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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
. com... Pounds on Wood wrote: I can't fault you for dumping AOL, but the sad truth is that you just cannot get good usenet feed from an ISP these days. I don't know that I agree. I've had pretty good luck with Road Runner for many years. There is the occasional hiccup but it's the exception rather than the rule. Do you really think so? I find that RR sucks. When I lived in NJ, I was with Comcast and they used Giga-News and even though I had a 1 gig download limit (unless I paid extra), the news servers held the posts for many days and even weeks. Here with RR, even the text groups lose posts after only a day or two and forget about the binaries. -- If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving |
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Actually I've been quite happy with Google Groups. Especially since
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. It's almost impossible to complete multi-part
binary files on RR. -- Jeff P. "A ship carrying blue paint collided with a ship carrying red paint. The crew are believed to be marooned." Check out my woodshop at: www.sawdustcentral.com "TBone" wrote in message . com... "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message . com... Pounds on Wood wrote: I can't fault you for dumping AOL, but the sad truth is that you just cannot get good usenet feed from an ISP these days. I don't know that I agree. I've had pretty good luck with Road Runner for many years. There is the occasional hiccup but it's the exception rather than the rule. Do you really think so? I find that RR sucks. When I lived in NJ, I was with Comcast and they used Giga-News and even though I had a 1 gig download limit (unless I paid extra), the news servers held the posts for many days and even weeks. Here with RR, even the text groups lose posts after only a day or two and forget about the binaries. -- If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving |
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"TWS" wrote in message ... d I checked the Supernews site and they claim to do a great job removing spam. Do you think this is the case? My own ISP does nothing that I can tell and I can't access newsgroups while I'm traveling. It seems something like Supernews might be a good solution. TWS I see very little offensive stuff with Supernews. If they could just filter the trolls ... -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:05:13 -0800, wrote:
Reposting again from news.individual.net. Nope, I am actually using Forte Agent Ver. 1.32 (not exactly, 1997 version). I patched it to read "Mozilla 3.0". I have not tried patching Forte Agent Ver 2. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:07:15 GMT, (Charles Max) wrote: On 24 Jan 2005 20:21:29 -0800, wrote: Why not try this post. Beside posting from news.individual.net. What newsreader am I using, Newsreader: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95;1) |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:18:17 -0800, "Pounds on Wood"
wrote: I see very little offensive stuff with Supernews. If they could just filter the trolls ... I prefer they castrate them rather than filtration. Thx for the info. TWS |
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"Pounds on Wood" wrote in
: I see very little offensive stuff with Supernews. If they could just filter the trolls ... Supernews does filter the worst of the trolls. The serious trolls, the ones who's purpose is to disrupt the group, almost invariably crosspost to AUK, the nose, the flonk, etc. Supernews does not allow crossposts to those groups, which has the effect of blocking the trolls. The lesser trolls, who are fixated on a particular subject or poster and stick with one group, aren't as easy to filter. John |
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Old Nick wrote:
On 24 Jan 2005 20:32:38 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email I agree it's sad, and seems silly. But.... I just changed ISPs because the old one's ngs were moribund. They said they were not fixing them. Nobody used them. I said "Well you weren't right, but you may be from here on!" and left. The newsgroups are the same for everybody. What's different is how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. There isn't anything to "fix". But my point is that the ngs seems to be a very little-used resource on the Web. My old ISP has ten of thousands of customers, and they said they had maybe 50 people using the groups on any sort of regular basis. Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. Just got an AOL pop-up message: they're dumping Newsgroups in "early 2005". Sweet sufferin' sumpin or other. I guess I head for another ISP a little more rapidly than I had planned. Like Wednesday. I'd do it today, but I have other chores. Bless 'em all. And then they wonder why they lose customers. Charlie Self "They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2, 2000 -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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B a r r y wrote:
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote: Pounds on Wood wrote: I can't fault you for dumping AOL, but the sad truth is that you just cannot get good usenet feed from an ISP these days. I don't know that I agree. I've had pretty good luck with Road Runner for many years. There is the occasional hiccup but it's the exception rather than the rule. Same with SBC, here in CT. Other parts of the country may vary. I went from IBM (yeah, Big Blue IBM) to SBC in order to get DSL and found that the number of groups carried and the scroll rate were much inferior with SBC. That's when I started using Newsguy. Barry -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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In article , J. Clarke
