lexmark x83 scanner("color copier" and injet printer also in same box).

Belt says
pioneer rubber belt 397 MXL

Lexmark says "it is cheaper to replace [their equipment] than to repair
it" so they don't stock parts any more.

[what ever happened to the federal law that REQUIRED manufacturers of
consumer electronics equipment to maintain a parts supplies for 7 years
after last sale of the model??? And to make available service manuals??? If
the laws have been repealed, perhaps we need to have them unrepealed. If
they are just not enforced, perhaps we need to push for enforcement!]

Google has not given me anything that looks like the 'toothed, narrow
belt' that may be 397 mm long (the scanner scans legal sized documents) by
2 mm wide. (I don't have it at hand so am just guessing as to the size).

Anyone know where I can get a new belt? Mine seems to be stretched (the
spring tensioner/idler pully has reached end to travel) and to be slipping,
making loud popping noise.



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bz wrote in
98.139:

lexmark x83 scanner("color copier" and injet printer also in same box).

Belt says
pioneer rubber belt 397 MXL

Lexmark says "it is cheaper to replace [their equipment] than to repair
it" so they don't stock parts any more.

Since you can't buy it from Lexmark, you google around (lexmark
replacemnt part) and find that independent parts houses are taking up the
slack. For example:

http://tinyurl.com/34494g
http://www.sparepartswarehouse.com/L...inter,Belts.as
px

Jim Land wrote in
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bz wrote in
98.139:

lexmark x83 scanner("color copier" and injet printer also in same box).

Belt says
pioneer rubber belt 397 MXL

Lexmark says "it is cheaper to replace [their equipment] than to repair
it" so they don't stock parts any more.

Since you can't buy it from Lexmark, you google around (lexmark
replacemnt part) and find that independent parts houses are taking up the
slack. For example:

http://tinyurl.com/34494g
http://www.sparepartswarehouse.com/L...inter,Belts.as
px

I had tried google but got no hits that were useful. Perhaps too specific
or not specific enough.

Not sure if sparepartswarehouse can help either, but have submitted an
enquiry to them. The part that shows at the above link may or may not be
what I need but since it seems to be a laser printer belt, I have some
doubts, but we will see what they say.

Thanks for the help.





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Google has not given me anything that looks like the 'toothed, narrow
belt' that may be 397 mm long (the scanner scans legal sized documents) by
2 mm wide. (I don't have it at hand so am just guessing as to the size).

I believe these are called cogbelts.

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"bz" wrote in message
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Google has not given me anything that looks like the 'toothed, narrow
belt' that may be 397 mm long (the scanner scans legal sized documents) by
2 mm wide. (I don't have it at hand so am just guessing as to the size).

I believe these are called cogbelts.
Thanks!

That may help.





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If you can't find exact belt you might try browsing www.smallparts.com .
They even have belting of different diameters that you can heat the ends
and fuse together. RM~

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If you can't find exact belt you might try browsing www.smallparts.com .
They even have belting of different diameters that you can heat the ends
and fuse together. RM~

I remember doing that in the early 70's when I had a consumer electronics
repair shop in Texas. Sometimes we had to 'make our own' turntable belts.

I guess I might even take this one off, 'remove the slack' by cutting out a
section or two and get some more life out of it by using a bit of super-glue.

Of course, that may not work if it has stretched too much.




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Jim Land wrote in
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Since you can't buy it from Lexmark, you google around (lexmark
replacemnt part) and find that independent parts houses are taking up the
slack. For example:

http://tinyurl.com/34494g
http://www.sparepartswarehouse.com/L...inter,Belts.as
px


They replied:

Unfortunately, we are unable to supply you with the part you are
requesting. We would be receiving this part from Lexmark if they had it
available.

If you have any other needs, please don't hesitate to e-mail your parts
request or call our toll-free number, 1-877-253-8898, 8 am through 6 pm,
Eastern Standard Time.

Thank you for your interest in www.sparepartswarehouse.com





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Unfortunately, we are unable to supply you with the part you are
requesting. We would be receiving this part from Lexmark if they had it
available.

Allelectronics.com has some in stock. Crap shoot if the size is close
though.


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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:28:55 GMT, Homer J Simpson wrote:

"bz" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, we are unable to supply you with the part you are
requesting. We would be receiving this part from Lexmark if they had it
available.

Allelectronics.com has some in stock. Crap shoot if the size is close
though.

Well, you need to be concerned about size _and_ pitch.

I'd say futzing with ("re-engineering") the tensioner to snug it up
might be a Best Approach. Firstly, tho', check for non-binding movement
over the full scan path. Unhook the belt (that should be all that holds
the scan assy in place) and see that it slides freely. You did mention
a "thunk" and slipping belt in an earlier post.

Jonesy

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:28:55 GMT, Homer J Simpson wrote:

"bz" wrote in message
98.139...

Unfortunately, we are unable to supply you with the part you are
requesting. We would be receiving this part from Lexmark if they had
it available.

Allelectronics.com has some in stock. Crap shoot if the size is close
though.

Well, you need to be concerned about size _and_ pitch.

