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I have a couple of LCD monitors (Apple 21" and 23" Cinema displays,
Hitachi 17") that have bad inverters. I know these things vary widely in design, but I wonder if there's a good site/sites that teach about how inverters work and how to troubleshoot and repair them? ** To respond, remove the crap from my addy... ** |
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prc1 wrote:
I have a couple of LCD monitors (Apple 21" and 23" Cinema displays, Hitachi 17") that have bad inverters. I know these things vary widely in design, but I wonder if there's a good site/sites that teach about how inverters work and how to troubleshoot and repair them? ** To respond, remove the crap from my addy... ** I saw an 'instructable' regarding replacing many inverters with a generic unit. Try this search link: http://www.instructables.com/tag/?q=backlight+inverter&limit%3Atype%3Aid=on&type%3A id=on&type%3Auser=on&type%3Acomment=on&type%3Agrou p=on&type%3AforumTopic=on&sort=none Since then, inverters have come down in price. Do an eBay search for your unit and you might find one cheaply enough to make repair uneconomical. jak |
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![]() "jakdedert" wrote in message ... prc1 wrote: I have a couple of LCD monitors (Apple 21" and 23" Cinema displays, Hitachi 17") that have bad inverters. I know these things vary widely in design, but I wonder if there's a good site/sites that teach about how inverters work and how to troubleshoot and repair them? ** To respond, remove the crap from my addy... ** I saw an 'instructable' regarding replacing many inverters with a generic unit. Try this search link: http://www.instructables.com/tag/?q=backlight+inverter&limit%3Atype%3Aid=on&type%3A id=on&type%3Auser=on&type%3Acomment=on&type%3Agrou p=on&type%3AforumTopic=on&sort=none Since then, inverters have come down in price. Do an eBay search for your unit and you might find one cheaply enough to make repair uneconomical. jak In general, there are only a few things that fail on them - fuses which may not look like any fuse you would immediately recognise, transistors (often surface mount, but can be traditional thru' hole), transformers (some available, but most not) and the occasional output capacitor. You can find most of these things with a simple multimeter, but as Jak says, there are many places selling backlight inverters for both TV and monitor applications, so unless you are repairing an original just for the fun and experience, it's often more cost effective to just replace the whole board. Be careful when playing with them. Although not particularly dangerous, they can give you a nasty little 'bite' when they are operating ... :-) Arfa |
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are you sure it's the inverters? These Apple monitors have
relatively studly inverters and they drive the tubes quite hard. More often the tubes have plain worn out. As is often the case with Apple stuff, you can't just fit in a generic replacement. They have custom brightness signals and lamp-out feedback signals that have to be just right. And the repair manuals are mostly useless as they don't give any useful details. |
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 10:46:40 -0800 (PST), Ancient_Hacker
put finger to keyboard and composed: are you sure it's the inverters? These Apple monitors have relatively studly inverters and they drive the tubes quite hard. More often the tubes have plain worn out. Studly inverters tend to do that. :-) - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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On Dec 7, 10:46*am, Ancient_Hacker wrote:
They have custom brightness signals and lamp-out feedback signals that have to be just right. And the repair manuals are mostly useless as they don't give any useful details. Yep, and that's because the inverters are considered safety-critical because of the high voltages. No Apple tech will try to 'repair' one, just replace. Replacements aren't terribly expensive, but only a certified program-subscribing Apple affiliate can buy them from the Apple warehouse. Either find an Apple-sanctioned repair shop, or ask Apple about mail-in repair. If there's any chance the displays are under warranty, asking Apple is a good idea, anyhow (they track warranties by serial number, regardless of owner). |
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Thanks to all for your input! The monitors are mine, and I thought
this might be a good learning experience to attempt a fix since flat-screens are everywhere these days. I found an LCD repair supply company (lcdparts.net) that makes a redesigned inverter for at least one of these monitors--at about $130 a pop. THese would certainly be cheaper and less expensive to acquire than an original Apple unit. I've got a smaller project I'll attampt first: a Brookstone 7" digital picture frame (no OEM info available, unfortunately) whose backlights blink on and off about once per second. As far as I can tell the main CPU module works well as it loads and displays the pics off a memory card just fine. On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:18:23 -0500, prc1 wrote: I have a couple of LCD monitors (Apple 21" and 23" Cinema displays, Hitachi 17") that have bad inverters. I know these things vary widely in design, but I wonder if there's a good site/sites that teach about how inverters work and how to troubleshoot and repair them? ** To respond, remove the crap from my addy... ** ** To respond, remove the crap from my addy... ** |
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