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Hi, I have an old Aiwa CX-NA50 that I bought in 1998. It's a three CD
(3 CD) mini system. From the beginning it would "reject" certain CDs.. it would spin them a couple of times, with a slight clicking, might bring up the track directories every once in awhile, but most often would skip to the next cd. After about a year of this it wouldn't play CDs much any more at all. It's been sitting in the closet since about 1999. Recently I took it out to play MP3s and XM Radio via an FM transmitter because the little speakers are excellent. Today I took it apart and fiddled with the little potentiometer (potter, pot) inside the machine right next to (behind actually, a few inches toward the rear of the machine) the laser. It was a chore getting it apart and I had to take off the side and part of the back. I turned the little potter about 1/8 turn counter-clockwise, and it started working and now seems to read and play CDs. Whether this will "burn out" the laser at some point is not a concern to me since it wasn't working at all before. I tested it to make sure this was actually the reason by turning the potter back into the original position, and sure enough it failed to work again. So I'm reasonably sure this is what's the matter with it, or a "kludge" to get around what is really the matter. Previously I had tried to clean the laser, to no avail. For those of you who have faulty Aiwa systems you should know that there was a class-action settlement a few years ago that offered to replair the systems for free, because many of the systems had this problem. It is a very common problem. Unfortunately the period of time to take advantage of that has passed, so now you must do it yourself unless you simply want to pitch the system or pay money to have someone else do it. So if your mini CD player is not reading the discs you put in, you may want to try this fix. Do this at your own risk. |
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![]() "aasdf" wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I have an old Aiwa CX-NA50 that I bought in 1998. It's a three CD (3 CD) mini system. From the beginning it would "reject" certain CDs.. it would spin them a couple of times, with a slight clicking, might bring up the track directories every once in awhile, but most often would skip to the next cd. After about a year of this it wouldn't play CDs much any more at all. It's been sitting in the closet since about 1999. Recently I took it out to play MP3s and XM Radio via an FM transmitter because the little speakers are excellent. Today I took it apart and fiddled with the little potentiometer (potter, pot) inside the machine right next to (behind actually, a few inches toward the rear of the machine) the laser. It was a chore getting it apart and I had to take off the side and part of the back. I turned the little potter about 1/8 turn counter-clockwise, and it started working and now seems to read and play CDs. Whether this will "burn out" the laser at some point is not a concern to me since it wasn't working at all before. I tested it to make sure this was actually the reason by turning the potter back into the original position, and sure enough it failed to work again. So I'm reasonably sure this is what's the matter with it, or a "kludge" to get around what is really the matter. Previously I had tried to clean the laser, to no avail. For those of you who have faulty Aiwa systems you should know that there was a class-action settlement a few years ago that offered to replair the systems for free, because many of the systems had this problem. It is a very common problem. Unfortunately the period of time to take advantage of that has passed, so now you must do it yourself unless you simply want to pitch the system or pay money to have someone else do it. So if your mini CD player is not reading the discs you put in, you may want to try this fix. Do this at your own risk. This is actually not good *general* advice. Be sure that the laser will now totally fail in pretty short order. The laser pot is neither intended to be, nor ever should be, adjusted with 99% of the lasers used in audio and DVD equipment. It's setting is carefully determined at the factory as a result of measuring several parameters. One notable exception is Pioneer, where there is a proper laid down procedure for adjusting it. I have repaired many thousands of Aiwas over the years, but far from saying that laser failure in them is common because of any manufacturing or design problem, I would venture that the reason I have seen so many, is that I service them for the trade, and they were a very popular item, sold through several of the large chains here, so as a value for money item, which I believe they are, they outsold many other brands and models. The laser employed in them is one of the KSS series from Sony, and these lasers are extremely cheap anyway, so if you've gone to the trouble of stripping the unit far enough to get at the pot, you might as well replace the laser. I am pleased for you that adjusting the pot got your unit going to your satisfaction, but it was possible that the fault lay elsewhere, and adjusting the laser would only have compounded the problem by resulting in laser damage. For that reason, if no other, I would STRONGLY advise anyone reading this thread, to NEVER adjust a laser as part of a diagnosis procedure, unless it is a valid and manufacturer-recommended procedure. Some lasers are very expensive ( and very reliable ), and altering the pot on them, when the real problem may well be some two penny resistor, is likely to result in a written off unit. Arfa |
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ups.com... Hi, I have an old Aiwa CX-NA50 that I bought in 1998. It's a three CD (3 CD) mini system. From the beginning it would "reject" certain CDs.. it would spin them a couple of times, with a slight clicking, might bring up the track directories every once in awhile, but most often would skip to the next cd. After about a year of this it wouldn't play CDs much any more at all. It's been sitting in the closet since about 1999. Recently I took it out to play MP3s and XM Radio via an FM transmitter because the little speakers are excellent. Today I took it apart and fiddled with the little potentiometer (potter, pot) inside the machine right next to (behind actually, a few inches toward the rear of the machine) the laser. It was a chore getting it apart and I had to take off the side and part of the back. I turned the little potter about 1/8 turn counter-clockwise, and it started working and now seems to read and play CDs. Whether this will "burn out" the laser at some point is not a concern to me since it wasn't working at all before. I tested it to make sure this was actually the