Bought a Friedrich dehumidifier in 2005. It stopped working less than 2
years later. Problem was with the compressor. Got them to give me a
replacement because the parts were no longer available. Replacement was an
Amana. This one lasted a couple of months less than 2 years.

Keep in mind that I have only use these dehumidifiers generally from the end
of May to end of Sept., and I only need the humidity reduced by 10 or 15% at
the most. I usually have them shut off for 6 or 7 hours per day and, for
the rest of the day, I have turned on, but set to a level that would reduce
the humidity by around 15% at the most. This year, I hadn't tried using the
dehumidifier until today, when I found out it isn't working correctly.

On this Amana unit, the bottom half of the case feels warm, since it houses
the compressor, and I can hear the compressor humming, but the fan is
blowing cool air. And no, the coils do not appear to need cleaning. (yes,
I did open up the case and look). When running, the unit is blowing cool
air instead of warm air and the case of the unit is sweating on one side as
if only the right half of the coils (when facing the unit from the front)
are cooling down. When I had the case open, the right half of the coils
felt a lot cooler to the touch than the left half (when facing the unit from
the front).

I'd probably get stuck with diagnostics and labor to have this fixed. It
might not be worth it as opposed to getting a new one.

Does anyone make a dehumidifier that actually lasts longer than 2 years? If
so, please let me know what brands will last longer. Should I get an
extended warranty this time?

Thanks,

J.

wrote:

Bought a Friedrich dehumidifier in 2005. It stopped working less than 2
years later. Problem was with the compressor. Got them to give me a
replacement because the parts were no longer available. Replacement was
an Amana. This one lasted a couple of months less than 2 years.

Keep in mind that I have only use these dehumidifiers generally from the
end of May to end of Sept., and I only need the humidity reduced by 10
or 15% at the most. I usually have them shut off for 6 or 7 hours per
day and, for the rest of the day, I have turned on, but set to a level
that would reduce the humidity by around 15% at the most. This year, I
hadn't tried using the dehumidifier until today, when I found out it
isn't working correctly.

On this Amana unit, the bottom half of the case feels warm, since it
houses the compressor, and I can hear the compressor humming, but the
fan is blowing cool air. And no, the coils do not appear to need
cleaning. (yes, I did open up the case and look). When running, the
unit is blowing cool air instead of warm air and the case of the unit is
sweating on one side as if only the right half of the coils (when facing
the unit from the front) are cooling down. When I had the case open,
the right half of the coils felt a lot cooler to the touch than the left
half (when facing the unit from the front).

I'd probably get stuck with diagnostics and labor to have this fixed.
It might not be worth it as opposed to getting a new one.

Does anyone make a dehumidifier that actually lasts longer than 2
years? If so, please let me know what brands will last longer. Should
I get an extended warranty this time?

Thanks,

J.
Better check your AC voltage level when they are operating. Sounds like
you have insufficient voltage and is causing the compressor to lag and
there for running hot.. Also uses more energy that way, higher cost of
operation.

About a year ago I considered getting a dehumidifier for the garage. I
searched the Web for consumer reviews, and the consensus was that, as with
toasters, all brands and models are junk -- particularly those from China,
which covers a lot of territory.

I decided not to purchase any.

How do I check the voltage level during operation? Do I connect a
multimeter to the 2nd free socket in the outlet that the unit is plugged
into? Or is it sufficient to check the voltage on the outlet when nothing
is plugged in.

J.
Better check your AC voltage level when they are operating. Sounds like
you have insufficient voltage and is causing the compressor to lag and
there for running hot.. Also uses more energy that way, higher cost of
operation.

On Jun 3, 9:05*pm, "
wrote:
How do I check the voltage level during operation? * Do I connect a
multimeter to the 2nd free socket in the outlet that the unit is plugged
into? *Or is it sufficient to check the voltage on the outlet when nothing
is plugged in.



J.
Better check your AC voltage level when they are operating. Sounds like
you have insufficient voltage and is causing the compressor to lag and
there for running hot.. Also uses more energy that way, higher cost of
operation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes - Check the other outlet of the pair when it is running, that is
when there is a load on the circuit. That does assume both outlets
are on the same feeder, which is the normal case unless there is
special wiring for a non-standard load. Voltage when not running is
almost meaningless, but check that it is between 115 and 125 volts no
load to ensure that the multimeter is working reasonably accurately.

