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Electric Golf Trolley Controller
I hope this is the correct group - please feel free to redirect me if
not... I have an electric golf trolley which has developed a fault....upon opening up the controller I noticed that one of the components was burnt out.... When I tried to remove the component the casing fell apart, which meant that the part number was unreadable.... I am now trying to figure out what part it actually was.... There is a similar looking component next to it, which from the markings (B2060) seems to be a Schottky Rectifier (but I am not sure). This component is made by a different manufacturer from the one that fell apart, and is connected to the positive feed from the battery. The one that fell apart is connected to the negative feed from the battery, and made by IRF. I think it might be a "55V Single N-Channel HEXFET Power MOSFET in a TO-220AB package" (From the IRF website this is one of the only units that has an N in the product code - which is the only letter I can make out on what is left of the component) Would one of these be present on such a device ? Any other advice? Sorry, but my knowledge of electronics is pretty poor..... Many thanks Andrew |
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Sorry - I completely forgot to mention that...
It is one of these I believe http://www.ykfeiya.com/htm/big.php?pid=167 Many thanks Andrew Meat Plow wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:33:27 -0800, andrew.carroll Has Frothed: I hope this is the correct group - please feel free to redirect me if not... I have an electric golf trolley which has developed a fault....upon opening up the controller I noticed that one of the components was burnt out.... When I tried to remove the component the casing fell apart, which meant that the part number was unreadable.... I am now trying to figure out what part it actually was.... There is a similar looking component next to it, which from the markings (B2060) seems to be a Schottky Rectifier (but I am not sure). This component is made by a different manufacturer from the one that fell apart, and is connected to the positive feed from the battery. The one that fell apart is connected to the negative feed from the battery, and made by IRF. I think it might be a "55V Single N-Channel HEXFET Power MOSFET in a TO-220AB package" (From the IRF website this is one of the only units that has an N in the product code - which is the only letter I can make out on what is left of the component) Would one of these be present on such a device ? Any other advice? Sorry, but my knowledge of electronics is pretty poor..... Many thanks Andrew Would help to know the make and model of the golf cart (trolly)? -- Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004 COOSN-266-06-25794 |
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I tried e-mailing them, but I got an error message back, so I have also
filled out the feedback form on the website in the hope I get a response that way. Thanks Andrew Meat Plow wrote: On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:31:27 -0500, Meat Plow Has Frothed: On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:21:33 -0800, andrew.carroll Has Frothed: Sorry - I completely forgot to mention that... Hah, no problem. It is one of these I believe http://www.ykfeiya.com/htm/big.php?pid=167 Many thanks Andrew Ok, it's made by Yongkang New Feiya. Let me see what I can dig up for you. Contact Jack Xu: Maybe he has service literature in the form of a PDF or a service manual to help you identify the part. -- Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004 COOSN-266-06-25794 |
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Meat Plow wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:33:27 -0800, andrew.carroll Has Frothed: I hope this is the correct group - please feel free to redirect me if not... I have an electric golf trolley which has developed a fault....upon opening up the controller I noticed that one of the components was burnt out.... When I tried to remove the component the casing fell apart, which meant that the part number was unreadable.... I am now trying to figure out what part it actually was.... There is a similar looking component next to it, which from the markings (B2060) seems to be a Schottky Rectifier (but I am not sure). This component is made by a different manufacturer from the one that fell apart, and is connected to the positive feed from the battery. The one that fell apart is connected to the negative feed from the battery, and made by IRF. I think it might be a "55V Single N-Channel HEXFET Power MOSFET in a TO-220AB package" (From the IRF website this is one of the only units that has an N in the product code - which is the only letter I can make out on what is left of the component) Would one of these be present on such a device ? Any other advice? Sorry, but my knowledge of electronics is pretty poor..... Sounds pretty likely, I'd expect there to be several MOSFETs in the controller, is it in parallel with any other similar looking components? |
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There is a very similar looking component right next to it, although it
has different markings. The one I have removed was connected to the negative feed from the battery, with one of the other pins connected to a resistor. The other, similar one, has one pin connected to the positive battery terminal (which is also shared with the positive feed to the motor), and one of the other pins is connected to the negative feed to the motor. Sounds pretty likely, I'd expect there to be several MOSFETs in the controller, is it in parallel with any other similar looking components? |
