I hate servicing projection sets, but agreed to this one simply because
business is so slow these days. Right away it's obvious I will need some
help:
When I first tried the set, pushing power causes the set to cycle on and off
very rapidly (for as long as power is held down). I went through the power
supply and tried replacing some caps; now, pushing power starts the set for
a half second and it shuts right down - and will not try to start again
until the set is unplugged for a minute. Testing has ruled out HV shutdown.
The first thing I intend to replace is the EEPROM. While I wait for that
to be ordered, can you give me any other advice? The customer said the set
would also go to a black-and-white picture once in a while, and turning it
off for a few minutes would correct the problem (at least for a few more
minutes). So I suspect there may be other problems waiting to be found, once
the set is brought back to running condition. Or is that perhaps a fault of
the EEPROM as well??

Chris F. wrote:
I hate servicing projection sets, but agreed to this one simply because
business is so slow these days. Right away it's obvious I will need some
help:
When I first tried the set, pushing power causes the set to cycle on and off
very rapidly (for as long as power is held down). I went through the power
supply and tried replacing some caps; now, pushing power starts the set for
a half second and it shuts right down - and will not try to start again
until the set is unplugged for a minute. Testing has ruled out HV shutdown.
The first thing I intend to replace is the EEPROM. While I wait for that
to be ordered, can you give me any other advice? The customer said the set
would also go to a black-and-white picture once in a while, and turning it
off for a few minutes would correct the problem (at least for a few more
minutes). So I suspect there may be other problems waiting to be found, once
the set is brought back to running condition. Or is that perhaps a fault of
the EEPROM as well??




Does the EEPROM commonly fail on these? I don't think I've ever come
across a bad EEPROM in a TV, not to say it doesn't happen, but it
certainly wouldn't be my first suspect unless it's a known issue.

With the exception of the tuner ground causing failure of the eeprom
data on the direct view ctc177 series, I have never seen an eeprom
failure in an RPTV set.

There is little real technical information in the OP to garner any kind
of help.
It might be best for the OP to post information like a trained,
equipped, and qualified technician would.

Unhook the high voltage splitter input from the flyback, & if the unit comes
on with filiaments, you have it. If this fails to get it going, the flyback
may be
bad, especially if nothing else is bad. The red wire next to the flyback can
also make it look like the flyback itself is bad. Look for CRT coolant leaks
....many problems with these with leaks, & a lot more. Is it "squealing"
while
it's trying to start? You have a short, if so. Check the horizontal output,
pincushion correction circuit, & convergence power supply. Hope this
helps. EEPROM highly unlikely at fault, unless someone was at the unit,
or if the tuner was really bad...solder connections, & left to long. Sky.




"Chris F." wrote in message
...
I hate servicing projection sets, but agreed to this one simply because
business is so slow these days. Right away it's obvious I will need some
help:
When I first tried the set, pushing power causes the set to cycle on and
off
very rapidly (for as long as power is held down). I went through the power
supply and tried replacing some caps; now, pushing power starts the set
for
a half second and it shuts right down - and will not try to start again
until the set is unplugged for a minute. Testing has ruled out HV
shutdown.
The first thing I intend to replace is the EEPROM. While I wait for that
to be ordered, can you give me any other advice? The customer said the set
would also go to a black-and-white picture once in a while, and turning it
off for a few minutes would correct the problem (at least for a few more
minutes). So I suspect there may be other problems waiting to be found,
once
the set is brought back to running condition. Or is that perhaps a fault
of
the EEPROM as well??

I neglected to mention the chassis # - it is a CTC-169PT
No evidence of coolant leakes at all, and I've tried to power it with the
yokes & flyback lead disconnected. As I said before, I ruled out HV shutdown
by disconnecting that lead to the TA8680 IC.
I've replaced many bad EEPROMS on the CTC-175 series....
One other thing worth noting; with a VOM connected across the B+ supply, I
noticed something odd; when the set is plugged in, instead of going directly
to 150 volts or so, it goes to about 100 and slowly ramps up to 150 within
3 - 5 seconds. Maybe this is normal, I'm not sure.
"Sky" wrote in message
...
Unhook the high voltage splitter input from the flyback, & if the unit
comes
on with filiaments, you have it. If this fails to get it going, the
flyback
may be
bad, especially if nothing else is bad. The red wire next to the flyback
can
also make it look like the flyback itself is bad. Look for CRT coolant
leaks
...many problems with these with leaks, & a lot more. Is it "squealing"
while
it's trying to start? You have a short, if so. Check the horizontal
output,
pincushion correction circuit, & convergence power supply. Hope this
helps. EEPROM highly unlikely at fault, unless someone was at the unit,
or if the tuner was really bad...solder connections, & left to long. Sky.




"Chris F." wrote in message
...
I hate servicing projection sets, but agreed to this one simply because
business is so slow these days. Right away it's obvious I will need some
help:
When I first tried the set, pushing power causes the set to cycle on and
off
very rapidly (for as long as power is held down). I went through the
power
supply and tried replacing some caps; now, pushing power starts the set
for
a half second and it shuts right down - and will not try to start again
until the set is unplugged for a minute. Testing has ruled out HV
shutdown.
The first thing I intend to replace is the EEPROM. While I wait for
that
to be ordered, can you give me any other advice? The customer said the
set
would also go to a black-and-white picture once in a while, and turning
it
off for a few minutes would correct the problem (at least for a few more
minutes). So I suspect there may be other problems waiting to be found,
once
the set is brought back to running condition. Or is that perhaps a fault
of
the EEPROM as well??

150 volts is too high.
Do a google groups search for all the pertitent ctc169 information.
15V run diode problem, all the power supply capacitors, standby power
supply voltages etc.

Set will still go into protect shutdown if the hv splitter is bad due
to the power supply load. Pull the hv lead out of the hv splitter and
check inside for carbon problems, typical additional failure after the
smps was running too high as it is right now.

You also cannot run the ctc169 with the yoke leads disconnected, that
too will cause immediate shutdown.

Set fixed - I replaced the three NTE 588 diodes in the switching power
supply and everything seems great. Funny though, since the diodes checked OK
on a DMM. Oh well now I know that for next time.
Thanks to all for the advice.

"Chris F." wrote in message
...
I hate servicing projection sets, but agreed to this one simply because
business is so slow these days. Right away it's obvious I will need some
help:
When I first tried the set, pushing power causes the set to cycle on and
off
very rapidly (for as long as power is held down). I went through the power
supply and tried replacing some caps; now, pushing power starts the set
for
a half second and it shuts right down - and will not try to start again
until the set is unplugged for a minute. Testing has ruled out HV
shutdown.
The first thing I intend to replace is the EEPROM. While I wait for that
to be ordered, can you give me any other advice? The customer said the set
would also go to a black-and-white picture once in a while, and turning it
off for a few minutes would correct the problem (at least for a few more
minutes). So I suspect there may be other problems waiting to be found,
once
the set is brought back to running condition. Or is that perhaps a fault
of
the EEPROM as well??