On Jun 3, 9:08*pm, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote:
About a year ago I considered getting a dehumidifier for the garage. I
searched the Web for consumer reviews, and the consensus was that, as with
toasters, all brands and models are junk -- particularly those from China,
which covers a lot of territory.

I decided not to purchase any.

most of the consumer ones are made by LG these days, you'll get to
recognize them under different brand names if you do some shopping.
they have a high death rate, but work fine until then. so...... buy a
factory refurbished one for half price (i got mine from some place in
NJ i found on the internet; the site says LG but the brandname you get
might be different); then get a "home warranty" type thing from sears
for $35 a year for the dehimidifier. i get my $35 worth in parts every
year, and it's cheaper than replacing the whole thing every two years,
as you say.

even works if you buy the original item full price, if you have to.

Meat Plow writes:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:14:15 GMT, "
wrote:

Bought a Friedrich dehumidifier in 2005. It stopped working less than 2
years later. Problem was with the compressor. Got them to give me a
replacement because the parts were no longer available. Replacement was an
Amana. This one lasted a couple of months less than 2 years.

Keep in mind that I have only use these dehumidifiers generally from the end
of May to end of Sept., and I only need the humidity reduced by 10 or 15% at
the most. I usually have them shut off for 6 or 7 hours per day and, for
the rest of the day, I have turned on, but set to a level that would reduce
the humidity by around 15% at the most. This year, I hadn't tried using the
dehumidifier until today, when I found out it isn't working correctly.

On this Amana unit, the bottom half of the case feels warm, since it houses
the compressor, and I can hear the compressor humming, but the fan is
blowing cool air. And no, the coils do not appear to need cleaning. (yes,
I did open up the case and look). When running, the unit is blowing cool
air instead of warm air and the case of the unit is sweating on one side as
if only the right half of the coils (when facing the unit from the front)
are cooling down. When I had the case open, the right half of the coils
felt a lot cooler to the touch than the left half (when facing the unit from
the front).

I'd probably get stuck with diagnostics and labor to have this fixed. It
might not be worth it as opposed to getting a new one.

Does anyone make a dehumidifier that actually lasts longer than 2 years? If
so, please let me know what brands will last longer. Should I get an
extended warranty this time?

Thanks,

J.

Yours has a refrigerant leak.

Right. This is the classic symptom when part of the evporator is very
cold or iced up and the other part is warm.

I own a 40 pint Haier that I use in my unfinished basement. I use it
with a drain hose since dumping the bucket twice a day is out of the
question. It runs continuously from May until November. It is now 4
years old.

Make sure your unit is getting the correct voltage/current. Don't use
an extension cord unless it's a cord rated for an air conditioner.
Lower voltages = higher current = compressor motor burnout.

And don't buy an LG. Although an excellent working machine, LG puts
the blower motor on top of the compressor and the heat opens the
thermal fuse located in the blower motor's windings. I've since
replaced that fuse (LG would replace the whole motor) and now have a
backup should the Haier bite it or if I have a torrential rain and
need to run both.

Or go to a garage sale and pick up an old Sears dehumidifier in working
condition. I've been using the same one for about 20 years (and it was
probably a good number of years old when I got it), cost me around $5,
only had to cobble together a replacement fan due to bad bearings a few
years ago. It runs most of the Summer.

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Hi!

*This one lasted a couple of months less than 2 years.

When running, the unit is blowing cool air instead of warm air and the
case of the unit is sweating on one side as if only the right half of the
coils (when facing the unit from the front) are cooling down. When I had
the case open, the right half of the coils felt a lot cooler to the touch
than the left half (when facing the unit from the front).

This sounds like the symptoms of a refrigerant leak. Sealed cooling
systems that are built properly should *never* leak refrigerant, as
they are very well sealed. Even the compressor is typically one piece,
welded together.

Does anyone make a dehumidifier that actually lasts longer than 2 years?

I think you might be better served by a used one.

The two newest units I have are both the Magic Chef brand, and they
have lasted well. When they were new, both units blew a rather
disconcerting spray of oil from the fan motors in the first few hours
they ran, but it must have been a case of overlubrication at the
factory.

I also picked up a Kenmore unit off the curb from the neighbors some
time back. They said it ran but "got hot". Turned out the coil was
completely plugged. It's still running in my plumbing room, and it
runs almost year round. It cycles on a few times per day and has been
doing so for about three years now.

