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![]() Arfa Daily wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Arfa Daily wrote: Why does the heat from the anode of a power tube readily radiate across the vacuum, but the heat from the filament of a vacuum light bulb seems not to? d;~} Both do. It's called infra red radiation. There's also conduction too. Agreed that *should* be the case, but the fact is that the envelope of a vacuum light bulb remains substantially cold in use, whilst a 6L6's envelope will take the skin off your fingertips after a few minutes use ... What lighbulbs have *vacuums* in the bulb ? It's normally filled with a non-reactive gas mixture. Graham |
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![]() "Eeyore" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Arfa Daily wrote: Why does the heat from the anode of a power tube readily radiate across the vacuum, but the heat from the filament of a vacuum light bulb seems not to? d;~} Both do. It's called infra red radiation. There's also conduction too. Agreed that *should* be the case, but the fact is that the envelope of a vacuum light bulb remains substantially cold in use, whilst a 6L6's envelope will take the skin off your fingertips after a few minutes use ... What lighbulbs have *vacuums* in the bulb ? It's normally filled with a non-reactive gas mixture. Graham Maplins do a candle bulb that's vacuum filled. Also, see info on vacuum bulbs at http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html Arfa |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
...snip... Maplins do a candle bulb that's vacuum filled. Also, see info on vacuum bulbs at http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html Arfa "Vacuum filled," oh how I enjoy that one. It evokes the image of someone pouring stuff form this bottle of "vacuum" into each light bulb. However, I do believe it might be a bit more proper to say the bulbs are (or have been) evacuated. G [ Sorry, the pedantic devil made me do this. ] Later... Ron Capik -- |
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Ron Capik wrote in
: "Vacuum filled," oh how I enjoy that one. It evokes the image of someone pouring stuff form this bottle of "vacuum" into each light bulb. Hell yes, and as we know that nature (allegedly) abhors a vaccuum, that someone will really have to press the stuff in there hard. ![]() |
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![]() "Ron Capik" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: ...snip... Maplins do a candle bulb that's vacuum filled. Also, see info on vacuum bulbs at http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html Arfa "Vacuum filled," oh how I enjoy that one. It evokes the image of someone pouring stuff form this bottle of "vacuum" into each light bulb. However, I do believe it might be a bit more proper to say the bulbs are (or have been) evacuated. G [ Sorry, the pedantic devil made me do this. ] Later... Ron Capik -- It's one of those 'odd ones' isn't it ? Obviously "filled" is not the right word, and "evacuated" seems a bit 'scientific'. The references to these bulbs tend to call them "vacuum filled", so I just went along with that ... ;-) Arfa |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
"Ron Capik" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: ...snip... Maplins do a candle bulb that's vacuum filled. Also, see info on vacuum bulbs at http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html Arfa "Vacuum filled," oh how I enjoy that one. It evokes the image of someone pouring stuff form this bottle of "vacuum" into each light bulb. However, I do believe it might be a bit more proper to say the bulbs are (or have been) evacuated. G [ Sorry, the pedantic devil made me do this. ] Later... Ron Capik -- It's one of those 'odd ones' isn't it ? Obviously "filled" is not the right word, and "evacuated" seems a bit 'scientific'. The references to these bulbs tend to call them "vacuum filled", so I just went along with that ... ;-) Arfa Ahh, that so reminds me of the winning definition of "politically correct." "" Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."" So do take care as to what end of the vacuum you fill with. G Later... Ron Capik -- |
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![]() "Ron Capik" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Ron Capik" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: ...snip... Maplins do a candle bulb that's vacuum filled. Also, see info on vacuum bulbs at http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html Arfa "Vacuum filled," oh how I enjoy that one. It evokes the image of someone pouring stuff form this bottle of "vacuum" into each light bulb. However, I do believe it might be a bit more proper to say the bulbs are (or have been) evacuated. G [ Sorry, the pedantic devil made me do this. ] Later... Ron Capik -- It's one of those 'odd ones' isn't it ? Obviously "filled" is not the right word, and "evacuated" seems a bit 'scientific'. The references to these bulbs tend to call them "vacuum filled", so I just went along with that ... ;-) Arfa Ahh, that so reminds me of the winning definition of "politically correct." "" Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."" So do take care as to what end of the vacuum you fill with. G Later... Ron Capik -- Yes, very amusing, but now the pedantic devil sitting on your shoulder, is definitely asserting himself ... !! Arfa |
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Ron Capik wrote:
"Vacuum filled," oh how I enjoy that one. It evokes the image of someone pouring stuff form this bottle of "vacuum" into each light bulb. However, I do believe it might be a bit more proper to say the bulbs are (or have been) evacuated. G As long as you don't say something vacuous... -- We can't possibly imprison 300 million Americans for not paying their taxes, so let's grant all of them amnesty NOW! |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:19:52 GMT, the renowned Eeyore
wrote: Arfa Daily wrote: "Eeyore" wrote Arfa Daily wrote: Why does the heat from the anode of a power tube readily radiate across the vacuum, but the heat from the filament of a vacuum light bulb seems not to? d;~} Both do. It's called infra red radiation. There's also conduction too. Agreed that *should* be the case, but the fact is that the envelope of a vacuum light bulb remains substantially cold in use, whilst a 6L6's envelope will take the skin off your fingertips after a few minutes use ... What lighbulbs have *vacuums* in the bulb ? It's normally filled with a non-reactive gas mixture. Graham Many high voltage/low power bulbs are vacuum, IIRC. Don Klipstein says break-even is 6-10W/cm of filament. http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote in
: http://members.misty.com/don/bulb1.html That is such a good read ![]() LaserFAQ, but I never followed up enough to know how much good stuff he wrote. |
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