No, bad idea, VERY bad!

wrote:

There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
there are still a lot of them.

Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).

Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?

Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
to put them as opposed to the larger group.

writes:

Personally, I like JOAT's stuff right where it is. This group is a bit
like eating chow mein - you can encounter just about anything in it,
and that's part of what makes it good.

Amen!!!

If you want a collection of those pages, do what I do, copy and paste
those of interest into a text file for future reference. If they aren't
of interest, just pass them by. I view them like opening a wrapped gift .
.. . we never know what we are going to get, but they are all related to
woodworking.

Frankly, I love em!

Glenna

"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message

alt.woodworking.plans already exists. Seems like nobody much is using

It's not a binary newsgroup so I have to ask, would it be appropriate for
the posting of binaries? Usenet etiquette would say no, but that doesn't
deter everybody these days.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:56:02 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says:
snip And I think the site would get traffic.

OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and
rec.woodworking.JOAT.

Will it be moderated? LMAO


yeah, bro.. and you're elected.. *g*



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:59:20 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
most seem to be posted by the same person.


Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?

I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of changes
here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for the spot.
Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote you in. Most
of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure how to go about
it.
or whether or not anyone will pay attention to one.. *eg*



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:49:30 -0500, Robatoy
wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:

There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
there are still a lot of them.

Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).

Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?

Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
to put them as opposed to the larger group.


JOAT...thanks, man. I appreciate what you're doing for us.
I think Larry does too.

0¿0

Rob

Most of us like JOAT, cuz he's as off the wall as the rest of us...

Maybe we could get him knighted???

Sir JOAT...
I like it..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 7:13pm (Paul=A0Kierstead) unwisely
says:
snip While you are at it, you could try emailing him privately and
asking for some as well.

You are a vile and dispicable person, and the Woodworking Gods are
on their way to the God of Spam's place as I type.
You'll get mail!



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

In article , Upscale
wrote:

It's not a binary newsgroup so I have to ask, would it be appropriate for
the posting of binaries? Usenet etiquette would say no, but that doesn't
deter everybody these days.

Usually it's your news provider/ISP who determines whether or not you
can post a binary to a non-binary group. Any responsible one won't
allow it.

djb

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

To all the comments "get a normal newsreader", you live in a
cloistered, home based world. I travel every week and I'm on hotel and
client networks throughout the week. There is NO way to use an offline
newsreader in these firewalled, restricted environments. You have to
use a web based approach to reading. So what's the big deal?

Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration
posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other
messages buried in there. Selfish? You bet. I'm not alone. There are
thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the
road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. 35 a day is out of
balance.

Bob

On 20 Jan 2005 17:02:57 -0800, wrote:

To all the comments "get a normal newsreader", you live in a
cloistered, home based world. I travel every week and I'm on hotel and
client networks throughout the week. There is NO way to use an offline
newsreader in these firewalled, restricted environments. You have to
use a web based approach to reading. So what's the big deal?

Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration
posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other
messages buried in there. Selfish? You bet. I'm not alone. There are
thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the
road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. 35 a day is out of
balance.

Bob


I travel a fair amount and stay in cheesy places like Hampton Inn and
Holiday Inn Express.

I've never had a problem using Agent in any of these places.


tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

Thu, Jan 20, 2005, 5:02pm (EST-3)
claims:
snip Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!)
inspiration posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to
find other messages buried in there. Selfish? You bet. I'm not alone.
There are thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools
on the road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. 35 a day is out
of balance.

Nine screenfulls? Let's see, 35 posts divided by 9 would be
slightly under 4 posts per screen. Small screen? They were not all in
one lump sum, there were other posts in between.

Thousands on rec.woodworking? Probably not.

Balance? 35 inspiration posts in one day was a one time deal.
Probably. It was a good day. Of course, on a good day, when I was
doing a lot of personal searches, I have been know to post about that
many free plans in one day. Nothing to bitch about really, in the past
we've probably gotten more than that in obscene trolls posts in one day
- on many days. I figure my inspirational posts are better than that,
any day.



JOAT
Charity ain't giving people what you wants to give, it's giving people
what they need to get.
- Albert

In article .com,
wrote:

There are
thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the
road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance.

Usenet is not the web. The fact that there are web interfaces to access
Usenet is irrelevant to Usenet, IMO.

The problem you have is that you are using the wrong interface to
access news groups, plain and simple. The reasons *why* you are using
that interface is also irrelevant to Usenet, IMO.

You can ride a moped on the freeway, but don't expect other drivers to
slow down to 25 mph so you can read their licence plates.

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

Usenet is not the web? Nobody said it was.

Tom,

What source of newsgroups do you subscribe to? Can you get ABPW on the
road? I'll look into agent. Many of the networks I am on block the
ports used by newsreaders - especially client networks.

