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Bought an alarm on Saturday
Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? TIA -- Vass |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 -0000, "Vass"
mused: Bought an alarm on Saturday Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? So, how hot is it in the boiler cupboard then? What is the boiler, have you had it serviced ever? Any other problems with it? Personally I'd avoid putting a CO detector in cupboard with a boiler. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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"Lurch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 -0000, "Vass" mused: Personally I'd avoid putting a CO detector in cupboard with a boiler. quick check and "slight" service last december I will put the detector right outside the cupboard door then should it be ceiling height or head height? (is CO2 lighter or heavier than air?) -- Vass |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:35:57 -0000, "Vass" wrote:
"Lurch" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 -0000, "Vass" mused: Personally I'd avoid putting a CO detector in cupboard with a boiler. quick check and "slight" service last december I will put the detector right outside the cupboard door then should it be ceiling height or head height? (is CO2 lighter or heavier than air?) Not being funny but didn't it come with instructions ? Personally I would trust my safety to 2nd hand. The three I've dealt with lately have suggested about 2m away from the possible source and at a height of about 1.5m Andy |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:46:52 +0000, Andy Cap wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:35:57 -0000, "Vass" wrote: "Lurch" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 -0000, "Vass" mused: Personally I'd avoid putting a CO detector in cupboard with a boiler. quick check and "slight" service last december I will put the detector right outside the cupboard door then should it be ceiling height or head height? (is CO2 lighter or heavier than air?) Not being funny but didn't it come with instructions ? Personally I would trust my safety to 2nd hand. The three I've dealt with lately have suggested about 2m away from the possible source and at a height of about 1.5m Andy Whoops - wouldn't ! |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Vass wrote: Bought an alarm on Saturday Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? TIA Does it go off if you put it back in the cupboard but leave the door open? -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message ... In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Vass wrote: Bought an alarm on Saturday Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? TIA Does it go off if you put it back in the cupboard but leave the door open? not tried that, will do exactly that now, watch this space ta -- Vass |
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"Andy Cap" wrote in message
Not being funny but didn't it come with instructions ? Yes, they just show the potential rooms one shoulf go in, but no height mentioned Personally I would trust my safety to 2nd hand. 2nd hand what? Alarm? its brand new (electric with memory) The three I've dealt with lately have suggested about 2m away from the possible source and at a height of about 1.5m OK ta -- Vass |
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"Vass" wrote in message ... Bought an alarm on Saturday So was it the location or do I have a problem? I brought one a few weeks ago for my gas fire which hasn't been serviced wanted to check CO levels as the cat kept falling asleep in front of it [1] ;-) Anyway it always reads 0 (zero) whehter at floor level or on top of the fireplace. Does anyone know of a way of testing these testers, could I create a bit of safe CO to see if I can actually get a reading on my digital readout ? [1] Although I believe this is standard cat behaviour |
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should it be ceiling height or head height? (is CO2 lighter or heavier than air?) -- Vass CO2 is heavier than air. CO is almost the same density as air. This detector is for CO. John |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 +0000, Vass wrote:
Bought an alarm on Saturday Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? TIA Make and Model of boiler? There's a much better than evens chance the boiler is room-sealed and the CO detector is serving no function. IF the boiler isn't (room sealed) then proper checking and regular servicing is a much better approach than CO detectors anyway. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html Gas Fitting Standards Docs he http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards |
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"Ed Sirett" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 +0000, Vass wrote: Bought an alarm on Saturday Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? TIA Make and Model of boiler? There's a much better than evens chance the boiler is room-sealed and the CO detector is serving no function. IF the boiler isn't (room sealed) then proper checking and regular servicing is a much better approach than CO detectors anyway. had the local gas man in he said my balanced flue was not cemented in and the recent wind may have blown the fumes back in He says there was no visible evidence of a problem he relocated my detector just outside the cupboard. May need to cement that flue in properly -- Vass |
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:37:55 UTC, "whisky-dave"
wrote: "Vass" wrote in message ... Bought an alarm on Saturday So was it the location or do I have a problem? I brought one a few weeks ago for my gas fire which hasn't been serviced wanted to check CO levels as the cat kept falling asleep in front of it [1] ;-) Anyway it always reads 0 (zero) whehter at floor level or on top of the fireplace. Does anyone know of a way of testing these testers, could I create a bit of safe CO to see if I can actually get a reading on my digital readout ? Press the test button? [1] Although I believe this is standard cat behaviour Indeed. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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Ed Sirett wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:39:32 +0000, Vass wrote: Bought an alarm on Saturday Sunday morning it goes off I placed it in the airing cupboard next to the boiler It does say in the instructions not to place it in temperatures above 40 deg C. I've put it outside the cupboard now, reset the alarm and its not triggering. So was it the location or do I have a problem? TIA Make and Model of boiler? There's a much better than evens chance the boiler is room-sealed and the CO detector is serving no function. IF the boiler isn't (room sealed) then proper checking and regular servicing is a much better approach than CO detectors anyway. No substitute for servicing however I dispute the claim that the CO detector is serving no purpose. 1. Something can always go wrong with your boiler 2. People have died of CO poisoning from other properties faulty appliances g. |
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Does anyone know of a way of testing these testers, could I create a bit of safe CO to see if I can actually get a reading on my digital readout ? Press the test button? That only tests the circuitry though, not the test element itself. I would love to know a good way of testing the sensors though, I know of people who have held them near their car exhaust but I have no idea how this level of CO would compare with the kind of levels you would get in a property. I think the official way to test them is to hold a lit cigarette 50cm away from them. |
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Gareth Lowe writes: No substitute for servicing however I dispute the claim that the CO detector is serving no purpose. 1. Something can always go wrong with your boiler 2. People have died of CO poisoning from other properties faulty appliances The problem with them is people start using them as the indication a boiler needs servicing, and they just aren't anywhere near reliable enough for that. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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"Andrew Gabriel" andrew@a17 wrote in message ... In article , Gareth Lowe writes: No substitute for servicing however I dispute the claim that the CO detector is serving no purpose. 1. Something can always go wrong with your boiler 2. People have died of CO poisoning from other properties faulty appliances The problem with them is people start using them as the indication a boiler needs servicing, and they just aren't anywhere near reliable enough for that. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] my in laws was placed in a passage near the bedroom doors (bungalow). anyway it started going off and they just unplugged it. one day when I went over I found that when they cooked using the gas hob the thing would register over 120ppm and would be in alarm. I turned the cooker off and went out the same day and bought a new cooker. never gone off since and always reads zero. So in my opinion they do work. can't remember the make/model but was certainly a good buy for them. Dave |
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