I'd say futzing with ("re-engineering") the tensioner to snug it up
might be a Best Approach.

I found another scanner of a different type that used a spring that rides
on the belt and provides tension. I am going to try to use it to 'take up
the slack'.

It seems to be working. May take some adjustment (making sure it is in
exactly the right spot) to make sure it doesn't bind anywhere during
normal travel. I only have had time to try one scan and it seemed to get
rid of the slipping (with loud popping noises as the normal tensioner
[lack of proper tension because it was at end of travel] let a tooth ride
up and over the driver 'pully gear'.

Going to still look for a replacement belt because I expect the belt will
continue to deteriorate.

Firstly, tho', check for non-binding movement
over the full scan path. Unhook the belt (that should be all that holds
the scan assy in place) and see that it slides freely. You did mention
a "thunk" and slipping belt in an earlier post.

Yeah, but it wasn't due to binding, due to lack of tension.

Jonesy






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"bz" wrote in message
98.139...

Unfortunately, we are unable to supply you with the part you are
requesting. We would be receiving this part from Lexmark if they had it
available.

Allelectronics.com has some in stock. Crap shoot if the size is close
though.

None of the ones they showed when I searched for 'belt' were anywhere near
close.




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In article 39,
bz wrote:

lexmark x83 scanner("color copier" and injet printer also in same box).

Belt says
pioneer rubber belt 397 MXL

Lexmark says "it is cheaper to replace [their equipment] than to repair
it" so they don't stock parts any more.

[what ever happened to the federal law that REQUIRED manufacturers of
consumer electronics equipment to maintain a parts supplies for 7 years
after last sale of the model??? And to make available service manuals??? If
the laws have been repealed, perhaps we need to have them unrepealed. If
they are just not enforced, perhaps we need to push for enforcement!]

Google has not given me anything that looks like the 'toothed, narrow
belt' that may be 397 mm long (the scanner scans legal sized documents) by
2 mm wide. (I don't have it at hand so am just guessing as to the size).

Anyone know where I can get a new belt? Mine seems to be stretched (the
spring tensioner/idler pully has reached end to travel) and to be slipping,
making loud popping noise.

How about just adding an idler to take the excess slack out of the belt?

Isaac

"isw" wrote in message
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How about just adding an idler to take the excess slack out of the belt?

Or chop out a piece and add a spring?

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"isw" wrote in message
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How about just adding an idler to take the excess slack out of the belt?

Not easy to do.


Or chop out a piece

weakens the belt or creates a stiff spot in it.

and add a spring?

The current idler is physically limited in its travel, adding a spring
there would not help unless I put a longer rod AND cut a hole in the case
for the belt and idler to travel through!!!


_ ____
Trying a kind of spring that makes a \ /
\ /
O

The belt is pinched together toward the top of the picture,
and pushed to the side, Downward in the drawing, toward the 'O', which
represents one turn of spring stock. The the top ends of the 'V' clip
around the belt and the belt passes below the 'O'. The spring tries to
bring the tops of the 'V' together.



Eventually the belt will stretch to the point where cogs will override
teeth and it will 'jump' a tooth when ever it likes.

The image will show bands of compression or expansion.

Eventually the belt will break.

The belt really does need to be replaced when it has stretched past a
certain point.



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and add a spring?

The current idler is physically limited in its travel, adding a spring
there would not help unless I put a longer rod AND cut a hole in the case
for the belt and idler to travel through!!!

Yep, it's a pain. Keep a look out on http://freecycle.org/ or
http://www.craigslist.org/ -- maybe someone has a busted one with a good
belt.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:06:48 +0000 (UTC), bz
put finger to keyboard and composed:

lexmark x83 scanner("color copier" and injet printer also in same box).

Belt says
pioneer rubber belt 397 MXL

Parts Breakdown Lexmark X83, X85 Scan / Print / Copy:
http://www.lexmark.com/AP/service/in...ction/4403.pdf

p/n 12G6150, Scanner Belt

Australian List Price Effective 17th April 2006
http://www.lexmark.com/vgn/images/po...ril%202006.pdf

Part Number Alternative DESCRIPTION Model Au $ Retail Service
Part Number Trackable
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12G6150 BELT SCANNER 4403 $2.13 N

- Franc Zabkar
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Franc Zabkar wrote in
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:06:48 +0000 (UTC), bz
put finger to keyboard and composed:

lexmark x83 scanner("color copier" and injet printer also in same box).

Belt says
pioneer rubber belt 397 MXL

Parts Breakdown Lexmark X83, X85 Scan / Print / Copy:
http://www.lexmark.com/AP/service/in...ction/4403.pdf

p/n 12G6150, Scanner Belt

Australian List Price Effective 17th April 2006
http://www.lexmark.com/vgn/images/po...IL%2017th%20%2
0April%202006.pdf

Part Number Alternative DESCRIPTION Model Au $ Retail Service
Part Number Trackable
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12G6150 BELT SCANNER 4403 $2.13 N


Thank YOU very much!

- Franc Zabkar





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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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Australian List Price Effective 17th April 2006

Maybe the Aussies make them stock parts?


