Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
PA... Still the same old expensive place...
But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I
pay anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker
stock, but .... these guys and gals...

Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
the bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time
when I got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal
amount. But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended
list. So the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to
come. Lower quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and
Decker (never owned one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.

tiredofspam wrote:
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Lower quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and
Decker (never owned one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.

It really isn't Irwin anymore than it's Marples. It's
Rubbermaid. They bought American Tool, Record both of the others
and a pile of other companies and then destroyed them. Hell, Buck
used to be a good company name.

Dave in Fairfax
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Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
the bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time
when I got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal
amount. But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended
list. So the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to
come. Lower quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and
Decker (never owned one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.

Well I picked up the Marples from Costco the other day. I know nothing about
older Marples or whether the quality has declined. However, I did do some
sharpening this evening. I laid out the marble sill and glued down a strip of
220 and a strip of 320 for the initial lapping of the backs. The 1" took a
minute or so on the 220 to get a little dip out at the tip. All 5 of the others
were flat out of the pack and only took a few strokes on the 220 to remove all
machining marks on the last inch or two of the backs. A few more on the 320 and
they were ready for the waterstones. A few strokes on the backs on the 1500
stone and I put the first on in the sharpening jig. A little work on the 1500
then on to the 6000 and the hair is gone from the back of my left hand. I have
no idea if the edges will last or if the steel is good, but I do know that the
initial machining of these six chisels was better than my expectations.

Dave Hall

I noticed the same thing several weeks ago. The Irwin/Marples are definately
cheaper looking and feeling.
I have a set of "fat max" stanley chisels i have for use at work, and they
are great for that purpose, but i wanted a "good" set to keep in the shop
for finer woodworking tasks. The new Marples, unfortunately, didn't make
the cut .
I decided on the somewhat more pricey Crown chisels.
The sensation i got after lapping and honing them was like my first time
with a woman. Albeit, the lapping and honing took a little longer than the
latter, both were equally satisfying. The feel of the rosewood handles and
silky smooth polished steel, sharp enough to dismember, and still delicate
enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave





"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message
...
Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
PA... Still the same old expensive place...
But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I pay
anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker stock,
but .... these guys and gals...

Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on the
bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time when I
got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal amount.
But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended list. So
the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to come. Lower
quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and Decker (never owned
one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.

Dave Jackson wrote:

enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave

Cigarette hell, at that age it was like "Baby, that was wonderful. Wanna do
it again?"

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If Crowns are better than the Blue Chips, I wouldn't have anything to do
with them. I have never seen a crown anything that was worth having. Nice
looking, lousy steel.

"Dave Jackson" wrote in message
.net...
I noticed the same thing several weeks ago. The Irwin/Marples are
definately
cheaper looking and feeling.
I have a set of "fat max" stanley chisels i have for use at work, and
they
are great for that purpose, but i wanted a "good" set to keep in the shop
for finer woodworking tasks. The new Marples, unfortunately, didn't make
the cut .
I decided on the somewhat more pricey Crown chisels.
The sensation i got after lapping and honing them was like my first time
with a woman. Albeit, the lapping and honing took a little longer than the
latter, both were equally satisfying. The feel of the rosewood handles
and
silky smooth polished steel, sharp enough to dismember, and still delicate
enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave





"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message
...
Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
PA... Still the same old expensive place...
But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I
pay
anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker stock,
but .... these guys and gals...

Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling marks
on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
the
bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time when
I
got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal amount.
But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended list. So
the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to come. Lower
quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and Decker (never
owned
one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.

Out of curiosity, what makes you think this? So far, I thought they've
taken and held an edge very well. --dave

"CW" wrote in message
news
If Crowns are better than the Blue Chips, I wouldn't have anything to do
with them. I have never seen a crown anything that was worth having. Nice
looking, lousy steel.

"Dave Jackson" wrote in message
.net...
I noticed the same thing several weeks ago. The Irwin/Marples are
definately
cheaper looking and feeling.
I have a set of "fat max" stanley chisels i have for use at work, and
they
are great for that purpose, but i wanted a "good" set to keep in the
shop
for finer woodworking tasks. The new Marples, unfortunately, didn't make
the cut .
I decided on the somewhat more pricey Crown chisels.
The sensation i got after lapping and honing them was like my first time
with a woman. Albeit, the lapping and honing took a little longer than
the
latter, both were equally satisfying. The feel of the rosewood handles
and
silky smooth polished steel, sharp enough to dismember, and still
delicate
enough to pare the thinnest shaving. ...AAAAAAHHHHH. Baby, that was
wonderful. Anyone got a cigarette? --dave





"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message
...
Just went to Woodcraft today.. They opened a new franchise in Allentown
PA... Still the same old expensive place...
But hey looked everything over.... good deal on purple heart 4.83 bd ft
Terrible deal on cherry $8.xx / bd ft 4/4... what are they insane... I
pay
anywhere from 3.40 to 5 for 4/4... I could understand the thicker
stock,
but .... these guys and gals...

Anyway I saw the blue chips... they aren't like my blue chips... Irwin
took them over and destroyed what was a decent chisel. The tooling
marks
on this will require many hours to remove. There are tooling marks on
the
bevels the back and the front.... I didn't have to spend much time when
I
got mine, the backs required a little work,the edge bevel normal
amount.
But good luck with these. I am taking them off my recommended list.
So
the costco stuff might have been indicitave of what is to come. Lower
quality... Irwin is just like Stanley... or Black and Decker (never
owned
one) The bottom line and screw the consumer.