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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:30:42 -0800, DaveC wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:06:53 -0800, John Fields wrote (in article ): OK, I posted a circuit for you on abse. If you need a circuit description let me know and I'll post one over there. John, I'm having trouble downloading it. The file is 1K, which looks suspiciously small. Can you retrieve it?... it might just be my newsreader. --- I can retrieve it. Send me your email address and I'll email you the schematic. -- John Fields |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 22:30:42 -0800, DaveC wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:06:53 -0800, John Fields wrote (in article ): OK, I posted a circuit for you on abse. If you need a circuit description let me know and I'll post one over there. John, I'm having trouble downloading it. The file is 1K, which looks suspiciously small. Can you retrieve it?... it might just be my newsreader. 1K doesn't seem exceedingly small for a simple PDF - but I'm using Pan, which doesn't interpret inline PDFs either; this could be a configuration setting I haven't got to yet. So, yeah, it's probably the newsreader. Cheers! Rich |
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DaveC wrote:
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:07:32 -0800, DaveC wrote (in article et): Thanks for all the great ideas. All of this makes my (volunteer) job much easier. A new twist to the challenge: The output needs to be a one-shot, momentary-close event. In other words, 5 minutes after power fails, the contacts need to close and open again. This alerts the alarm to the power out-condition, and clears the alarm sense line for another event to be reported. Ideas? Two relays, two capacitors, one resistor. Refer to the circuit mentioned in my post above - a 5.5 super cap and RLY-639 or RLY-405. When power drops, the relay stays energized for ~4 minutes, then drops. Use one of the closed points on the first relay to complete the circuit to a second relay from a charged cap. One point of the second relay is the output. Another point of the second relay to switch a low value resistor across the cap that energizes the second relay. Here's the circuit: (the output point is not shown) A +-----0 \---relay2coil---+ | R1P(nc) | +---/\/\/\---o \--+ | | R1 R2P | | Cap2 | | | | | B +-----------------+------+ + 5 volts is supplied to point A, ground is at point B. R1P is the normally closed point of the relay mentioned in my earlier post and shown in the diagram below. R2P is one of the normally open points of relay 2. The other normally open point of relay 2 is the output you need. Here's the ~4 minute delay circuit: A -----+---relaycoil1----+ | | SuperCap | | | B -----+-----------------+ The super cap is a 1 farad 5.5 volt cap and the relay is RLY-639, both specified in the earlier post, from Allelectronics. Use a regulated 5 volt supply with series diode protection, or a regulated 6 volt supply with two 1N4001 diodes in series to produce the supply to points A and B. The diode protection prevents discharge of the capacitors back into the supply. Cap2 does not need to be a super cap. On an untested guess, I'd say a 470 uf cap with a second RLY-639 would work. A 100 ohm 1 watt resistor will work for R1 with that cap. Let me know if you want me to test it - I have the parts. Ed |
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