wrote: Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. 300 - 400 posts per day is not unusual here, in my experience. djb -- "The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B, sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows |
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"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message tone.ca... In article , J. Clarke wrote: Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. 300 - 400 posts per day is not unusual here, in my experience. I signed up recently with giganews (from comcast) and this newsgroup had 250,000 posts to it. And since MS IE can only load a thousand at a time, I needed to download these posts 250 times to clear out the back posts. Anybody know of a quicker way to do this? I am stuck with windoze products (work computer and all). |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... I signed up recently with giganews (from comcast) and this newsgroup had 250,000 posts to it. And since MS IE can only load a thousand at a time, I needed to download these posts 250 times to clear out the back posts. Anybody know of a quicker way to do this? I am stuck with windoze products (work computer and all). Use the "catch up" feature. It's in the Edit menu. -- -Mike- |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... I went from IBM (yeah, Big Blue IBM) to SBC in order to get DSL and found that the number of groups carried and the scroll rate were much inferior with SBC. That's when I started using Newsguy. Just migrated from earthlink to alltel myself, in order to get DSL, and found that alltel carries a lot more groups than earthlink did. It's too soon for me to know about retention rates but then again for archived stuff I find myself a google anyway, so retention beyond a few days doesn't really matter to me. -- -Mike- |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message tone.ca... In article , J. Clarke wrote: Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. 300 - 400 posts per day is not unusual here, in my experience. I signed up recently with giganews (from comcast) and this newsgroup had 250,000 posts to it. And since MS IE can only load a thousand at a time, I needed to download these posts 250 times to clear out the back posts. Anybody know of a quicker way to do this? I am stuck with windoze products (work computer and all). Microsoft IE actually calls on Outlook Express for newsgroup access. To change the default number of headers downloaded at a time click on "Tools" then "Options". Then click on the "Read" tab. In the "News" section of the menu is the number of headers to download at a time. -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply) |
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"Nova" wrote in message ... Lee Michaels wrote: "Dave Balderstone" wrote in message tone.ca... In article , J. Clarke wrote: Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. 300 - 400 posts per day is not unusual here, in my experience. I signed up recently with giganews (from comcast) and this newsgroup had 250,000 posts to it. And since MS IE can only load a thousand at a time, I needed to download these posts 250 times to clear out the back posts. Anybody know of a quicker way to do this? I am stuck with windoze products (work computer and all). Microsoft IE actually calls on Outlook Express for newsgroup access. To change the default number of headers downloaded at a time click on "Tools" then "Options". Then click on the "Read" tab. In the "News" section of the menu is the number of headers to download at a time. I know that. But it maxes out at a thousand. I will go with the catch up command. |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message ... "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... I signed up recently with giganews (from comcast) and this newsgroup had 250,000 posts to it. And since MS IE can only load a thousand at a time, I needed to download these posts 250 times to clear out the back posts. Anybody know of a quicker way to do this? I am stuck with windoze products (work computer and all). Use the "catch up" feature. It's in the Edit menu. Thank you sir!! I always wondered what that command was. I am installing newsgroups on several computers in the next week or so. You have just help me prevent a case of carpal tunnel syndrome. Lee |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 05:18:11 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: I signed up recently with giganews (from comcast) and this newsgroup had 250,000 posts to it. And since MS IE can only load a thousand at a time, I needed to download these posts 250 times to clear out the back posts. Anybody know of a quicker way to do this? I am stuck with windoze products (work computer and all). Agent and Free Agent will download them all, but the catch-up command is the way to go in either case, you really don't need to download all the old headers - and certainly not all the old articles, which I think is what MS wants to do. One benefit to Agent is that all you download is the headers, then you select which articles to retrieve. By the time my filters are done I only have to see about 2/3 of the headers in the group. Another 10% or so get hit with ignores and disappear forever from my sight. Of the rest some are being watched, so I have set it to retrieve those articles automatically, others I just skim down the list and see if there is anything I want to read. If so a quick double click gets the article - if it is an interesting thread I mark it for watching and download the rest of the current posts in that thread. If not, I just leave it alone and when I hit the end of the group I mark all messages read. Next time I do the same. It is amazing to see how quickly you can trim 300+ new messages down to the 30 or so you want to read. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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"Tim Douglass" wrote in message ... Agent and Free Agent will download them all, but the catch-up command is the way to go in either case, you really don't need to download all the old headers - and certainly not all the old articles, which I think is what MS wants to do. To the contrary Tim. Outlook operates just like Agent does in that you can download only header, select the article(s) and then view them on-line or download them for later viewing. One benefit to Agent is that all you download is the headers, then you select which articles to retrieve. By the time my filters are done I only have to see about 2/3 of the headers in the group. Another 10% or so get hit with ignores and disappear forever from my sight. Of the rest some are being watched, so I have set it to retrieve those articles automatically, others I just skim down the list and see if there is anything I want to read. If so a quick double click gets the article - if it is an interesting thread I mark it for watching and download the rest of the current posts in that thread. If not, I just leave it alone and when I hit the end of the group I mark all messages read. Next time I do the same. It is amazing to see how quickly you can trim 300+ new messages down to the 30 or so you want to read. For the most part - very similar to the way Outlook Express works. -- -Mike- |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:19:02 -0800, Tim Douglass
wrote: After you learn how to use Forte Agent or Free Agent, it's so simple. You can reconfigures it to your liking. I have since upgrade to Version2. I believe Forte Agent are Beta testing an upgrade to multi servers capability. My initial $29 investment and another $15 late last year have gave me so much pleasure in many ngs. Never regret it. Agent and Free Agent will download them all, but the catch-up command is the way to go in either case, you really don't need to download all the old headers - and certainly not all the old articles, which I think is what MS wants to do. One benefit to Agent is that all you download is the headers, then you select which articles to retrieve. By the time my filters are done I only have to see about 2/3 of the headers in the group. Another 10% or so get hit with ignores and disappear forever from my sight. Of the rest some are being watched, so I have set it to retrieve those articles automatically, others I just skim down the list and see if there is anything I want to read. If so a quick double click gets the article - if it is an interesting thread I mark it for watching and download the rest of the current posts in that thread. If not, I just leave it alone and when I hit the end of the group I mark all messages read. Next time I do the same. It is amazing to see how quickly you can trim 300+ new messages down to the 30 or so you want to read. Tim Douglass |
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"Tim Douglass" wrote in message ... On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:09:16 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: For the most part - very similar to the way Outlook Express works. It's obviously improved a lot over the last couple of versions. I won't use it for anything because it is incredibly difficult to configure or adjust. It seems like every time a friend of mine has e-mail trouble with it the only solution (suggested by MS, no less) is it un-install and re-install - no, not OE, Windows XP entirely! There is no way to do an un-install on *just* OE! It always leaves too many droppings behind to get a clean re-install. My solution is to just junk it as best I can and install Eudora. The free version of Eudora works as well as OE and the sponsored version is significantly better - and they can both be tweaked and fixed if needed. Indeed - Microsoft's standard reply of uninstall and reinstall is very frustrating. Even more so when most of the time that is not even necessary. It gives their software a bigger blackeye image that it rightfully deserves, and it rightfully deserves quite a bad rap in some respects. Ah hell - I'm getting carried away, aren't I? S'what? Everyone's entitled to get a little carried away once in a while. -- -Mike- |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Old Nick wrote: On 24 Jan 2005 20:32:38 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email I agree it's sad, and seems silly. But.... I just changed ISPs because the old one's ngs were moribund. They said they were not fixing them. Nobody used them. I said "Well you weren't right, but you may be from here on!" and left. The newsgroups are the same for everybody. What's different is how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. This is incorrect. Not every news provider carries every group. -- If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:04:15 -0500, "J. Clarke"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Old Nick wrote: On 24 Jan 2005 20:32:38 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email I agree it's sad, and seems silly. But.... I just changed ISPs because the old one's ngs were moribund. They said they were not fixing them. Nobody used them. I said "Well you weren't right, but you may be from here on!" and left. The newsgroups are the same for everybody. What's different is how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. What's also different is if their server allows me to pick up news messages. If it was amatter of tyhow lomg it held messages, then the answer is "not at all". There isn't anything to "fix". Yes there is. I could not get news messages from one ISP's server. Their database of news was munged. They were not going to fix it. But my point is that the ngs seems to be a very little-used resource on the Web. My old ISP has ten of thousands of customers, and they said they had maybe 50 people using the groups on any sort of regular basis. Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. Yep. Sure. I see about 100+ entries every day. But that's from the whole world's use of that NG, and IME this is a pretty active ng. In the context of the total trafic through my ISP it is peanuts. _They_ said that they had less than 50 users. They have 10,000 customers. Not my words. |
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Old Nick wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:04:15 -0500, "J. Clarke" vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email Old Nick wrote: On 24 Jan 2005 20:32:38 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email I agree it's sad, and seems silly. But.... I just changed ISPs because the old one's ngs were moribund. They said they were not fixing them. Nobody used them. I said "Well you weren't right, but you may be from here on!" and left. The newsgroups are the same for everybody. What's different is how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. What's also different is if their server allows me to pick up news messages. If it was amatter of tyhow lomg it held messages, then the answer is "not at all". I don't understand what you're trying to say here. There isn't anything to "fix". Yes there is. I could not get news messages from one ISP's server. Their database of news was munged. They were not going to fix it. That seems odd. But my point is that the ngs seems to be a very little-used resource on the Web. My old ISP has ten of thousands of customers, and they said they had maybe 50 people using the groups on any sort of regular basis. Dunno about that--right now I'm showing 8000 posts on the wreck alone and I only hold posts on my workstation for a week. Yep. Sure. I see about 100+ entries every day. But that's from the whole world's use of that NG, and IME this is a pretty active ng. In the context of the total trafic through my ISP it is peanuts. However "total traffic" is a meaningless measure. One big graphic generates more traffic than a thousand USENET posts. _They_ said that they had less than 50 users. They have 10,000 customers. Not my words. Which may mean that USENET is unpopular or may mean that 9951 of those 10,000 got disgusted with them and went to Newsguy or one of the other dedicated USENET hosts, of which there are many. -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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TBone wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... Old Nick wrote: On 24 Jan 2005 20:32:38 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self) vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email I agree it's sad, and seems silly. But.... I just changed ISPs because the old one's ngs were moribund. They said they were not fixing them. Nobody used them. I said "Well you weren't right, but you may be from here on!" and left. The newsgroups are the same for everybody. What's different is how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. This is incorrect. Not every news provider carries every group. No provider carries every group and no group is carried by every provider. However the content of a given group is, aside from local filtration and vagaries of propagation, the same for all. -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:24:15 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: No provider carries every group and no group is carried by every provider. However the content of a given group is, aside from local filtration and vagaries of propagation, the same for all. Actually there probably are several thousand of the core groups that are carried on every (or close enough) news provider. You will only see the groups your provider carries. You will also possibly not see articles from some servers because of the way server peering works. Most major servers are pretty well linked, but some of the little ones don't get nearly as good a coverage. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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Tim Douglass wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:24:15 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: No provider carries every group and no group is carried by every provider. However the content of a given group is, aside from local filtration and vagaries of propagation, the same for all. Actually there probably are several thousand of the core groups that are carried on every (or close enough) news provider. Nope. There are many specialized providers out there. Microsoft for example has their own servers for their support groups that carry _only_ those groups and those groups are not generally available elsewhere. The same for Novell and a number of other larger software and hardware vendors. If you're talking about the independent providers and the ISPs then yes, there's large overlap. You will only see the groups your provider carries. Which is one reason to use multiple providers. You will also possibly not see articles from some servers because of the way server peering works. Which comes under the heading of "vagaries of propagation". Most major servers are pretty well linked, but some of the little ones don't get nearly as good a coverage. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Monday 31 Jan 2005 3:37 am, Mark & Juanita scribbled:
