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I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover.
The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek |
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On 06/10/2015 14:54, amdx wrote:
I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Sounds like RTV Silicone. That's what I use for heavier components subject to vibration. eg... http://uk.farnell.com/dow-corning/31...90ml/dp/537007 Cheers -- Syd |
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 08:54:27 -0500, amdx wrote:
I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? A little hot melt? |
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 08:54:27 -0500, amdx Gave us:
I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Hot melt |
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On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote:
I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek |
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:10:51 -0500, amdx Gave us:
On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote: I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek It is all over your synapses and holding your eyelids shut. |
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On 10/6/2015 4:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:10:51 -0500, amdx Gave us: On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote: I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek It is all over your synapses and holding your eyelids shut. Expectations. I was looking for the orange power cord. It was in a bookcase behind other items, in a bag. I couldn't see the orange cord through the bag. In other words, it was my wife's fault! Mikek :-) |
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http://www.amazon.com/Sashco-13013-S.../dp/B0012DIUYW
Lexel Adhesive Caulk read the fine print. can use on polycarbonate as I did, so most anything it sticks to and remains slightly flexible. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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In sci.electronics.repair, on Tue, 06 Oct 2015 23:07:03 -0700, OldGuy
wrote: http://www.amazon.com/Sashco-13013-S.../dp/B0012DIUYW Lexel Adhesive Caulk read the fine print. can use on polycarbonate as I did, so most anything it sticks to and remains slightly flexible. I bought a gun-sized tuber for the bathtub, etc. but havenn't used it yet. |
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 17:22:58 -0500, amdx Gave us:
snip Expectations. I was looking for the orange power cord. It was in a bookcase behind other items, in a bag. I couldn't see the orange cord through the bag. In other words, it was my wife's fault! Mikek :-) Now, it appears that you are very lucky that she doesn't read Usenet news group posts. |
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On Tue, 06 Oct 2015 23:07:03 -0700, OldGuy Gave
us: http://www.amazon.com/Sashco-13013-S.../dp/B0012DIUYW Lexel Adhesive Caulk read the fine print. can use on polycarbonate as I did, so most anything it sticks to and remains slightly flexible. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- What does the chinese use on SMPS inductors, caps, etc.? I mean I have seen RTV and hot melt, but there are some that use some yellowish "caulk" type stuff that is a bit more turgid (for lack of a better term). |
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On 10/6/2015 5:22 PM, amdx wrote:
On 10/6/2015 4:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:10:51 -0500, amdx Gave us: On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote: I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek It is all over your synapses and holding your eyelids shut. Expectations. I was looking for the orange power cord. It was in a bookcase behind other items, in a bag. I couldn't see the orange cord through the bag. In other words, it was my wife's fault! Mikek :-) The caps have been replaced, the speakers work. I think! This a 4 way speaker with the super tweeter crossover frequency at 12kHz. I can't hear past 11kHz. I plan on selling these speakers, so I want to verify they do operate. I did verify operation out of the cabinet driving the super tweeters with a signal generator. I need to hook my sig gen to my amp and listen to the super tweeter with a mic and scope while in the cabinet. Where is teenager when you need one? Mikek |
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:49:45 -0500, amdx wrote:
On 10/6/2015 5:22 PM, amdx wrote: On 10/6/2015 4:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:10:51 -0500, amdx Gave us: On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote: I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek It is all over your synapses and holding your eyelids shut. Expectations. I was looking for the orange power cord. It was in a bookcase behind other items, in a bag. I couldn't see the orange cord through the bag. In other words, it was my wife's fault! Mikek :-) The caps have been replaced, the speakers work. I think! This a 4 way speaker with the super tweeter crossover frequency at 12kHz. I can't hear past 11kHz. I plan on selling these speakers, so I want to verify they do operate. I did verify operation out of the cabinet driving the super tweeters with a signal generator. I need to hook my sig gen to my amp and listen to the super tweeter with a mic and scope while in the cabinet. You might try an SPL meter, or perhaps your wife hasn't read this thread and will help? ;-) You might try measuring the impedance of the speaker assembly across the audio band, too. You should be able to see the crossover and tweeter. Where is teenager when you need one? Save them for setting clocks. ;-) |
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:49:45 -0500, amdx Gave us:
On 10/6/2015 5:22 PM, amdx wrote: On 10/6/2015 4:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:10:51 -0500, amdx Gave us: On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote: I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek It is all over your synapses and holding your eyelids shut. Expectations. I was looking for the orange power cord. It was in a bookcase behind other items, in a bag. I couldn't see the orange cord through the bag. In other words, it was my wife's fault! Mikek :-) The caps have been replaced, the speakers work. I think! This a 4 way speaker with the super tweeter crossover frequency at 12kHz. I can't hear past 11kHz. I plan on selling these speakers, so I want to verify they do operate. I did verify operation out of the cabinet driving the super tweeters with a signal generator. I need to hook my sig gen to my amp and listen to the super tweeter with a mic and scope while in the cabinet. Where is teenager when you need one? Mikek Feed the amp with the sig gen to spot the crossover points. Drive with no more than 150mV |
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On 10/7/2015 12:05 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:49:45 -0500, amdx Gave us: On 10/6/2015 5:22 PM, amdx wrote: On 10/6/2015 4:39 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:10:51 -0500, amdx Gave us: On 10/6/2015 8:54 AM, amdx wrote: I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Thanks Guys, A 10 minute search and a phone call to the wife, I just had to dig deeper into where I thought the hot glue was. Mikek It is all over your synapses and holding your eyelids shut. Expectations. I was looking for the orange power cord. It was in a bookcase behind other items, in a bag. I couldn't see the orange cord through the bag. In other words, it was my wife's fault! Mikek :-) The caps have been replaced, the speakers work. I think! This a 4 way speaker with the super tweeter crossover frequency at 12kHz. I can't hear past 11kHz. I plan on selling these speakers, so I want to verify they do operate. I did verify operation out of the cabinet driving the super tweeters with a signal generator. I need to hook my sig gen to my amp and listen to the super tweeter with a mic and scope while in the cabinet. Where is teenager when you need one? Mikek Feed the amp with the sig gen to spot the crossover points. Drive with no more than 150mV Why such a low level? I seem to recall driving the Super tweeter with about 1V to hear 11 kHz out of it. (out of cabinet) Mikek |
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 16:27:24 -0500, amdx Gave us:
On 10/7/2015 12:05 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote: snip Feed the amp with the sig gen to spot the crossover points. Drive with no more than 150mV Why such a low level? I seem to recall driving the Super tweeter with about 1V to hear 11 kHz out of it. (out of cabinet) Mikek The amplifier input, you big dummy. |
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On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 9:54:37 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
I'm replacing a couple of capacitors in speaker crossover. The parts have a glue that holds them tight to the PCB, the glue is still a little bit rubbery after 33 years. (Pioneer HPM-700) What can I use that will do the same job, without solvent damage to the electronic parts? Mikek Lexel lives on the top of RV's, but is used for gluing tupper ware together...that is there should be a hard solvent process in there...see the MSDS. here's Allied: http://www.alliedelec.com/chemicals-adhesives/ |
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