Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.


I might have opted for such a mechanical solution 20 years ago.

Haven't you got an old PC with a sound card?

Graham.

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:22:11 +0100, "Graham"
wrote:

I might have opted for such a mechanical solution 20 years ago.

Haven't you got an old PC with a sound card?

Probably less to go wrong with a tape deck!

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:00:33 +0100, "N Cook"
wrote:

Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.

If the deck has a speed adjustment pot I'd also slow the thing down
slightly, to give a "batteries going flat" feel to the music.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?

Either some sort of rave music or someone along the lines of Des
O'Connor..

sPoNiX

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?



I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
etc etc

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?



I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
I'm a Barbie girl in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic
etc etc

"N Cook" wrote:

}Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
}setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
}divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
}on hold" but leaving the caller
}in limbo until he cancels - but make him
}as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.
}
}1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
}and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
}and thinner band.

Why not use a cheap cd player and burn your own obnoxius cd?

}2) What choice of music would be most annoying
}to the age-group of junk callers ?

Anything by Yoko Ono? OTOH, for something truly annoying, might
I recommend what a local comedian came up with: Van Halen's "Eruption",
performed on bagpipes.

Stan.

I would never go to all that trouble. When they start their jargon type
introduction, the very first question I ask is, "What are you trying to
sell me?". This gets them on the edge. Then the person starts rambling
on some "you-no-what" at me, and I let them go on for a bit. Then I tell
them that I am not really interested, and I think they should get a
better job. I then hang up the phone.

What is annoying, is that they always call at the most inconvenient
hours. It is usually when the family is sitting down for supper. I
sometimes tell them that I am eating my supper, and they should call
back in about an hour. When I see it is the same caller showing on my
caller ID box, I simply pick up the phone and tell them that I am not
interested, then I abruptly hang up.

Usually this type of behaviour keeps them at bay.

--

Jerry G.
======

"N Cook" wrote in message
...
Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse

N Cook wrote:
Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?

Sanity Check.
How many times have you been called by the SAME person?
Annoying someone who won't be calling you again doesn't help you at all.
Accidentally annoying a real customer can hurt you.
Put your thinking resources into something that has a return
on investment.
mike


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"N Cook" wrote in message
...
| Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
| setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
| divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
| on hold" but leaving the caller
| in limbo until he cancels - but make him
| as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

In the USA you can buy a $10 gadget to attach to the phone. You push a
button and hang up and the device says, "I'm sorry, this number does not
accept that type of call. Please accept this as your notice to put this
number on your 'do not call' list". Then it repeats the message and hangs
up. I have one on each phone and they work quite well.

However for your purposes, use a cheap CD player and record a long message
along the lines of, "Have you been saved? I say again, brothers and sisters,
have you been saved? Have you accepted Jesus as your personal saviour?" I'm
sure you must be able to find this somewhere on radio - or the net!

N

"N Cook" wrote in message
...
Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse



Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 04:39:39 GMT, "James Sweet"
wrote:


"N Cook" wrote in message
...
Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying
to the age-group of junk callers ?

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse



Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.

NAH! Lets have some fun.
Get a copy of that old tune by Cheech and Chong "Earache my Eye" and
put that on the loop. also run the gain up during record until it
really distorts.
That'll get rid of them. And of course if you have call back option on
your phone you can always ring 'em back and pick up where it left off
during their hang up.
THAT should get you removed from their list altogether.

"none" wrote in message
...

| NAH! Lets have some fun.
| Get a copy of that old tune by Cheech and Chong "Earache my Eye" and
| put that on the loop. also run the gain up during record until it
| really distorts.

"They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha Ha", from Napoleon XIV.

....
and
they're coming to take me away ha ha
they're coming to take me away ho ho hee hee ha ha
to the funny farm
where life is beautiful all the time
and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
and they're coming to take me away ha ha
to the happy home
with trees and flowers and chirping birds
and basketweavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
and they're coming to take me away ha haaaaaaa...

N

"Stan" wrote in message
...
"N Cook" wrote:

}Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
}setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
}divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
}on hold" but leaving the caller
}in limbo until he cancels - but make him
}as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.
}
}1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel
}and replace the capstan drive band with a longer
}and thinner band.

Why not use a cheap cd player and burn your own obnoxius cd?

}2) What choice of music would be most annoying
}to the age-group of junk callers ?

Anything by Yoko Ono? OTOH, for something truly annoying, might
I recommend what a local comedian came up with: Van Halen's "Eruption",
performed on bagpipes.

Stan.

I like the idea of bagpipe music.
Perhaps Vivaldi "Four Seasons" on bagpipes with plenty of wow and flutter
for extra edge.

Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0, they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0, they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.


That's one of the best one's I have heard about!!

H. R. (Bob) Hofmann

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0, they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.


That's one of the best ones I have heard about!!