But as Sam suggested, get yourself a secondhand Coldspot if you can
find one. I've got one that had a 30th birthday a long time back, and
the only thing it has ever needed besides cleaning is a fan motor. It
just keeps on going and going.

William

There is something wrong with my multimeter. It is giving readings too high
(as high as 170). Same thing happens when I hook the multimeter up to
portable power device (the kind with a 12V battery and a power inverter).
Do multimeters give too high readings when they have been used too much?

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
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On Jun 3, 9:05 pm, "
wrote:
How do I check the voltage level during operation? Do I connect a
multimeter to the 2nd free socket in the outlet that the unit is plugged
into? Or is it sufficient to check the voltage on the outlet when nothing
is plugged in.



J.
Better check your AC voltage level when they are operating. Sounds like
you have insufficient voltage and is causing the compressor to lag and
there for running hot.. Also uses more energy that way, higher cost of
operation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes - Check the other outlet of the pair when it is running, that is
when there is a load on the circuit. That does assume both outlets
are on the same feeder, which is the normal case unless there is
special wiring for a non-standard load. Voltage when not running is
almost meaningless, but check that it is between 115 and 125 volts no
load to ensure that the multimeter is working reasonably accurately.

" wrote:

There is something wrong with my multimeter. It is giving readings too high
(as high as 170). Same thing happens when I hook the multimeter up to
portable power device (the kind with a 12V battery and a power inverter).
Do multimeters give too high readings when they have been used too much?


Replace the battery.


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" writes:

How do I check the voltage level during operation? Do I connect a
multimeter to the 2nd free socket in the outlet that the unit is plugged
into? Or is it sufficient to check the voltage on the outlet when nothing
is plugged in.

Buy a Kill O Watt
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I salvaged two out of a building teardown. Both were dead for the same
reason. The crimped-shut Emerson Electric fan motors had ground to a halt
on dry bearings. Then the coils iced solid, and the Klixon overload on
the compressor soon toasted.

I drilled holes into the motors and lubed them; one was then usable, and
I found another at a hamfest.

Klixons cost ~$1.00 as I recall, but the manufacturer & various third
party appliance repair parts places want $35 for same. Some day I'll
measure all the needed data, and get some by specification from Klixon.
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On Jun 4, 12:53*pm, "
wrote:
There is something wrong with my multimeter. *It is giving readings too high
(as high as 170). *Same thing happens when I hook the multimeter up to
portable power device (the kind with a 12V battery and a power inverter).
Do multimeters give too high readings when they have been used too much?

"hr(bob) " wrote in message

...
On Jun 3, 9:05 pm, "
wrote:

How do I check the voltage level during operation? Do I connect a
multimeter to the 2nd free socket in the outlet that the unit is plugged
into? Or is it sufficient to check the voltage on the outlet when nothing
is plugged in.

J.
Better check your AC voltage level when they are operating. Sounds like
you have insufficient voltage and is causing the compressor to lag and
there for running hot.. Also uses more energy that way, higher cost of
operation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes - Check the other outlet of the pair when it is running, that is
when there is a load on the circuit. *That does assume both outlets
are on the same feeder, which is the normal case unless there is
special wiring for a non-standard load. * Voltage when not running is
almost meaningless, but check that it is between 115 and 125 volts no
load to ensure that the multimeter is working reasonably accurately.

Gi buy a new meter. The battery is used only for the ohms/continuity
check. You can get a simple meter for under $10.00

What does the Holy Quran say about Iron ?

By Magdy Abd Al-Shafy



I know that my article is not related to this group ,but it might be
useful.