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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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Australian List Price Effective 17th April 2006

Maybe the Aussies make them stock parts?

I rang up Parts Overnight. Initially they wanted to charge me $30 for
the belt, until I directed them to the price list they had posted on
their own web site. They then told me there was a minimum $20 order,
and that the part was not in stock. Maybe the part is actually
obsolete - I don't think they'll know until such time as someone tries
to order it.

- Franc Zabkar
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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Maybe the Aussies make them stock parts?

I rang up Parts Overnight. Initially they wanted to charge me $30 for
the belt, until I directed them to the price list they had posted on
their own web site. They then told me there was a minimum $20 order,
and that the part was not in stock. Maybe the part is actually
obsolete - I don't think they'll know until such time as someone tries
to order it.

If you can locate the stocking warehouse, maybe someone local can pick one
up and mail it to you. But it looks like Lexmark is another bad operator,
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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Maybe the Aussies make them stock parts?

I rang up Parts Overnight. Initially they wanted to charge me $30 for
the belt, until I directed them to the price list they had posted on
their own web site. They then told me there was a minimum $20 order,
and that the part was not in stock. Maybe the part is actually
obsolete - I don't think they'll know until such time as someone tries
to order it.

If you can locate the stocking warehouse, maybe someone local can pick
one up and mail it to you. But it looks like Lexmark is another bad
operator, no?


From my e-mail converstations with their 'support', I would say so.
[quote from their most recent reply]
Thank you for continuing to use our e-mail service. I apologize that we
did not provide a solution the first time around, but I truly appreciate
your patience. I believe that we can now give you an answer that is more
applicable to this situation.

Due to some technical difficulties, we could not retrieve your previous
email responses. We apologize for any inconvenience that may have been
caused to you. If you could re-send your request for assistance with a
more detailed description we will be able to assist you. In this
description please include the model number of the printer, the nature of
the problem, what you were doing when the problem occurred, the results of
the last job that you printed and any error message that you may have
encountered.

Also please include as much of the following information as you can:
.....
[unquote]

The blooming e-mail includes, in line, copies of all of the previous
e-mails, so any 'technical difficulties' in retrieving the information
must be due to a loose nut on the keyboard!.

Fer Gooo's sake, I asked them for a scanner belt for a model X83. Why in
the world would they want me to describe the problem, the print out
results and the operating system I am using????

Well, anyway, with Franc's information in front of me, I did a google for
the part number of the belt, found a closer source and ordered a belt. If
I had had half a brain, I would have looked in one of the on-line-manuals,
found the correct part number and googled for that number rather than
trying to find something with the model number and the word belt.

Thanks to all for patience and suggestions.





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On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:31:52 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
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"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message
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Maybe the Aussies make them stock parts?

I rang up Parts Overnight. Initially they wanted to charge me $30 for
the belt, until I directed them to the price list they had posted on
their own web site. They then told me there was a minimum $20 order,
and that the part was not in stock. Maybe the part is actually
obsolete - I don't think they'll know until such time as someone tries
to order it.

If you can locate the stocking warehouse, maybe someone local can pick one
up and mail it to you. But it looks like Lexmark is another bad operator,
no?

Parts Overnight are a different company. They claim to provide parts
for Lexmark, HP, Canon, Epson, and Fuji Xerox. As it is, I need a part
(220V heating element, p/n RG5-1965-HE) for a HP Laserjet 5L/6L, but
they don't list it. Had they stocked one, I would have ordered it and
helped the OP at the same time. BTW, there is a person selling heating
elements from an Australian based Ebay store, but he stopped
communicating with me after I asked whether he could do COD.

As for Lexmark, I had to speak to three different people, in three
different areas, and wait on three queues, before the last person told
me to ring Parts Overnight.

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"bz" wrote in message
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The blooming e-mail includes, in line, copies of all of the previous
e-mails, so any 'technical difficulties' in retrieving the information
must be due to a loose nut on the keyboard!.

What is that one again? "Problem exists between keyboard and chair"?

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Franc Zabkar wrote in
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Parts Overnight are a different company. They claim to provide parts
for Lexmark, HP, Canon, Epson, and Fuji Xerox. As it is, I need a part
(220V heating element, p/n RG5-1965-HE) for a HP Laserjet 5L/6L, but
they don't list it. Had they stocked one, I would have ordered it and
helped the OP at the same time. BTW, there is a person selling heating
elements from an Australian based Ebay store, but he stopped
communicating with me after I asked whether he could do COD.

As for Lexmark, I had to speak to three different people, in three
different areas, and wait on three queues, before the last person told
me to ring Parts Overnight.



I do appreciate the time and trouble you went through to help me.
I know exactly how frustrating those phone queues are.

I certainly can NOT recommend Lexmark's support!




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"bz" wrote in message
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The blooming e-mail includes, in line, copies of all of the previous
e-mails, so any 'technical difficulties' in retrieving the information
must be due to a loose nut on the keyboard!.

What is that one again? "Problem exists between keyboard and chair"?



Or a cockpit problem, aka pilot error.

They need an attitude adjustment, for sure.


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