H. R. (Bob) Hofmann

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0, they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.


That's one of the best ones I have heard about!!

H. R. (Bob) Hofmann

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0, they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.


That's one of the best ones I have heard about!!

H. R. (Bob) Hofmann

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated
it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0,
they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not
necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.



The meanest ( fraudulent ) I've heard of is using a continuous tape of the
ringing tone used on a premium rate line.

Quoting none ], that posted to sci.electronics.repair on
Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:30:47 -0500:


NAH! Lets have some fun.
Get a copy of that old tune by Cheech and Chong "Earache my Eye" and
put that on the loop. also run the gain up during record until it
really distorts.
That'll get rid of them. And of course if you have call back option on
your phone you can always ring 'em back and pick up where it left off
during their hang up.
THAT should get you removed from their list altogether.

I would use modem tones (the sounds that dial-up connections make).

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On 15 Oct 2004 07:22:11 -0700, (H. R. Bob Hofmann)
wrote:

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0, they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.


That's one of the best one's I have heard about!!

H. R. (Bob) Hofmann

Too bad the cold callers aren't doing the dialing. It's all computer
run and when the callee answers, the call is connected to a sales
droid.

wrote in message
...

| Too bad the cold callers aren't doing the dialing. It's all computer
| run and when the callee answers, the call is connected to a sales
| droid.

Like I say, feed them "Jesus Saves"

N

wrote in message
...
On 15 Oct 2004 07:22:11 -0700, (H. R. Bob Hofmann)
wrote:

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...
Snip
Just get a continuous loop tape for an old answering machine, they
still
sell them, 60 seconds is a common size and they'll hang up before
then
anyway. Load it up with opera music or something.



I used to think I was a clever guy by having humorous outgoing messages
on
my answering machine. This was before I grew up a bit.
Anyway, one of the better ones was to use the actual telco announcement
that, "we're sorry, but you must first dial a 1 or a 0 ...." and
repeated it
several times before the beep. When the caller then dialed the 1 or 0,
they
would then get the real telco message "we're sorry, but it is not
necessary
to dial a 1 or 0....."

I was quite proud of myself for that one....

Mark Z.


That's one of the best one's I have heard about!!

H. R. (Bob) Hofmann

Too bad the cold callers aren't doing the dialing. It's all computer
run and when the callee answers, the call is connected to a sales
droid.

Usually though they'll automatically detect the disconnected tone and remove
the number from their list, however now there's that do not call list so I
rarely get any sales calls at all anymore, I do however get those damn
political ones still, if they hadn't excluded politicians and charities
there wouldn't have been that controversy with the law in the first place. I
wish politicians would understand this simple fact, call my house and I'm
that much *less* likely to vote for you.

Kibo informs me that "N Cook" stated
that:

Someone with a small business asked me for advice on
setting up a tape-loop player for his receptionist to
divert to when junk callers ring in. Saying "putting you
on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him
as uncomfortable as possible while hanging on.

I think you'd get better results with an AM radio tuned halfway between
a fundy-Christian station & one of those low-budget Top-40 stations with
the annoying, cheap-ass commercials, & with the volume turned up so loud
that it's distorting.

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\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

If you can find it get the local telco's frequency sweep number then
forward their call to it.


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:00:33 +0100, N Cook wrote:

Someone with a small business asked me for advice on setting up a
tape-loop player for his receptionist to divert to when junk callers ring
in. Saying "putting you on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him as uncomfortable as possible
while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel and replace the
capstan drive band with a longer and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying to the age-group of junk
callers ?

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse

As I've gotten older I've found that my BTL, (bull**** tolerance
level) has decreased inversely. I usually try to be cordial but if
need be I have no problem telling them where to get off. Ask them
where the party is and if they're bringing the beer. I especially love
the ones who call and ask for "the owner". I usually tell them that we
don't have one. Or Leona is not here. Try that some time and note the
kind of response you'll get. How about "courtesy calls". Anyone get
one of those lately? We tell them sorry but we don't accept Courtesy
calls. Some of these friggin "robots" are not even fazed by any of
this. Many are still blabbering on as I'm returning the handset to its
proper resting place. Hey we all have to work but my work doesn't
annoy people.
Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.
Me wrote in message ...
If you can find it get the local telco's frequency sweep number then
forward their call to it.


On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:00:33 +0100, N Cook wrote:

Someone with a small business asked me for advice on setting up a
tape-loop player for his receptionist to divert to when junk callers ring
in. Saying "putting you on hold" but leaving the caller
in limbo until he cancels - but make him as uncomfortable as possible
while hanging on.

1) My idea is to cut a small flat on the pinch wheel and replace the
capstan drive band with a longer and thinner band.

2) What choice of music would be most annoying to the age-group of junk
callers ?

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse