know what you're trying to say. Is English your second language? --- Now you have lowered yourself to the use childish insults. C'mon John, You can do better that that. How old are you? Yea sure, I don't allways proof read and I'm not the world's best typist but, Fliebend in drei sprachen. --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- In this newsgroup it _is_ SPAM. There are other newsgroups around where his pitch would have been appropriate, but not this one. I didn't see a sign on the door --- the sign says "alt.electronics", not "alt.announce.your.ebay.auctions.here". --- You might have mentioned this to the OP. It may have been more effective. --- You do it your way and I'll do it mine, thank you very much. --- If I had a $50K Storage Scope that I was willing to part with for a few hundred bucks it would be inapropriate to post that fact in this group? That's ridiculous. --- No, it's not. A whore is still a whore whether she gets a hundred dollars or a hundred thousand. --- Who knows, that person may get em for a buck each... --- Really, who cares? Because you don't care you assume the entire world must not. Incredibly self-centered. --- And because you say you do you think everyone should? --- I do. I really would like to see those books end up in the hands of somebody who might learn from them. And there is a pretty good chance that someone like that just might be subscribed to this group. --- Then I have a suggestion for you, since you say you care so much about it. Why not go buy the books and then offer them to anyone here who wants them, for free? --- And I also think your rule of absolutely no mention of the words "for sale" is unrealistic and unenforceable. --- That doesn't make me wrong, does it? --- I have fought on more than one occasion in defense of my country and what it stands for. So, things like capitalism and freedom of speech are pretty high on my list of what is and what is not important. --- And yet, if you had your way, you'd have me shut up because I choose to post in ways of which you don't approve? Go wave your flag somewhere else, hypocrite. --- ONE POST from a guy trying to offer up some electronics books in an electronics forum is_not_ inappropriate and does_not_ warrant an ass chewing. --- That's _your_ opinion, and you're welcome to it. --- However, some guy in a news group trying impose his views of what is and what is not appropriate and to limit another's write to free speech does. --- It's not "write", it's "right" Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. --- The OP was not being Abusive. --- _I_ think he was, and I made that clear, as is my right. --- You sir, take every oppertunity to be abusive. --- Not _every_ opportunity, but I do delight in pricking balloons. --- Makes it difficult to take you seriously. --- So don't... -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- It was an insult People who use insults and name calling in their arguments are insecure and rely on such tactics to cover over their lack of a good argument. They only make fools of themselves and hurt their own cause. Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. Nor Sir, You do have every right to speak your mind. I only thought that you over reacted My point was that I did not belive this gentleman's post rose to the level of SPAM and that he did not deserve such a abrasive response. I am tired of this debate. I find myself wanting to be impolite and disrespectful. I'll will leave that to you. Your very good at it. |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:21:18 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- It was an insult People who use insults and name calling in their arguments are insecure and rely on such tactics to cover over their lack of a good argument. They only make fools of themselves and hurt their own cause. --- Your first post in this thread: "Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books..." Certainly doesn't sound like reasoned criticism to me. It is, in fact an insult bound in sarcasm, which is exactly what you're saying I shouldn't be doing, you hypocrite, and since you started with the insults, as far as I'm concerned, it's open season on you. --- Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. Nor Sir, You do have every right to speak your mind. I only thought that you over reacted --- I see. I have the right to speak my mind as long as I don't overreact, according to you? Whose side were you on in all those battles you fought, anyway? Certainly not mine... --- My point was that I did not belive this gentleman's post rose to the level of SPAM and that he did not deserve such a abrasive response. I am tired of this debate. I find myself wanting to be impolite and disrespectful. I'll will leave that to you. Your very good at it. --- Well, I see you left a parting slap, which _certainly_ isn't a polite thing for someone who professes to be polite to do. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:21:18 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- It was an insult People who use insults and name calling in their arguments are insecure and rely on such tactics to cover over their lack of a good argument. They only make fools of themselves and hurt their own cause. --- Your first post in this thread: "Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books..." Certainly doesn't sound like reasoned criticism to me. It is, in fact an insult bound in sarcasm, which is exactly what you're saying I shouldn't be doing, you hypocrite, and since you started with the insults, as far as I'm concerned, it's open season on you. --- Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. Nor Sir, You do have every right to speak your mind. I only thought that you over reacted --- I see. I have the right to speak my mind as long as I don't overreact, according to you? Whose side were you on in all those battles you fought, anyway? Certainly not mine... --- My point was that I did not belive this gentleman's post rose to the level of SPAM and that he did not deserve such a abrasive response. I am tired of this debate. I find myself wanting to be impolite and disrespectful. I'll will leave that to you. Your very good at it. --- Well, I see you left a parting slap, which _certainly_ isn't a polite thing for someone who professes to be polite to do. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Even a weak attempt to insult anybody's service to there country is beyond reproach. Pathetic. |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:12:50 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:21:18 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message ... --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- It was an insult People who use insults and name calling in their arguments are insecure and rely on such tactics to cover over their lack of a good argument. They only make fools of themselves and hurt their own cause. --- Your first post in this thread: "Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books..." Certainly doesn't sound like reasoned criticism to me. It is, in fact an insult bound in sarcasm, which is exactly what you're saying I shouldn't be doing, you hypocrite, and since you started with the insults, as far as I'm concerned, it's open season on you. --- Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. Nor Sir, You do have every right to speak your mind. I only thought that you over reacted --- I see. I have the right to speak my mind as long as I don't overreact, according to you? Whose side were you on in all those battles you fought, anyway? Certainly not mine... --- My point was that I did not belive this gentleman's post rose to the level of SPAM and that he did not deserve such a abrasive response. I am tired of this debate. I find myself wanting to be impolite and disrespectful. I'll will leave that to you. Your very good at it. --- Well, I see you left a parting slap, which _certainly_ isn't a polite thing for someone who professes to be polite to do. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Even a weak attempt to insult anybody's service to there country is beyond reproach. Pathetic. --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:12:50 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:21:18 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message m... --- I was being serious. The line which I was referring to (the one you snipped) was unintelligible to me, and from your unconventional use of grammar and your many spelling errors I thought that perhaps American English wasn't your native language. --- It was an insult People who use insults and name calling in their arguments are insecure and rely on such tactics to cover over their lack of a good argument. They only make fools of themselves and hurt their own cause. --- Your first post in this thread: "Oh my god! he's is trying to turn old stuff into money and he is talking about it on usegroups. Tie him to a stake and burn him.... Even worse, some young kid interested in electronics might read his post and end up getting a really good deal on some books. We can't have kids reading books, where might that lead? The dam kid might build something. Oh ****! He might grow up and get a job... Oh my god, You better just burn those books..." Certainly doesn't sound like reasoned criticism to me. It is, in fact an insult bound in sarcasm, which is exactly what you're saying I shouldn't be doing, you hypocrite, and since you started with the insults, as far as I'm concerned, it's open season on you. --- Sounds to me like that's what _you're_ trying to do by saying that what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop. Nor Sir, You do have every right to speak your mind. I only thought that you over reacted --- I see. I have the right to speak my mind as long as I don't overreact, according to you? Whose side were you on in all those battles you fought, anyway? Certainly not mine... --- My point was that I did not belive this gentleman's post rose to the level of SPAM and that he did not deserve such a abrasive response. I am tired of this debate. I find myself wanting to be impolite and disrespectful. I'll will leave that to you. Your very good at it. --- Well, I see you left a parting slap, which _certainly_ isn't a polite thing for someone who professes to be polite to do. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer Even a weak attempt to insult anybody's service to there country is beyond reproach. Pathetic. --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? BTW, Apology appreciated. |
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Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:16:17 -0500, John Fields
wrote: --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! --- Oops, _serious_ grammar errors on my part. Do it matter?^) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:16:17 -0500, John Fields wrote: --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! --- Oops, _serious_ grammar errors on my part. Do it matter?^) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --------------- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. Yes, Reprehensible, I'll give you that. The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. We are all self-important, think about it. If someone has a different understanding of a fact or even an incorrect understanding that doesn't make he/she a know-nothing idiot, you like to split hairs John, even a cockroach surely knows something. When you let fly with the insults you are no longer challenging their stance, your loosing control. You do take pleasure in putting others down. If there was no pleasure in it, why do it? What comes around goes around. Life has a weird way of doing that. Perhaps this kid today, with the missing electrolyte, will be in a position to make a decision someday. Your name comes up as a potential contractor for a new design. He **** cans your proposal and you never know why you didn't get the job. Sounds like I'm reaching, I know, but it happens more than you might think. Or the guy with the dam books, maybe he works for Northrop Grumman. Hell, how about me, you have no idea who I am.... Have a good life John, hope it's not to warm in Texas this time of year.. Peace Out! No, it do not matter.... Sorte melhor vez seguinte |