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This looks like a very similar circuit to the one I am trying to
repair... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Golf-...QQcmdZViewItem The component that has failed is one of those under the heatsink (far left of the picture)....with the insulating pads underneath Thanks Andrew wrote: There is a very similar looking component right next to it, although it has different markings. The one I have removed was connected to the negative feed from the battery, with one of the other pins connected to a resistor. The other, similar one, has one pin connected to the positive battery terminal (which is also shared with the positive feed to the motor), and one of the other pins is connected to the negative feed to the motor. Sounds pretty likely, I'd expect there to be several MOSFETs in the controller, is it in parallel with any other similar looking components? |
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Clint Sharp wrote:
In message . com, writes This looks like a very similar circuit to the one I am trying to repair... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Golf-...W_W0QQitemZ280 051304233QQihZ018QQcategoryZ40155QQssPageNameZWDVW QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The component that has failed is one of those under the heatsink (far left of the picture)....with the insulating pads underneath Thanks Andrew I would have to ask why not just buy that one then, it's only 19.50and it's highly likely to be more reliable than something that's been repaired. Are you in the UK? If so, roughly where, I may be able to help. Why would it be more reliable than something that was repaired? A quality repair will often fix shortcuts taken in the original manufacture. |
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In message kQJ8h.6566$LH2.1243@trndny04, James Sweet
writes I would have to ask why not just buy that one then, it's only 19.50and it's highly likely to be more reliable than something that's been repaired. Are you in the UK? If so, roughly where, I may be able to help. Why would it be more reliable than something that was repaired? A quality repair will often fix shortcuts taken in the original manufacture. Agreed, that's a very good point but the OP stated he knows little about electronics so I would suspect this isn't going to be the case here. Of course, there may be another fault and the new unit may burn up immediately. If he's doing it to learn then it's obviously not going to help either. -- Clint Sharp |
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Hi Clint,
That is my fall back plan.....although the one on the auction looks a little more up to date, as it actually has proper connectors on it rather than having all the wires soldered to the circuit. I thought it might be a learning experience to have a go myself first though.... I am in the UK - Leighton Buzzard to be precise.. Many thanks Andrew Clint Sharp wrote: In message . com, writes This looks like a very similar circuit to the one I am trying to repair... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Golf-...W_W0QQitemZ280 051304233QQihZ018QQcategoryZ40155QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The component that has failed is one of those under the heatsink (far left of the picture)....with the insulating pads underneath Thanks Andrew I would have to ask why not just buy that one then, it's only 19.50and it's highly likely to be more reliable than something that's been repaired. Are you in the UK? If so, roughly where, I may be able to help. -- Clint Sharp |
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Hi Franc,
I think you are probably correct - My initial checks had suggested that it was the power MOSFET, and the ones I am looking at are 50v with an RDSon of 0.014, which I believe is low. Many thanks Andrew Franc Zabkar wrote: On 21 Nov 2006 04:35:37 -0800, put finger to keyboard and composed: There is a very similar looking component right next to it, although it has different markings. The one I have removed was connected to the negative feed from the battery, with one of the other pins connected to a resistor. This is probably the motor driver MOSFET. Before you replace it, I would check all its support components, and I'd also confirm that the motor is OK. At the very least I'd check the brushes. When replacing the MOSFET, choose a high current, low RDSon type. You may find that ST Microelectronics have a cheaper, more readily available range than IRF. The other, similar one, has one pin connected to the positive battery terminal (which is also shared with the positive feed to the motor), and one of the other pins is connected to the negative feed to the motor. I think that is probably a back-emf suppression diode, eg MBRB2060CT (20A, 60V). Sounds pretty likely, I'd expect there to be several MOSFETs in the controller, is it in parallel with any other similar looking components? If the golf cart is designed to travel in the forward direction only, then a single MOSFET would suffice. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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Clint,
Thanks for the offer though.....I'll post how I get on.... Regards Andrew Clint Sharp wrote: In message .com, writes Hi Clint, I thought it might be a learning experience to have a go myself first though.... Always nice to learn things, there are lots of people here willing to help. I am in the UK - Leighton Buzzard to be precise.. Ah, Manchester here, was thinking maybe I could take a look but the cost of the postage would make it more expensive. Many thanks Andrew -- Clint Sharp |
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