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Perhaps seperate group for INSPIRATION posts.
There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but there are still a lot of them. Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic. I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. |
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Yes, and they're all from the same person, with the same word in the
subject. Simple to configure to ignore in any good newsreader if that's your preference. I don't - and perhaps others - don't use a traditional newsreader app but browse via a web browser (groups.google.com). I have seen posts in the past where people comment on the volume of messages and bandwidth concerns so I don't see why this question is so unusual. I am NOT attacking him or his posts simply asking - what I thought - was a reasonable question. So, let me get this straight. You agree that they're on-topic, Yes you point out that they are consistantly marked, Yes and you want him to go away with them? NO!! Wouldn't it be easier to ignore them, either manually or programmatically? It IS fairly easy to ignore them but I was mearly asking if perhaps we should consider creating a dedicated group/list for them as there are quite a few of them. JOAT, if you'd like some webspace to put your links, in addition to posting them here, I'll get you set up. And I think the site would get traffic. |
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Dave, wow - I apologize that I have very clearly offended you on this
one. However, I think that you are missing my point. I mean NO ill-will towards him and I am not asking him to change what he does for me (regardelss of my choice of news interface) but decided to post a question to the group for consideration. Again, I mearly asked what I thought was a reasonable question to the broader group. The posts so far have been overwhelmingly in favor of his continuing to post his inspiration messages here. Great, the question I asked appears to have been aswered. As far as my asking HIM to go away - not the case at all. He posts other things besides the inspiration posts to this group just like everyone else does. And to address your point of "...how your choice of a ****-poor interface to read Usenet should dictate that a useful resource is made less useful for everyone.." - I actually think another newsgroup for THIS TYPE OF POST (not just posts from this person) would make the resource more useful to everyone as it would be more easily searchable etc. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Dave, wow - I apologize that I have very clearly offended you on this one. Dave tends to like to be the one that makes these type suggestions and you apparently beat him to it. |
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To all the comments "get a normal newsreader", you live in a
cloistered, home based world. I travel every week and I'm on hotel and client networks throughout the week. There is NO way to use an offline newsreader in these firewalled, restricted environments. You have to use a web based approach to reading. So what's the big deal? Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other messages buried in there. Selfish? You bet. I'm not alone. There are thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. 35 a day is out of balance. Bob |
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In article .com,
wrote: There are thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. Usenet is not the web. The fact that there are web interfaces to access Usenet is irrelevant to Usenet, IMO. The problem you have is that you are using the wrong interface to access news groups, plain and simple. The reasons *why* you are using that interface is also irrelevant to Usenet, IMO. You can ride a moped on the freeway, but don't expect other drivers to slow down to 25 mph so you can read their licence plates. -- "The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B, sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows |
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Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says:
snip And I think the site would get traffic. OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and rec.woodworking.JOAT. Will it be moderated? LMAO JOAT Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people what they need to get. - Albert |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:56:02 -0500, (J T)
wrote: Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says: snip And I think the site would get traffic. OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and rec.woodworking.JOAT. Will it be moderated? LMAO yeah, bro.. and you're elected.. *g* mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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J T wrote: Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says: snip And I think the site would get traffic. OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and rec.woodworking.JOAT. Will it be moderated? LMAO Why don't we each have our own NG, and that way there will never be any disagreements! We can just all sit around and talk to ourselves! |
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"Larry Bud" wrote in
ups.com: J T wrote: Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says: snip And I think the site would get traffic. OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and rec.woodworking.JOAT. Will it be moderated? LMAO Why don't we each have our own NG, and that way there will never be any disagreements! We can just all sit around and talk to ourselves! There are those of us who do not need newsgroups for that. Coth |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:39:44 -0500, J T wrote:
Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 6:12pm (EST+5) (Dave*Hinz) offered: snip JOAT, if you'd like some webspace to put your links, in addition to posting them here, I'll get you set up. Thanks Dave, but no thanks. I don't save 99.9% of any links I find. For any I want to check later, I normally cruise the archives. Mind if I harvest 'em from the archives and stick 'em on a page, if I get bored? Full credit to you and all that... Dave |
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I like the way that JOAT does his internet search results - easy to pass by,
but easy to identify the ones that might hold something of interest to me. And I have even benefited from a few of them in finding something that was of use to me, or maybe just enjoying a comment that JOAT may have posted with the link. Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post here, and thank him for doing so. Fred Bearman Port Huron, Michigan wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. |