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:24:43 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:16:17 -0500, John Fields wrote: --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! --- Oops, _serious_ grammar errors on my part. Do it matter?^) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --------------- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. Yes, Reprehensible, I'll give you that. The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. We are all self-important, think about it. --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- If someone has a different understanding of a fact or even an incorrect understanding that doesn't make he/she a know-nothing idiot, you like to split hairs John, even a cockroach surely knows something. --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- When you let fly with the insults you are no longer challenging their stance, your loosing control. --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part. That may very well be true for _you_, but it doesn't mean that _I_ have to suffer with that limitation. I see insults as tools (or weapons, if you like) to be used to evoke desired emotional responses from opponents. Anger, primarily, accompanied by the opponent's frustration in not being able to return a superior insult if the received insult was crafted skillfully enough. Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example. --- You do take pleasure in putting others down. If there was no pleasure in it, why do it? --- I take pleasure in being able to stand my ground and defend my position, and in this medium, which is infested with bullies and trolls, the only weapons we have to take them out with is words and the effects they have on their minds. I also take pleasure in banter, just for the sport of it, if it's not insipid. --- What comes around goes around. Life has a weird way of doing that. Perhaps this kid today, with the missing electrolyte, will be in a position to make a decision someday. Your name comes up as a potential contractor for a new design. He **** cans your proposal and you never know why you didn't get the job. Sounds like I'm reaching, I know, but it happens more than you might think. Or the guy with the dam books, maybe he works for Northrop Grumman. Hell, how about me, you have no idea who I am.... --- Nor do I care. I'm not here looking for a job or trying to be politically correct because kissing someone's ass might be expedient for some pecuniary gain downstream, I'm here to help out anyone I can who has a design problem and needs a solution. As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:24:43 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:16:17 -0500, John Fields wrote: --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! --- Oops, _serious_ grammar errors on my part. Do it matter?^) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --------------- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. Yes, Reprehensible, I'll give you that. The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. We are all self-important, think about it. --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- If someone has a different understanding of a fact or even an incorrect understanding that doesn't make he/she a know-nothing idiot, you like to split hairs John, even a cockroach surely knows something. --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- When you let fly with the insults you are no longer challenging their stance, your loosing control. --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part. That may very well be true for _you_, but it doesn't mean that _I_ have to suffer with that limitation. I see insults as tools (or weapons, if you like) to be used to evoke desired emotional responses from opponents. Anger, primarily, accompanied by the opponent's frustration in not being able to return a superior insult if the received insult was crafted skillfully enough. Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example. --- You do take pleasure in putting others down. If there was no pleasure in it, why do it? --- I take pleasure in being able to stand my ground and defend my position, and in this medium, which is infested with bullies and trolls, the only weapons we have to take them out with is words and the effects they have on their minds. I also take pleasure in banter, just for the sport of it, if it's not insipid. --- What comes around goes around. Life has a weird way of doing that. Perhaps this kid today, with the missing electrolyte, will be in a position to make a decision someday. Your name comes up as a potential contractor for a new design. He **** cans your proposal and you never know why you didn't get the job. Sounds like I'm reaching, I know, but it happens more than you might think. Or the guy with the dam books, maybe he works for Northrop Grumman. Hell, how about me, you have no idea who I am.... --- Nor do I care. I'm not here looking for a job or trying to be politically correct because kissing someone's ass might be expedient for some pecuniary gain downstream, I'm here to help out anyone I can who has a design problem and needs a solution. As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer ---------------- --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- I wasn't chastising you, I said, "you like to split hairs John", so I split one too. --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- You're starting to stutter. It could be sign of loosing control.. :^) (Couldn't pass it up) --- Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example ---- No sir, I grinned. --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part --- I meant what I said. ---- As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. ---- Was he? Seriously, I do not know. Electric current can be used to slow or even stop the corrosion. With the absence of an electrolyte and a voltage applied with the correct polarity, would the reaction happen? |