PLEASE read it.
The Holy Quran , the last revealed Holy book, carries within its holy
verses the evidence toits Divine source .Among the many mitacles that
the holy Quran contain is the scientific miracles , more than 1400
years ago ,
The Holy Quran gives scientific facts that have been discovered
already and now are scientifically established . When the Holy Quran
gives such facts it adds many dimensions to the question of faith in
God ; in addition to the faith dimension there is a spiritual
dimension that Only Moslems and reasonable non -moslems can feel . The
Holy Quran stands in the face of the atheism claims . The other Holy
books , being distorted and pregnant with scientific errors that may
feed sckepticism , are no longer able to face atheism . Atheism are
breeding and taking people away from the right path . The Holy Quran ,
being the most authenticated book , can be the challanger - No one can
believe that a book with such astounding scientific miracles that
revealed 1400 years ago can be man-mad . Such facts lead you to
believe in God and to believe that the Holy Quran is God’s book …it is
up to you to decide ………
Now to our scientific miracle
The Holy Quran ststes in one of its Holy verses that ( iron ) we send
down from high skies , i.e, it is not formed in the ground . That what
science has aleady discovered . Let’s read this short verse .
God says in the Holy Quran what means "And We sent down iron in which
there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…. (Surat al-
Hadid: 25)
Modern astronomical findings have disclosed that the ****l of iron
found in our world has come down from the giant stars in outer space.
The Holy Quran verse used The Arabic word " Anzlna " which could be
rendered " and we sent down " . Iron needs so high temperature to be
formed ;
Professor Armstrong works at NASA, otherwise known as the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration, where he is a well-known
scientist here. He was asked about Iron and how it was formed. He
explained how all the elements in the earth were formed.
He stated that the scientists have come only recently to discover the
relevant facts about that formation process. He said that the energy
of the early solar system was not sufficient to produce elemental
Iron. In calculating the energy required to form one atom of iron, it
was found to be about four times as much as the energy of the entire
solar system. In other words, the entire energy of the earth or the
moon or the planet Mars or any other planet is not sufficient to form
one new atom of iron, even the energy of the entire solar system is
not sufficient for that. That is why Professor Armstrong said that the
scientists believe that iron is an extraterrestrial that was sent to
earth and not formed therein.
Unlike most of ****ls , iron needs so high temperature to be formed .
such high temperature is found no where in our solar system .
"Nova" and "supernova.
Temperature in the Sun is inadequate for the formation of iron. The
sun has a surface temperature of 6,000 degrees Celsius, and a core
temperature of approximately 20 million degrees. Iron can only be
produced in much larger stars than the Sun, where the temperature
reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds
a certain level in a star, the star can no longer accommodate it, and
it eventually explodes in what is called a "nova" or a "supernova."
These explosions make it possible for iron to be given off into space.

All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried
from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is
clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century,
when the Qur’an was revealed. Nevertheless, this fact is related in
the Qur’an, the Word of Allah, Who encompasses all things in His
infinite knowledge.
Science says that iron and other materials were attracted to the earh
when enetered the earth garvity field ; iron fell down on the earth as
if it were rain . the earth at that time was like ash , not completely
solid as it is now . Iron found its way deep to the core of the
earth .

And We sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has
many uses for mankind….
what is meant by ( and in which there lies great force and which has
many uses for mankind….
In his book Nature’s Destiny, the well-known microbiologist Michael
Denton
Of all the ls there is none more essential to life than iron. It is
the accumulation of iron in the center of a star which triggers a
supernova explosion and the subsequent scattering of the vital atoms
of life throughout the cosmos. It was the drawing by gravity of iron
atoms to the center of the primeval earth that generated the heat
which caused the initial chemical differentiation of the earth, the
outgassing of the early atmosphere, and ultimately the formation of
the hydrosphere. It is molten iron in the center of the earth which,
acting like a gigantic dynamo, generates the earth’s magnetic field,
which in turn creates the Van Allen radiation belts that shield the
earth’s surface from destructive high-energy-penetrating cosmic
radiation and preserve the crucial ozone layer from cosmic ray
destruction…
in this connection the Holy Quran , to show God’s blessings , in
another verse which implies anew scientific miracle says " And we have
made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from
the Signs which these things (point to)!( Al-Anbyaa :32 )
Without the iron atom, there would be no carbon-based life in the
cosmos; no supernovae, no heating of the primitive earth, no
atmosphere or hydrosphere. There would be no protective magnetic
field, no Van Allen radiation belts, no ozone layer, no l to make
hemoglobin [in human blood], no l to tame the reactivity of oxygen,
and no oxidative *bolism.
The intriguing and intimate relationship between life and iron,
between the red color of blood and the dying of some distant star, not
only indicates the relevance of this ls to biology but also the
biocentricity of the cosmos…
This account clearly indicates the importance of the iron atom. The
fact that particular attention is drawn to iron in the Qur’an also
emphasises the importance of the element. In addition, there is
another hidden truth in the Qur’an which draws attention to the
importance of iron: Surat al-Hadid 25, which refers to iron, contains
two rather interesting mathematical codes.
"Al- Hadid" is the 57th sura in the Qur’an. The abjad of the word "Al-
Hadid" in Arabic, when the numerological values of its letters are
added up, is also 57.
The numerological value of the word "hadid" alone is 26. And 26 is the
atomic number of iron.
Moreover, iron oxide particles were used in a cancer treatment in
recent months and positive developments were observed. A team led by
Dr. Andreas Jordan, at the world famous Charité Hospital in Germany,
succeeded in destroying cancer cells with this new technique developed
for the treatment of cancer-magnetic fluid hyperthermia (high
temperature magnetic liquid). As a result of this technique, first
performed on the 26-year-old Nikolaus H., no new cancer cells were
observed in the patient in the following three months.
This method of treatment can be summarised as follows:
1. A liquid containing iron oxide particles is injected into the
tumour by means of a special syringe. These particles spread
throughout the tumour cells. This liquid consists of thousands of
millions of particles, 1,000 times smaller than the red blood
corpuscles, of iron oxide in 1 cm3 that can easily flow through all
blood vessels.42
2. The patient is then placed in a machine with a powerful magnetic
field.
3. This magnetic field, applied externally, begins to set the iron
particles in the tumour in motion. During this time the temperature in
the tumour containing the iron oxide particles rises by up to 45
degrees.
In a few minutes the cancer cells, unable to protect themselves from
the heat, are either weakened or destroyed. The tumour may then be
completely eradicated with subsequent chemotherapy.43
In this treatment it is only the cancer cells that are affected by the
magnetic field, since only they contain the iron oxide particles. The
spread of this technique is a major development in the treatment of
this potentially lethal disease. In the treatment of such a widespread
disease as cancer, the use of the expression "iron in which there lies
great force and which has many uses for mankind" (Qur’an, 57:25) in
the Qur’an is particularly noteworthy. Indeed, in that verse, the
Qur’an may be indicating the benefits of iron for human health. (Allah
knows best.)



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Hi!

I salvaged two out of a building teardown. Both were dead for the
same reason. The crimped-shut Emerson Electric fan motors
had ground to a halt on dry bearings.

I find these exceedingly "entertaining". I've fished out numerous old
box fans from the trash over the years, and the thing that gets me
about all of them is how nobody *ever* followed the instructions to
oil them every _six months_. Only forty plus years later did the
motors finally lock up, and even that was only on a few of them. Even
when they're locked up, a little oil can save them and the bearings
are usually still quite usable.

By comparison to today's products, I'm sure that those old motors were
expensive to make. I feel it's fair to say that with the improved
technology we have today, making a "permanently lubricated" motor that
would run at least that long should be easily doable at a relatively
low cost. And yet even the good ones just don't last that long. Maybe
I'm overlooking something here--that this would be possible at low
cost but not "the lowest cost" (which may be all that matters).

Then the coils iced solid, and the Klixon overload on
the compressor soon toasted.

Good thing it did. I picked up a JC Penney's brand dehunidifier that
had a Fasco motor which was solidly locked up. I had to replace that
motor because nothing short of a bomb or violence would have opened it
up. I tried sneaking oil into it only to find that I couldn't get
enough oil in there to make a difference.

The original fan motor died with the compressor running, nobody
noticed for a few days and I guess it was just too much for the
compressor motor to handle. A few months after I fixed it, the
compressor simply died and would not start. All it would do was hum
and pop a breaker. I put the new fan motor aside for future use in the
Coldspot (it is exactly the same RPM and rotation direction) and saved
many of the electrical pieces (humidstat, pilot light, cord set) along
with some of the sheet metal.

William

I happen to live in NJ. What is the name of the website where you got the
refurbished LG?


--------------------------------------------------
most of the consumer ones are made by LG these days, you'll get to
recognize them under different brand names if you do some shopping.
they have a high death rate, but work fine until then. so...... buy a
factory refurbished one for half price (i got mine from some place in
NJ i found on the internet; the site says LG but the brandname you get
might be different); then get a "home warranty" type thing from sears
for $35 a year for the dehimidifier. i get my $35 worth in parts every
year, and it's cheaper than replacing the whole thing every two years,
as you say.

even works if you buy the original item full price, if you have to.