reason by turning the potter back into the original position, and sure enough it failed to work again. So I'm reasonably sure this is what's the matter with it, or a "kludge" to get around what is really the matter. Previously I had tried to clean the laser, to no avail. For those of you who have faulty Aiwa systems you should know that there was a class-action settlement a few years ago that offered to replair the systems for free, because many of the systems had this problem. It is a very common problem. Unfortunately the period of time to take advantage of that has passed, so now you must do it yourself unless you simply want to pitch the system or pay money to have someone else do it. So if your mini CD player is not reading the discs you put in, you may want to try this fix. Do this at your own risk. For anyone else seeing this in the archives etc. You should have measured the ohmage of that preset to the nearest ohm with a DVM/resistance first, so you could get back to the initial starting point , if you had made matters worse. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ |
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... aasdf wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I have an old Aiwa CX-NA50 that I bought in 1998. It's a three CD (3 CD) mini system. From the beginning it would "reject" certain CDs.. it would spin them a couple of times, with a slight clicking, might bring up the track directories every once in awhile, but most often would skip to the next cd. After about a year of this it wouldn't play CDs much any more at all. It's been sitting in the closet since about 1999. Recently I took it out to play MP3s and XM Radio via an FM transmitter because the little speakers are excellent. Today I took it apart and fiddled with the little potentiometer (potter, pot) inside the machine right next to (behind actually, a few inches toward the rear of the machine) the laser. It was a chore getting it apart and I had to take off the side and part of the back. I turned the little potter about 1/8 turn counter-clockwise, and it started working and now seems to read and play CDs. Whether this will "burn out" the laser at some point is not a concern to me since it wasn't working at all before. I tested it to make sure this was actually the reason by turning the potter back into the original position, and sure enough it failed to work again. So I'm reasonably sure this is what's the matter with it, or a "kludge" to get around what is really the matter. Previously I had tried to clean the laser, to no avail. For those of you who have faulty Aiwa systems you should know that there was a class-action settlement a few years ago that offered to replair the systems for free, because many of the systems had this problem. It is a very common problem. Unfortunately the period of time to take advantage of that has passed, so now you must do it yourself unless you simply want to pitch the system or pay money to have someone else do it. So if your mini CD player is not reading the discs you put in, you may want to try this fix. Do this at your own risk. For anyone else seeing this in the archives etc. You should have measured the ohmage of that preset to the nearest ohm with a DVM/resistance first, so you could get back to the initial starting point , if you had made matters worse. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ afterthought. Do not adjust this pot any more than 2 to 5 percent up or down of its original setting, hence requirement to measure firstly. |
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![]() "N Cook" wrote in message ... N Cook wrote in message ... aasdf wrote in message ups.com... Hi, I have an old Aiwa CX-NA50 that I bought in 1998. It's a three CD (3 CD) mini system. From the beginning it would "reject" certain CDs.. it would spin them a couple of times, with a slight clicking, might bring up the track directories every once in awhile, but most often would skip to the next cd. After about a year of this it wouldn't play CDs much any more at all. It's been sitting in the closet since about 1999. Recently I took it out to play MP3s and XM Radio via an FM transmitter because the little speakers are excellent. Today I took it apart and fiddled with the little potentiometer (potter, pot) inside the machine right next to (behind actually, a few inches toward the rear of the machine) the laser. It was a chore getting it apart and I had to take off the side and part of the back. I turned the little potter about 1/8 turn counter-clockwise, and it started working and now seems to read and play CDs. Whether this will "burn out" the laser at some point is not a concern to me since it wasn't working at all before. I tested it to make sure this was actually the reason by turning the potter back into the original position, and sure enough it failed to work again. So I'm reasonably sure this is what's the matter with it, or a "kludge" to get around what is really the matter. Previously I had tried to clean the laser, to no avail. For those of you who have faulty Aiwa systems you should know that there was a class-action settlement a few years ago that offered to replair the systems for free, because many of the systems had this problem. It is a very common problem. Unfortunately the period of time to take advantage of that has passed, so now you must do it yourself unless you simply want to pitch the system or pay money to have someone else do it. So if your mini CD player is not reading the discs you put in, you may want to try this fix. Do this at your own risk. For anyone else seeing this in the archives etc. You should have measured the ohmage of that preset to the nearest ohm with a DVM/resistance first, so you could get back to the initial starting point , if you had made matters worse. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ afterthought. Do not adjust this pot any more than 2 to 5 percent up or down of its original setting, hence requirement to measure firstly. However, as I said, it really should not be adjusted in the first place. Some optical blocks are very sensitive to abuse, and even if setting the pot back to the original point - which incidentally can usually be achieved by setting the paint seal that you've fractured back to where it was ... - the damage may already have been done, giving you the possibility that you now have two faults. Unless you have the necessary diagnostic skills to know exactly what you are doing, and which laser types are likely to respond, and which to fail as a result of altering their pots, and are prepared to shell out on a shiny new replacement, that still might not work if the problem is elsewhere, then my strong recommendation has to be don't adjust the pot at all, ever. Arfa |
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