Tom,

What source of newsgroups do you subscribe to? Can you get ABPW on the
road? I'll look into agent. Many of the networks I am on block the
ports used by newsreaders - especially client networks.

Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Thousands in rec.woodworking? Who said that? I didn't. I said
thousands who enjoy newgroup(s).

On 20 Jan 2005 18:09:27 -0800, wrote:

Tom,

What source of newsgroups do you subscribe to? Can you get ABPW on the
road? I'll look into agent. Many of the networks I am on block the
ports used by newsreaders - especially client networks.


My primary source is uni-berlin. No binaries.

My secondary source is what Comcast provides, which I believe is
Giganews. Good retention on binaries.

My tertiary source is TeraNews. Unpredictable service but is free
(although I believe they have instituted a low one time fee since I
signed on with them).

I've really never had a problem getting through to the Wreck on
uni-berlin on the road, although, as you have experienced, there may
be a problem with providers who use password protocols that don't get
along with the hotel interface. This also happens to me when I try to
access Giganews or TeraNews at work.

When this happens I get an error message that I can't defeat.

HTH




tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

Oh, one more thing - I assumed you were using broadband at the hotels.
You weren't using dial up by any chance were you? I've never had a
problem with dialup to my ISP from anywhere - I just can't stand to use
it, especially when some of the hotels charge $1.00 for each phone
call. More and more of the hotels are going all wireless. I use
earthlink at home and they simply will not allow you to access
newsgroups in any manner unless you are on their network - impossible
on the road unless you dialup. Ptooey!

Bob

On 20 Jan 2005 18:44:30 -0800, wrote:

Oh, one more thing - I assumed you were using broadband at the hotels.
You weren't using dial up by any chance were you? I've never had a
problem with dialup to my ISP from anywhere - I just can't stand to use
it, especially when some of the hotels charge $1.00 for each phone
call. More and more of the hotels are going all wireless. I use
earthlink at home and they simply will not allow you to access
newsgroups in any manner unless you are on their network - impossible
on the road unless you dialup. Ptooey!

Bob


I carry around an AOL Trial CD as an emergency backup but the places
that I stay in are mostly on broadband. Plenty of hotels don't charge
for local calls and AOL has that pretty well covered.

Sometimes I carry a Sprint Cellular wireless card that plugs into the
PCMCIA slot but the throughput is usually slow.

I have a lot more problem maintaining a connection to our remote ERP
interface when I'm on the road than I do with the Wreck. It's Axapta,
and if you work for a company that is thinking of using it - tell them
not to bother.



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

bluemax1811 asks:

Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Long time ago. Check the names people call Microsoft and AOL for examples.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

In article .com, wrote:


Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration
posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other
messages buried in there.

How hard is it to go to the Advanced Search page, and type the word
"inspiration" in the without the words block, before you click on Search?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

J T wrote:
Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says:
snip And I think the site would get traffic.

OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and
rec.woodworking.JOAT.

Will it be moderated? LMAO


Why don't we each have our own NG, and that way there will never be any
disagreements! We can just all sit around and talk to ourselves!

wrote:

Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Almost instantly. Need convincing? Visit http://www.stallman.org
and ask the self-styled "Guardian of Software Morality" himself
(requires a strong stomach.)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

"Larry Bud" wrote in
ups.com:


J T wrote:
Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says:
snip And I think the site would get traffic.

OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and
rec.woodworking.JOAT.

Will it be moderated? LMAO


Why don't we each have our own NG, and that way there will never be any
disagreements! We can just all sit around and talk to ourselves!



There are those of us who do not need newsgroups for that.

Coth

Cothian wrote:
"Larry Bud" wrote in
ups.com:


J T wrote:
Wed, Jan 19, 2005, 10:32am (EST-3) says:
snip And I think the site would get traffic.

OK, let's vote on splitting the group. Rec.woodworking, and
rec.woodworking.JOAT.

Will it be moderated? LMAO


Why don't we each have our own NG, and that way there will never be
any disagreements! We can just all sit around and talk to
ourselves!



There are those of us who do not need newsgroups for that.

Especially when the tea cups are so small, oops, here comes another wave.

Let's just say it wasn't such a hot idea and drip it, okay?

Josie







Coth

wrote:
not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)

Don't take it too personally. A while back there was
a particularly obscene and persistent troll that was
attacking JOAT for no logical reason I could ever see.
It got quite bad for a while and I suppose folks here
may be a little quick to circle the wagons if it
seems like someone might be starting that up again.
One of the troll's favorite things was to post a complaining
response to every one of JOAT's inspiration posts.
So, you hit a little close to a sore spot there.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:43:08 -0600, Dave Balderstone
wrote:

"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows


language is a virus

In article ,
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:43:08 -0600, Dave Balderstone
wrote:

"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows


language is a virus

Burma!

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows