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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
Do they work through glass? I would like to find a unit that will
allow me to check temperatures in vacant stores through the storefront. http://shop.vendio.com/BROADSTONEPRO.../?s=1231846607 Like this. Thanks! Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
It's not a silly question.
Regular glass supposedly reflects infrared, does it not? And these devices measure infrared, is not so? |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
On Jan 14, 5:21*pm, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: It's not a silly question. Regular glass supposedly reflects infrared, does it not? And these devices measure infrared, is not so? Actually, glass reflects or absorbs infra-red based on angle and composition and coatings (if any). Were it to reflect (all of) it, a lens would not be very good at starting fires in by concentrating sunlight. Further, these guns use a laser and some sort of sensing device - so, I am trying to determine how good it would be at sensing say... a wall temperature a few feet inside a building through a window. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
: It's not a silly question. Regular glass supposedly reflects infrared, does it not? not all IR wavelengths. And these devices measure infrared, is not so? -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
wrote in message ... On Jan 14, 5:21 pm, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: It's not a silly question. Regular glass supposedly reflects infrared, does it not? And these devices measure infrared, is not so? Actually, glass reflects or absorbs infra-red based on angle and composition and coatings (if any). Were it to reflect (all of) it, a lens would not be very good at starting fires in by concentrating sunlight. Further, these guns use a laser and some sort of sensing device - so, I am trying to determine how good it would be at sensing say... a wall temperature a few feet inside a building through a window. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA The laser is purely for aiming and is not involved in the measuement process. Take a cup of coffey and try measuring its temp driectly and from behind some different glass types - some glass may be tempered or laminated which may affect readings (guessing here). |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
wrote in message
... Do they work through glass? I would like to find a unit that will allow me to check temperatures in vacant stores through the storefront. http://shop.vendio.com/BROADSTONEPRO.../?s=1231846607 Like this. Thanks! Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA PIR detectors don't work through glass -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
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, wrote: Do they work through glass? I would like to find a unit that will allow me to check temperatures in vacant stores through the storefront. http://shop.vendio.com/BROADSTONEPRO.../?s=1231846607 I have a similar looking one in the UK - and that does work through glass (or at least some types). For example it gives the same reading through my glass oven door as with it open (checking the oven thermostat). But things *may* be different with some types of glass designed to reflect the sun's heat. I'd also say that looks a high price for these things - perhaps because it's sold for automotive use. Check Radio Shack or Ebay etc for the same thing - in the UK 25 gbp is a guide price. -- *I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
Actually, glass reflects or absorbs infra-red based on angle and
composition and coatings (if any). Were it to reflect (all of) it, a lens would not be very good at starting fires in by concentrating sunlight. You've got to be kidding. Where did you learn "science"? |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
On Jan 15, 4:40*am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: I'd also say that looks a high price for these things - perhaps because it's sold for automotive use. Check Radio Shack or Ebay etc for the same thing - in the UK 25 gbp is a guide price. Yep. I just linked to that as it gave a fair description of the unit. Very similar units may be had at eBay for less than US$30 including shipping. I am going to check in several local supply houses as well. I am willing to pay a premium to find something - MAYBE - made in the USA. Thanks for the actual answer to the actual question. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
In article , " wrote:
Do they work through glass? I would like to find a unit that will allow me to check temperatures in vacant stores through the storefront. http://shop.vendio.com/BROADSTONEPRO.../?s=1231846607 Like this. Thanks! Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA From experiance, its not going to work well. You will get some relative indication of a general temperature of the inside comparing different stores. greg |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
" writes:
Do they work through glass? I would like to find a unit that will allow me to check temperatures in vacant stores through the storefront. http://shop.vendio.com/BROADSTONEPRO.../?s=1231846607 Like this. Thanks! Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA I just checked with my very similar gun, and it shows the surface temperature of the window glass. The outside temp is currently around -5°C here, and the gun shows around +22°C on a window above a radiator, and +15°C on a window in a door. I get the same reading on both coated and uncoated glass. The coated class is very effective at shielding radiowaves. Thomas |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
GregS wrote in message
... In article , " wrote: Do they work through glass? I would like to find a unit that will allow me to check temperatures in vacant stores through the storefront. http://shop.vendio.com/BROADSTONEPRO.../?s=1231846607 Like this. Thanks! Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA From experiance, its not going to work well. You will get some relative indication of a general temperature of the inside comparing different stores. greg As you can be shot and killed, quite legally with no retribution to them, by the police in the UK just for carying a table leg or just looking Brazilian, then not advisable to do such in the UK. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ |
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Silly Question: Heat Sensor Gun
" wrote in
: On Jan 14, 5:21*pm, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: It's not a silly question. Regular glass supposedly reflects infrared, does it not? And these device s measure infrared, is not so? Actually, glass reflects or absorbs infra-red based on angle and composition and coatings (if any). Were it to reflect (all of) it, a lens would not be very good at starting fires in by concentrating sunlight. Further, these guns use a laser and some sort of sensing device - so, I am trying to determine how good it would be at sensing say... a wall temperature a few feet inside a building through a window. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA I would guess that the reading will be an AVERAGE of the actual wall temperature and the glass temperature with weighing of those temperature depending on the exact characteristics of the glass. The only way to 'know' if it will work for YOUR application would be to try it in enough cases. Measure the wall temperature directly (without the glass in the path and then through the glass. If you need to read the temp through the SAME glass, time after time, you should be able to develop a calibration curve that will allow you to accurately estimate the wall temperature. -- bz 73 de N5BZ k please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an infinite set. remove ch100-5 to avoid spam trap |
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