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Fred wrote:
Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post here, and thank him for doing so. Ditto. Thanks, JOAT Barry |
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"Fred" wrote:
I like the way that JOAT does his internet search results - easy to pass by, but easy to identify the ones that might hold something of interest to me. And I have even benefited from a few of them in finding something that was of use to me, or maybe just enjoying a comment that JOAT may have posted with the link. Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post here, and thank him for doing so. Hear! Hear! JOAT is as thoughtful as possible in using subject headers that allow the reader to decide whether to read. While the nature of the posts is a distinct subset (rec.woodworking.plans?) the volume is small enough to easily stay in the larger, on-topic group, and is too small, IMHO, to warrant a group of its own. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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In article ,
"Fred" wrote: I like the way that JOAT does his internet search results - easy to pass by, but easy to identify the ones that might hold something of interest to me. And I have even benefited from a few of them in finding something that was of use to me, or maybe just enjoying a comment that JOAT may have posted with the link. Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post here, and thank him for doing so. Fred Bearman Port Huron, Michigan wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. *waving* "FRED!!" "Over here! I can see your house from here!" 0¿0 Rob Sarnia, ON PS. I know a shortcut to a Lee Valley store. 55mins, tops. |
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I vote for JOAT to stick around and keep posting here. I can read or ignore
as I please thanks to the clear subject lines. Andy http://www.myweb.cableone.net/andya/ wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but there are still a lot of them. Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic. I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. |
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wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but there are still a lot of them. Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic. I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. I don't think we need another group for this type of post. They are as "on topic" as you can get to a woodworking newsgroup so why not keep them here. I don't see bandwidth as an issue because all you're getting in the subject line. Very little traffic there. What JOAT could do to reduce the number of posts would be to do an 'Inspiration' post and list all the stuff he finds in that one post. But, I'm not his momma so I can't tell him what to do. Just a thought. :-) Bryan |
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You are new here aintcha.
Maybe some suggestions after you see how this group works. wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but there are still a lot of them. Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic. I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. |
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not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)
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Not to worry - you just had a run in with someone who has to have a comment
on just about every post made here. And you caught him on a good day.....;-) wrote in message ups.com... not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-) |
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wrote in message ups.com... not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-) Well Dave is our local self appointed net nanny. I have been here for 4 or 5 years and when he came on board a few months ago he was suggesting how I should post. I still post as I wish. |
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wrote in message ups.com... not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-) There are pile's o plenty in this group. |
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wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of changes here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for the spot. Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote you in. Most of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure how to go about it. I hope you can and will help us. Thanks, Ed |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:59:20 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of changes here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for the spot. Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote you in. Most of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure how to go about it. or whether or not anyone will pay attention to one.. *eg* mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On 19 Jan 2005 10:06:26 -0800, wrote:
I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. This one keeps coming back from time to time - kinda like herpes. I like checking out JOAT's stuff - some of them are funny - some of them are dumb - some of them are cool. I can tell you this much for sure - JOAT's gonna keep on doing what he does no matter what anybody else thinks - and that's what I like about the man. tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email) http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage) |
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On 19 Jan 2005 10:06:26 -0800, wrote:
There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but there are still a lot of them. Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic. I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. Personally, I like JOAT's stuff right where it is. This group is a bit like eating chow mein - you can encounter just about anything in it, and that's part of what makes it good. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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While we are on the topic of INSPIRATION, does any one have the link for the
pointy stick? :^) wrote in message oups.com... There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but there are still a lot of them. Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic. I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics). Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts? Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place to put them as opposed to the larger group. |
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