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:18:42 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:24:43 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:16:17 -0500, John Fields wrote: --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! --- Oops, _serious_ grammar errors on my part. Do it matter?^) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --------------- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. Yes, Reprehensible, I'll give you that. The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. We are all self-important, think about it. --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- If someone has a different understanding of a fact or even an incorrect understanding that doesn't make he/she a know-nothing idiot, you like to split hairs John, even a cockroach surely knows something. --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- When you let fly with the insults you are no longer challenging their stance, your loosing control. --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part. That may very well be true for _you_, but it doesn't mean that _I_ have to suffer with that limitation. I see insults as tools (or weapons, if you like) to be used to evoke desired emotional responses from opponents. Anger, primarily, accompanied by the opponent's frustration in not being able to return a superior insult if the received insult was crafted skillfully enough. Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example. --- You do take pleasure in putting others down. If there was no pleasure in it, why do it? --- I take pleasure in being able to stand my ground and defend my position, and in this medium, which is infested with bullies and trolls, the only weapons we have to take them out with is words and the effects they have on their minds. I also take pleasure in banter, just for the sport of it, if it's not insipid. --- What comes around goes around. Life has a weird way of doing that. Perhaps this kid today, with the missing electrolyte, will be in a position to make a decision someday. Your name comes up as a potential contractor for a new design. He **** cans your proposal and you never know why you didn't get the job. Sounds like I'm reaching, I know, but it happens more than you might think. Or the guy with the dam books, maybe he works for Northrop Grumman. Hell, how about me, you have no idea who I am.... --- Nor do I care. I'm not here looking for a job or trying to be politically correct because kissing someone's ass might be expedient for some pecuniary gain downstream, I'm here to help out anyone I can who has a design problem and needs a solution. As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer ---------------- --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- I wasn't chastising you, I said, "you like to split hairs John", so I split one too. --- Not true. You used the hair-splitting comment in a pejorative way and then, unknowingly split a hair, yourself, in order to try to prove your point. Had you known what you were doing, you wouldn't have hoisted yourself on your own pitard. --- --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- You're starting to stutter. It could be sign of loosing control.. :^) (Couldn't pass it up) --- I don't understand what you mean by "stutter". Would you mind explaining? --- --- Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example ---- No sir, I grinned. --- Ah, Then it didn't escape you? --- --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part --- I meant what I said. --- OK, but did you say what you meant? --- ---- As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. ---- Was he? Seriously, I do not know. --- Well, Here's the exchange: "Alexander: But at least ThanX for confirming my statement and not saying its not true without giving a reason as someone else did. You: Your welcome, I thought you deserved a respectful reply..." So _you_ figure it out. Sounds to me like what you were trying to do was stroke your way into his heart by declaring my reply disrespectful. --- Electric current can be used to slow or even stop the corrosion. With the absence of an electrolyte and a voltage applied with the correct polarity, would the reaction happen? --- What "correct polarity"? You obviously don't know what you're talking about, since in the absence of an electrolyte, corrosion wouldn't be possible. To elaborate on your question, however, if you had two dissimilar metals in contact with each other and you passed current through their junction, first one way and then the other, what would happen at the junction in each instance? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:18:42 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:24:43 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message m... On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 19:16:17 -0500, John Fields wrote: --- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. In any case, I wasn't insulting your service and I apologize if you took it that way. What I was trying to do was make the point that if you fought for free speech and then want to deny me mine because you don't like the way I write, you're on the same track as those you fought against. No Sir, You have an absolute right to speak you mind, as I said before. However, we must all keep in mind that free speech comes with a responsibilty. I don't care if you stop or if you continue, I only wish you would choose your words with a little respect. --- I have nothing but contempt for SPAMmers and, hopefully, my dialogue will indicate that I feel that they should all be in their graves. To belabor a point, the poster selling books wasn't interested in helping anyone out but himself. Was there a student discount offered? No. Was there a newbie discount offered? No. Clearly, all he was interested in was getting rid of some stock he acquired for next to nothing for something more than that. --- It certainly seems that you are not an uneducated man. Why do you take such pleasure in putting others down? --- Ah, the crux of the matter! The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. BTW, Apology appreciated. --- My pleasure! --- Oops, _serious_ grammar errors on my part. Do it matter?^) -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --------------- Now _that's_ funny! I think what you meant to say was "reprehensible" instead of "beyond reproach". Think about it. Yes, Reprehensible, I'll give you that. The fact is, I don't, but what rankles me is that when self-important, know-nothing idiots start trying to fool everyone into believing that their way is the right way and they can't back it up with something other than opinion, then I like to challenge that stance. We are all self-important, think about it. --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- If someone has a different understanding of a fact or even an incorrect understanding that doesn't make he/she a know-nothing idiot, you like to split hairs John, even a cockroach surely knows something. --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- When you let fly with the insults you are no longer challenging their stance, your loosing control. --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part. That may very well be true for _you_, but it doesn't mean that _I_ have to suffer with that limitation. I see insults as tools (or weapons, if you like) to be used to evoke desired emotional responses from opponents. Anger, primarily, accompanied by the opponent's frustration in not being able to return a superior insult if the received insult was crafted skillfully enough. Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example. --- You do take pleasure in putting others down. If there was no pleasure in it, why do it? --- I take pleasure in being able to stand my ground and defend my position, and in this medium, which is infested with bullies and trolls, the only weapons we have to take them out with is words and the effects they have on their minds. I also take pleasure in banter, just for the sport of it, if it's not insipid. --- What comes around goes around. Life has a weird way of doing that. Perhaps this kid today, with the missing electrolyte, will be in a position to make a decision someday. Your name comes up as a potential contractor for a new design. He **** cans your proposal and you never know why you didn't get the job. Sounds like I'm reaching, I know, but it happens more than you might think. Or the guy with the dam books, maybe he works for Northrop Grumman. Hell, how about me, you have no idea who I am.... --- Nor do I care. I'm not here looking for a job or trying to be politically correct because kissing someone's ass might be expedient for some pecuniary gain downstream, I'm here to help out anyone I can who has a design problem and needs a solution. As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer ---------------- --- LOL, in one breath you chastise me for splitting hairs and then you do the same thing (split hairs) with your cockroach example. Shouldn't it be tit for tat? --- I wasn't chastising you, I said, "you like to split hairs John", so I split one too. --- Not true. You used the hair-splitting comment in a pejorative way and then, unknowingly split a hair, yourself, in order to try to prove your point. Had you known what you were doing, you wouldn't have hoisted yourself on your own pitard. --- --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- You're starting to stutter. It could be sign of loosing control.. :^) (Couldn't pass it up) --- I don't understand what you mean by "stutter". Would you mind explaining? --- --- Did you feel a little twinge when you read the part about "suffering with that limitation"? That's how it works, and normally it would have been issued If I felt I had been challenged by your taking the position that I don't know what I'm doing. In this instance, though, it was just an example ---- No sir, I grinned. --- Ah, Then it didn't escape you? --- --- I suspect that what you're saying is that if _you_ let an insult fly that would indicate a loss of control on your part --- I meant what I said. --- OK, but did you say what you meant? --- ---- As far as that electrolyte thing goes, all that happened was that he got ****ed because I told him he was wrong and left it for him to find out why. I do the asshole a favor, and he gets ****ed because I didn't do him a big enough favor? **** him. ---- Was he? Seriously, I do not know. --- Well, Here's the exchange: "Alexander: But at least ThanX for confirming my statement and not saying its not true without giving a reason as someone else did. You: Your welcome, I thought you deserved a respectful reply..." So _you_ figure it out. Sounds to me like what you were trying to do was stroke your way into his heart by declaring my reply disrespectful. --- Electric current can be used to slow or even stop the corrosion. With the absence of an electrolyte and a voltage applied with the correct polarity, would the reaction happen? --- What "correct polarity"? You obviously don't know what you're talking about, since in the absence of an electrolyte, corrosion wouldn't be possible. To elaborate on your question, however, if you had two dissimilar metals in contact with each other and you passed current through their junction, first one way and then the other, what would happen at the junction in each instance? -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer ------ --- Not true. You used the hair-splitting comment in a pejorative way and then, unknowingly split a hair, yourself, in order to try to prove your point. --- Not true. The hair was split with knowingly. Had you known what you were doing, you wouldn't have hoisted yourself on your own pitard. My own what? I don't understand what you mean by "stutter". Would you mind explaining? To speak or utter with a spasmodic repetition or prolongation of sounds. --- OK, but did you say what you meant? --- Yes sir. Sounds to me like what you were trying to do was stroke your way into his heart by declaring my reply disrespectful No sir, I do not need to be in his heart. I was trying to respond in a respectful manner. I truly thought he deserved it. I did think you where being short with him. At the time we where debating your dressing down of the bookseller. I did, however, preface my response with "If I recall correctly", as to say I am not certain if my answer is correct, and it was not, as you most eloquently pointed out to me in the preceding comments, for which I acknowledged your correction. To elaborate on your question, however, if you had two dissimilar metals in contact with each other and you passed current through their junction, first one way and then the other, what would happen at the junction in each instance? How are these two metals joined? |
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:33:45 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . --- Not true. You used the hair-splitting comment in a pejorative way and then, unknowingly split a hair, yourself, in order to try to prove your point. --- Not true. The hair was split with knowingly. --- Then you considered my hair-splitting to be OK and your comment about it was for what purpose? --- Had you known what you were doing, you wouldn't have hoisted yourself on your own pitard. My own what? --- Sorry, "petard" --- I don't understand what you mean by "stutter". Would you mind explaining? To speak or utter with a spasmodic repetition or prolongation of sounds. --- Yes. I'm aware of the definition of the word. What I was asking for was an explanation of your use of it in the context of the statement which I made. --- --- OK, but did you say what you meant? --- Yes sir. Sounds to me like what you were trying to do was stroke your way into his heart by declaring my reply disrespectful No sir, I do not need to be in his heart. I was trying to respond in a respectful manner. I truly thought he deserved it. I did think you where being short with him. At the time we where debating your dressing down of the bookseller. --- It's not "where", it's "were". Other than perhaps because of the necessity to limit time to subject "a" in order to devote more of it to subject "b", why do you you think the two discussions were related? --- I did, however, preface my response with "If I recall correctly", as to say I am not certain if my answer is correct, and it was not, as you most eloquently pointed out to me in the preceding comments, for which I acknowledged your correction. --- OK, but what does that have to do with this? --- To elaborate on your question, however, if you had two dissimilar metals in contact with each other and you passed current through their junction, first one way and then the other, what would happen at the junction in each instance? How are these two metals joined? --- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and with lines normal to the circles which define their planes of contact as orthogonal. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 18:27:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote: --- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and with lines normal to the circles which define their planes of contact as orthogonal. Oops... Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and are oriented such that axial lines which are drawn normal to the plane of the incident circle will be orthogonal to lines drawn normal to the plane of the opposing tangential circle. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:33:45 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. --- Not true. You used the hair-splitting comment in a pejorative way and then, unknowingly split a hair, yourself, in order to try to prove your point. --- Not true. The hair was split with knowingly. --- Then you considered my hair-splitting to be OK and your comment about it was for what purpose? --- Had you known what you were doing, you wouldn't have hoisted yourself on your own pitard. My own what? --- Sorry, "petard" --- I don't understand what you mean by "stutter". Would you mind explaining? To speak or utter with a spasmodic repetition or prolongation of sounds. --- Yes. I'm aware of the definition of the word. What I was asking for was an explanation of your use of it in the context of the statement which I made. --- --- OK, but did you say what you meant? --- Yes sir. Sounds to me like what you were trying to do was stroke your way into his heart by declaring my reply disrespectful No sir, I do not need to be in his heart. I was trying to respond in a respectful manner. I truly thought he deserved it. I did think you where being short with him. At the time we where debating your dressing down of the bookseller. --- It's not "where", it's "were". Other than perhaps because of the necessity to limit time to subject "a" in order to devote more of it to subject "b", why do you you think the two discussions were related? --- I did, however, preface my response with "If I recall correctly", as to say I am not certain if my answer is correct, and it was not, as you most eloquently pointed out to me in the preceding comments, for which I acknowledged your correction. --- OK, but what does that have to do with this? --- To elaborate on your question, however, if you had two dissimilar metals in contact with each other and you passed current through their junction, first one way and then the other, what would happen at the junction in each instance? How are these two metals joined? --- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and with lines normal to the circles which define their planes of contact as orthogonal. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer --- Yes. I'm aware of the definition of the word. What I was asking for was an explanation of your use of it in the context of the statement which I made. --- I will repost the exchange that has mysteriously gone missing. --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- You're starting to stutter. It could be sign of loosing control.. :^) (Couldn't pass it up) John, this is something I normally would not do but since you enjoy pointing out every typo and spelling error I make I thought you might see the humor. --- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and with lines normal to the circles which define their planes of contact as orthogonal. -- I wasn't asking about the geometry but how the two where fastened to one and other. |
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:32:37 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE"
wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:33:45 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: I will repost the exchange that has mysteriously gone missing. --- There's no mystery about it, you excised it. I don't know whether it was intentional or not but your 'style' seems to tend to clip for obfuscation. I'll be looking forward to your repost --- --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- You're starting to stutter. It could be sign of loosing control.. :^) (Couldn't pass it up) John, this is something I normally would not do but since you enjoy pointing out every typo and spelling error I make I thought you might see the humor. --- Well, not _every_ one... To do that would take more time than I'm willing to invest in this thread, But but I see the humor, thanks. :-) --- --- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and with lines normal to the circles which define their planes of contact as orthogonal. -- I wasn't asking about the geometry but how the two where fastened to one and other. --- One another? I doesn't matter much as long as they're insulated from each other except at the point of contact. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |
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"John Fields" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:32:37 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: "John Fields" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 16:33:45 -0500, "DBLEXPOSURE" wrote: I will repost the exchange that has mysteriously gone missing. --- There's no mystery about it, you excised it. I don't know whether it was intentional or not but your 'style' seems to tend to clip for obfuscation. I'll be looking forward to your repost --- --- I don't believe that's true. Some people don't even consider themselves worthwhile, let alone important, but but the sense I was trying to convey was one of exaggerated importance, or unwarranted self-importance, if you will. But I understand your point. --- You're starting to stutter. It could be sign of loosing control.. :^) (Couldn't pass it up) John, this is something I normally would not do but since you enjoy pointing out every typo and spelling error I make I thought you might see the humor. --- Well, not _every_ one... To do that would take more time than I'm willing to invest in this thread, But but I see the humor, thanks. :-) --- --- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and with lines normal to the circles which define their planes of contact as orthogonal. -- I wasn't asking about the geometry but how the two where fastened to one and other. --- One another? I doesn't matter much as long as they're insulated from each other except at the point of contact. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer ----------- --- One another? I doesn't matter much as long as they're insulated from each other except at the point of contact. --- We all matter John, Don't be so hard on yourself  (passive-aggressive)--- Let's say they're right circular cylinders with circumferences which touch, tangentially, and are oriented such that axial lines which are drawn normal to the plane of the incident circle will be orthogonal to lines drawn normal to the plane of the opposing tangential circle. --- A butt splice? Whenever electrical current flows through two dissimilar conductors the Peltier effect occurs. Depending on the direction of current flow, the junction of the two conductors will either absorb or release heat, the basis for solid-state heat pumps. In the reverse, without an electrical current applied, and the joint is heated a voltage will be developed across the open ends of the wires. This is called the Seedbeck effect. I would also imagine, in reference to the Peltier effect, that current in the circuit would be slightly different depending on which direction the voltage is applied. This point I am not certain of, perhaps you could elaborate. And to be honest, I didn't pull any of this out of my ass. I was aware off the effect but for the life of me could not remember what it was called. The opportunity to do a little research appreciated. |
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