Quicken 2002, eh? If you love Tim's problem, you are gonna love the fact that Intuit has decided that your version is about to be "sunsetted" and that you will no longer be able to download financial data from your financial institutions without upgrading to one of their more ad-laden, anti-piracy, phone-home new versions. snip of Qwicked BS & Mark's true and appropriate reaction Since I don't download from my financial institutions, this doesn't really do anything for me other than, in similar manner to Intuit's TurboTax product activation fiasco of a few years ago, motivate me to find a competitive product to which I'll migrate when I have to retire my current Quicken product when I replace my computer or OS in a few years. snip I've been using Qwicked since 1991, when it was a nice, innovative little accounting program, where I didn't have to bother my pretty little head with credits and debits. I especially appreciated the fact that accountants hate it. It was an nice intuitive program that served both my personal & business needs (2 home-based professional businesses, two rental properties, all hopelessly intertwined with personal spending), unlike regular accounting programs (and most accountants) that want your business to be structured to serve the accounting system rather than vice-versa. Like you, I don't download from my financial institutions, so it doesn't matter to me. I never did see the point in downloading transactions, I want to enter them by hand and then check them against the bank/credit card statement. And I don't need most of the gizmos Quicken keeps adding to the program, turning it into bloatware. I've seriously considered moving everything to GNUCash, but it is missing one fundamental feature I need: what Qwicked calls "classes" or what is usually known as profit centres. I need to split, for example, my not inconsiderable fuel oil bill into four (my business portion, GST, my spouse's business, and personal use). And I need to report on it quarterly. Problem with the whole Linux thing, which I otherwise find extremely attractive for all kinds of reasons (note newsreader), is that it's like buying a really cheap but top quality router, which unfortunately only comes with a metric collet. And I have to match profiles with work that others are doing. Also, I like the fact I can go back and change transactions without entering time consuming and confusing adjustments: I have done that on numerous occasions as my business needs changed or I thought of better ways of doing things or realized I made a mistake. So if anyone has a better idea about what we could use to replace Quicken let us know. -- Luigi Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html |
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On Monday 31 Jan 2005 5:00 am, Tim Douglass scribbled:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:01:33 +0000, Luigi Zanasi wrote: Can't you export (i.e. one of the "Print" choices in my Quicken 2002) to a Lotus *.prn (i.e. Comma Delimited Format) and then import into Excel. That's what I do. Or, maybe Quickbooks doesn't do that? You can only export into comma delimited format, which doesn't exactly do the same thing as dropping it into a fully formatted Excel spreadsheet. Point taken. I see now what you are trying to do. -- Luigi Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/humour.html www.yukonomics.ca/wooddorking/antifaq.html |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:18:25 -0800, Larry Blanchard
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email In article , says... Yep. Sure. I see about 100+ entries every day. But that's from the whole world's use of that NG, and IME this is a pretty active ng. In the context of the total trafic through my ISP it is peanuts. Whoa! I'm seeing about 300 and that's with a lot of stuff filtered out. Ok OK. I said 100 _+_! G But seriously. It's still a miniscule portion of total traffic. Both of my ISPs have said that. It's just that one cares more! |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:22:56 -0500, "J. Clarke"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email The newsgroups are the same for everybody. What's different is how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. What's also different is if their server allows me to pick up news messages. If it was amatter of tyhow lomg it held messages, then the answer is "not at all". I don't understand what you're trying to say here. You said that the only difference was how long their particular server holds messages and the quality of the feed they get from their upstream provider. As far as I could tell, the "place where they held their messages" was stuffed and they were not fixing it. Blunt enough? There isn't anything to "fix". Yes there is. I could not get news messages from one ISP's server. Their database of news was munged. They were not going to fix it. That seems odd. See above. They have to store it somewhere. The storage was kaput, munged, distorted, whatever. Yep. Sure. I see about 100+ entries every day. But that's from the whole world's use of that NG, and IME this is a pretty active ng. In the context of the total trafic through my ISP it is peanuts. However "total traffic" is a meaningless measure. One big graphic generates more traffic than a thousand USENET posts. _They_ said that they had less than 50 users. They have 10,000 customers. Not my words. Which may mean that USENET is unpopular or may mean that 9951 of those 10,000 got disgusted with them and went to Newsguy or one of the other dedicated USENET hosts, of which there are many. no. their newsfeed had been great until it collapsed. look. you see 8000 posts in a week, you said? i dont think the wreck gets 1000 a day, but however, those 800 posts come FROM THE WHOLE WORLD. the total posts are a minor fraction of both traffic and number of users/hits ACCORDING TO THE ISPs, not me! nuff. it was their words not mine. given that they were losing my custom because of it, and did not give a damn enough to fix it and yet are doing very well, WTF should i argue. the number of people leaving because of news feed was stuff all. |
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