I seem to recall that Delta, 15 years ago (or so) made a machine which
one could flip (or manually move) the motor unit from the top to under
the table.
The arm, which held the motor would then hold a pin, directly above the
output shaft of the motor.
I think it was low in horsepower.. like 2 or 3 hp.
As I rip down some cobwebs from this old brain, I think it was called a
RU 50, UR 50, U-50..maybe it was 80.
The machine made a whole lot of sense to me at the time, but lost touch
with the catalogue.... I'm thinking maybe as far back as 20 years ago.

(Wouldn't be the first time that a company like Delta would develop a
machine which wouldn't sell because it was ahead of its time.)

I'd like to find out the number of that unit so I can try to hunt one
down and see if they have become affordable...
I have DAGS'd the snot out this thing...that 'router' word makes my
searches go sideways to computer stuff..

I would appreciate it if somebody could gimme a 'thattaway' on this
thing.

Thanks,

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Rob

Robatoy wrote:
I seem to recall that Delta, 15 years ago (or so) made a machine which
one could flip (or manually move) the motor unit from the top to under
the table.

It was closer to the 1968(ish) to 1970's period. It was a
design they'd bought from Duro of "smaller woodworking
machine fame".

The arm, which held the motor would then hold a pin, directly above the
output shaft of the motor.
I think it was low in horsepower.. like 2 or 3 hp.

That's about correct but it was closer to the 2(ish) HP
range (maybe less) than the 3 HP range.

As I rip down some cobwebs from this old brain, I think it was called a
RU 50, UR 50, U-50..maybe it was 80.

The RU's were/are Invicta (Brazil). The one you are looking
for was US made.

The machine made a whole lot of sense to me at the time, but lost touch
with the catalogue.... I'm thinking maybe as far back as 20 years ago.

And some though I suspect it was sold up until the late
70's.

(Wouldn't be the first time that a company like Delta would develop a
machine which wouldn't sell because it was ahead of its time.)

Ditto that thought. Stanley (actually Carter) had one of
the first small over arms back in the 30's. Bryco had an
over arm for a router back in the 70's.. Bosch (at the time
they bought the Stanley power tool line) sold one also.
There are others but it's like 4:43 AM and I'd need more
coffee to research the rest.

I'd like to find out the number of that unit so I can try to hunt one
down and see if they have become affordable...

Try the OWWM. Look at the Delta section. Look for catalogs
from the 60's/70's. Also, look at the OWWM Photo Index and
see if there's one there. If you don't scare up the model
number you can ping me later and I'll look it up (when I'm
not rushing for the door).

I have DAGS'd the snot out this thing...that 'router' word makes my
searches go sideways to computer stuff..

A'yup. You get all kinds of stuff for Cisco. How many HP
is their stuff?

I would appreciate it if somebody could gimme a 'thattaway' on this
thing.

Like I said...

By the way, I'd had a chance to buy one without motor. I
called Delta and they could still supply the motor but it
was somewheres around a grand. The machines do come up on
eBay from time to time. Usually those are wrong cost for
me.

UA100, who also wanted one...

In article ,
Unisaw A100 wrote:

OWWM

Yuppers. Found a similar Rockwell.
http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=1938

# 43-502

Now doesn't that make sense as an all around machine?

Realllly scary is that I see brushes? Can't be an induction motor, cuz
you wouldn't get the speed unless you jacked up the line frequency with
an MG set... ( I suppose some kinda freaky planetary gears is
possible..but to get 20KRPM??)
Naaa.. them's brushes.

Somebody should revisit that concept.

Oh, and thank you, kind sir.

0?0
Rob

Of course there is the "poor man's" pin router right
over he

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...=1,43053,43885



Robatoy wrote:

Somebody should revisit that concept.

Oh, and thank you, kind sir.

Search on "repulsion-induction motor" and your mystery will be solved.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Unisaw A100 wrote:

OWWM

Yuppers. Found a similar Rockwell.
http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=1938

# 43-502

Now doesn't that make sense as an all around machine?

Realllly scary is that I see brushes? Can't be an induction motor, cuz
you wouldn't get the speed unless you jacked up the line frequency with
an MG set... ( I suppose some kinda freaky planetary gears is
possible..but to get 20KRPM??)
Naaa.. them's brushes.

Somebody should revisit that concept.

Oh, and thank you, kind sir.

In article , "George" george@least
wrote:

Search on "repulsion-induction motor" and your mystery will be solved.

Still, 2 poles 3600 rpm max, 4 poles 1800 rpm max. (In north America 60
Hz)
A repulsion-induction motor has better torque during wind-up, and due to
'slip' the full pole/rpm relationship falls by the wayside.

If you want to go faster than 3600 rpm with an ac motor, you need to
increase the line frequency.....repulsion-induction motor or not.
CNC routers, trim routers on edgebanding machines and so on all have
frequency converters, usually done with an electric motor driving a
generator.
Aircraft often run on 400Hz line frequency.
Unless I'm wrong, which happens all the time.

George wrote:
Search on "repulsion-induction motor" and your mystery will be solved.


This one isn't R/I, just a big ass router motor.

UA100

Robatoy wrote:
Yuppers. Found a similar Rockwell.
http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=1938

# 43-502

That one lists 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" somethings. I suspect
it's the router collet but I was just thumbing a 1971
catalog (1) and it lists a 1/4" router collet and of course
a 1/2" shaper shaft. I'd watch for this if you find one.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, the one on the OWWM site
is/was built after 1974. See the peace sign Rockwell
International logo.

Now doesn't that make sense as an all around machine?

I for one have always lusted for one of these.

Realllly scary is that I see brushes? Can't be an induction motor, cuz
you wouldn't get the speed unless you jacked up the line frequency with
an MG set... ( I suppose some kinda freaky planetary gears is
possible..but to get 20KRPM??)
Naaa.. them's brushes.

Just a big-ass(ish) router motor.

Somebody should revisit that concept.

Agreed.

Oh, and thank you, kind sir.

Nottaprob.

(1) In the '71 catalog the machine is noted as "New" but
I'm not sure how many years it was "New" if you know what I
mean.

UA100

"Robatoy" wrote in message
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In article , "George" george@least
wrote:

Search on "repulsion-induction motor" and your mystery will be solved.

Still, 2 poles 3600 rpm max, 4 poles 1800 rpm max. (In north America 60
Hz)
A repulsion-induction motor has better torque during wind-up, and due to
'slip' the full pole/rpm relationship falls by the wayside.


If not R/I and pulleys, the number of windings should have revealed the
nature of the motor.