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Tube replacement help...
Hello all,
I ordered some replacement tubes for an old radio for a friend. All the tubes seemed ok except for two. One of them is missing a pin that the original had and one has an extra pin that the original did not. My question is do these pins matter? Is it possible all the pins are not being used? Original Tube Replacement Pins 6BG6GA 6BG6G Extra pin 35Y4 35Y4 Missing pin They are going in a Sears Silvertone Radionet. Thanks alot for any info!! M. M. |
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"30W" wrote in message ... Hello all, I ordered some replacement tubes for an old radio for a friend. All the tubes seemed ok except for two. One of them is missing a pin that the original had and one has an extra pin that the original did not. My question is do these pins matter? Is it possible all the pins are not being used? Original Tube Replacement Pins 6BG6GA 6BG6G Extra pin 35Y4 35Y4 Missing pin They are going in a Sears Silvertone Radionet. Thanks alot for any info!! M. M. The 6BG6 is a beam tetrode. According to my data book, the following pins are used Pin 2 - heater Pin 3 - cathode Pin 5 - control grid Pin 7 - heater Pin 8 - screen grid Top cap - anode Pins 1, 4 and 6 have no connection / no function The 35Y4 is a rectifier with the following pins used Pin 1 - heater Pin 2 - anode Pin 4 - heater tap Pin 7 - cathode Pin 8 - heater Pins 3,5 and 6 have no connection / no function It is not at all unusual for these Octal / B8G based tubes to have extra or missing zero-function pins between different manufacturers, so you should not have a problem. Arfa |
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30W wrote: Hello all, I ordered some replacement tubes for an old radio for a friend. All the tubes seemed ok except for two. One of them is missing a pin that the original had and one has an extra pin that the original did not. My question is do these pins matter? Is it possible all the pins are not being used? Original Tube Replacement Pins 6BG6GA 6BG6G Extra pin 35Y4 35Y4 Missing pin They are going in a Sears Silvertone Radionet. Thanks alot for any info!! M. M. Hi M M If it's any help at all, my ever shortening memory has me believing that the last digit of the type indicates the number of pins actually used. Ken |
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Ken Weitzel:
That is an "old wives" tale that I heard in the 60's when I learned electronics with tube equipment .... some might believe would specify the number of elements in the tube but there are so many, many exceptions. On some tubes it works if you count the heater as one element, other tubes count it as two elements.... snd still others, don't count it at all.... in other words, the rule doesn't work reliably. electricitym .. .. |
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30W wrote:
Hello all, I ordered some replacement tubes for an old radio for a friend. All the tubes seemed ok except for two. One of them is missing a pin that the original had and one has an extra pin that the original did not. My question is do these pins matter? Is it possible all the pins are not being used? Original Tube Replacement Pins 6BG6GA 6BG6G Extra pin 35Y4 35Y4 Missing pin They are going in a Sears Silvertone Radionet. Thanks alot for any info!! M. M. news:rec.antiques.radio+phono is where the tube people hang out. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... 30W wrote: Hello all, I ordered some replacement tubes for an old radio for a friend. All the tubes seemed ok except for two. One of them is missing a pin that the original had and one has an extra pin that the original did not. My question is do these pins matter? Is it possible all the pins are not being used? Original Tube Replacement Pins 6BG6GA 6BG6G Extra pin 35Y4 35Y4 Missing pin They are going in a Sears Silvertone Radionet. Thanks alot for any info!! M. M. news:rec.antiques.radio+phono is where the tube people hang out. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Is where SOME tube people hang out. Not all tube equipment is antique, or even vintage. Much is still manufactured now. Arfa |
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Is where SOME tube people hang out. Not all tube equipment is antique, or even vintage. Much is still manufactured now. Arfa I dunno about "much", sure there's some tube equipment still made but most of it is exorbitantly expensive audiophool gear, quite a lot more tube gear is vintage. |
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"James Sweet" wrote in message news:N0D_e.10553$kH3.7919@trnddc01... Is where SOME tube people hang out. Not all tube equipment is antique, or even vintage. Much is still manufactured now. Arfa I dunno about "much", sure there's some tube equipment still made but most of it is exorbitantly expensive audiophool gear, quite a lot more tube gear is vintage. No, I still repair " much " that is currently manufactured and used by musicians as PA equipment. Whilst some of it is quite expensive, at least an equal amount is very reasonably priced, and certainly on a par with similarly rated solid state equipment. Some tubed hi fi is very high end price wise - I currently have a Shanling SP-80 on the bench, and the price tag on that is for an amount that would have bought you a decent secondhand car a few years ago - but there are also reasonably priced items around, and tube designs have been making a real comeback over the last couple of years in the home constructor market. Arfa |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
No, I still repair " much " that is currently manufactured and used by musicians as PA equipment. Whilst some of it is quite expensive, at least an equal amount is very reasonably priced, and certainly on a par with similarly rated solid state equipment. Some tubed hi fi is very high end price wise - I currently have a Shanling SP-80 on the bench, and the price tag on that is for an amount that would have bought you a decent secondhand car a few years ago - but there are also reasonably priced items around, and tube designs have been making a real comeback over the last couple of years in the home constructor market. Arfa There is only a fraction of a percent of new tube gear built per year, compared to even the late '70s when the tube was well on its way out of the mainstream. I'll bet you could stop 100 people on the street and not find more than one person with a tube in anything, other than a CRT, unless you rigged the survey. People used to have 50 to 100 tubes in various pieces of equipment around the house. Even high power radio and TV transmitters ate going all solid state. BTW, don't try to impress me about vacuum tube musical equipment. I serviced it for over 30 years and I know where several Hammond organs, and a few Leslie speakers are in use about a half mile from here. I use to buy 100 6GH8 tubes at a time for TV repair, and had over 5000 new tubes in stock between our two TV shops and five service trucks. I repaired a lot of West, Sunn, Fender, and other tube musical amps. I have worked with subminiature 1 volt tubes all the way up to 65 KW EEV Klystron tubes used in UHF TV transmitters. Those tubes were over $45,000 US, each, plus special freight charges. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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