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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a
standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan -- ************************************************** ******** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ************************************************** ******** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ************************************************** ******** |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
JazzMan wrote:
A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan Triac.... Google it. jak |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
jakdedert wrote:
JazzMan wrote: A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan Triac.... Google it. jak Thanks, I would (given my luck) spent a couple of days googling before I stumbled across a repair. Now to find a triac. JazzMan -- ************************************************** ******** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ************************************************** ******** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ************************************************** ******** |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
JazzMan wrote:
jakdedert wrote: JazzMan wrote: A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan Triac.... Google it. jak Thanks, I would (given my luck) spent a couple of days googling before I stumbled across a repair. Now to find a triac. JazzMan You can get one at Radio Shack, if you can't find one there, email me and I'll send you one. |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
JazzMan wrote:
jakdedert wrote: JazzMan wrote: A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan Triac.... Google it. jak Thanks, I would (given my luck) spent a couple of days googling before I stumbled across a repair. Now to find a triac. Okay, I've done it for you. (It's been a while since I played actively with this stuff...I was curious.): From the FAQ for the comp.home.automation newsgroup at http://techsupt.winbatch.com/TS/T000002007F31.html "Q508. How do I repair a "blown" X10 lamp module? X10 lamp modules have a bad habit of dying premature deaths. Most of the time, the problem can be traced back to a bad triac. Why the triac is the weak link has been debated hotly. It is possible to "resurrect" the module by simply replacing the triac. Caution must be stressed here; there are a lot of triacs available, but whichever one you use must have an isolated tab. The most universally available replacement is from Radio Shack, part number 276-1000 [Does this part actually have an isolated tab?], or Digi-Key part number L4008L6-ND. In addition to having an isolated tab, it also has a higher rating than the original one, so will be less likely to fail. If you don't know a triac from a mouse trap, you'd better not try to replace it." jak JazzMan |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
You don't use peanut butter on the triac, right?
jakdedert wrote: If you don't know a triac from a mouse trap, you'd better not try to replace it." |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:12:45 -0600, Mike Berger wrote:
jakdedert wrote: If you don't know a triac from a mouse trap, you'd better not try to replace it." You don't use peanut butter on the triac, right? Do you mean bird ****? |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away... Success!
James Sweet wrote:
JazzMan wrote: jakdedert wrote: JazzMan wrote: A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan Triac.... Google it. jak Thanks, I would (given my luck) spent a couple of days googling before I stumbled across a repair. Now to find a triac. JazzMan You can get one at Radio Shack, if you can't find one there, email me and I'll send you one. Success!!! I had a dead wall switch module, it quit responding to the remote a long time ago. I looked at it and it had a triac similar to the one in the lamp module. It was BTA10 400C, and the lamp module triac was marked BTA10 600C. It took some finagling the leads because the center lead was bent opposite on the wall switch compared to the lamp module, but after getting it in it worked perfectly. Thanks a bunch, folks! JazzMan -- ************************************************** ******** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ************************************************** ******** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ************************************************** ******** |
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Before I throw this X-10 lamp module away... Success!
JazzMan wrote:
James Sweet wrote: JazzMan wrote: jakdedert wrote: JazzMan wrote: A bulb blue-flashed failed in my lamp controlled by a standard X-10 lamp module, the result being that now the module when turned off only goes to half-brightness, both by dimming and by commanding OFF via the remote. I don't have money to buy another one, but may have the ability to fix this one if it's a known failure mode and replacement parts are in my giant bin-O-parts. Anyone know enough about these to offer pointers or advice? JazzMan Triac.... Google it. jak Thanks, I would (given my luck) spent a couple of days googling before I stumbled across a repair. Now to find a triac. JazzMan You can get one at Radio Shack, if you can't find one there, email me and I'll send you one. Success!!! I had a dead wall switch module, it quit responding to the remote a long time ago. I looked at it and it had a triac similar to the one in the lamp module. It was BTA10 400C, and the lamp module triac was marked BTA10 600C. It took some finagling the leads because the center lead was bent opposite on the wall switch compared to the lamp module, but after getting it in it worked perfectly. Thanks a bunch, folks! JazzMan One thing that goes wrong with the WS modules (a couple of things, actually) is that the cutoff switch, below the push button, gets tweaked out. Either the contacts get dirty or the switch just gets forgotten. There's a small gauge wire jumper on the board that sometimes goes kablooey as well. I believe it's meant to be a sort of fuse, but I've never seen reference to it anywhere. I've brought a couple of those back to life by simply replacing it with similar gauge wire. jak |
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