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"Tim Williams" wrote:
"Ralph Barone" wrote in message news:338871053453128354.323302address_is-invalid.invalid@shawnews... Perhaps not the right place in the thread to say this, but what problems would come up if you modelled a varistor as a behavioural current source with I = k* V^alpha in series with a bulk resistance? I've had pretty good luck with that model (just not in SPICE). I've seen that advertised before in appnotes, but it doesn't make sense. There's no physical reason to have a power law in a semiconducting device, and it suggests way more leakage current than there should be (the breakdown region might be softer than an exponential, but there still has to be an exponential leakage tail in there). Perhaps it's just a crude fit to the random breakdown-ESR pattern. In much the same way as 1/f noise (another odd order power law) can be modeled as a stacked chain of noise sources of random bandwidth. I can't say whether it makes physical sense, but in the limited research I've done into the characteristics of metal oxide varistors, the I = k* V^alpha equation keeps popping up. In the curve matching that I have done (in Excel, mind you), a bit of series resistance kept the curve from flattening out too much at high applied voltages, and also made sense in terms of the bulk resistance of the material (disregarding the grain boundaries where all the non-linear magic occurs). SPICE won't appreciate it, because a negative number to a random power is likely to result in some random complex number. You'd at least need abs(V) to start, then put the sign back on the current later. Most of the derivatives all disappear at V=0, which doesn't help. Definitely, it would need a bit of a wrapper around it (sign() and abs() functions) to make it symmetrical. I tend to post from my phone, so tenseness is rewarded (at least while I'm typing). A symmetrical exponential function, like tanh, would probably do a good job, though being a bit too sharp. As John says, connecting some resistors in series with that, then cleaning it up with a few more of different threshold voltages and ESRs, would do; but some may balk at this solution using "too many lines". ![]() A single-line rendering of that isn't actually possible, because a "resistor in series with an exponential" is a transcendental equation, and has to be solved iteratively by the SPICE engine. Your alternative would be to build a "dulled" tanh function (say, toning down the exponential asymptotes by taking the sqrt or something), but that is also impossible, because the only thing that's "dull" enough to tame an exponential is a log (any polynomial or power law just becomes a constant factor to the exponent). But that simply undoes the exponent entirely, giving flat asymptotes; and doesn't work for negative values (see http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...tanh%28x%29%29 ). Probably, best would be to sit down with a spreadsheet and plug in curves until it works. There's always boring old polynomials, which are probably quite a good idea in this case -- with the right combination of (complex) poles and zeroes, the function can be odd (= gives opposite current for negative argument) and the asymptotes can be linear or quadratic (linear would make sense in that it's the minimum ESR when all semiconducting grains are conducting). With some tweaking, perhaps a non-geometric polynomial could be built that exhibits realistic leakage current, and approximates the V^alpha asymptote. One can also make polynomials from other polynomials (Chebyshev and other named orthogonal polynomial series are typically better for building curve-fits than just throwing coefficients at a geometric series), or from other functions (e.g., the periodic polynomials in cos^n(phi) and such, useful for harmonic analysis). Tim |
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