So Steve, you thinking of coming out with a "Monster Plane"?

only if I can afford the court fee's (G) hey will they go after monster trucks
too???

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Robatoy wrote:

Will I get a better cut on my TS if I park it on pennies? It is a moving
coil, after all...

You will get a better cut on your TS if you park it on pennies colored with
a green magic marker.

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Charlie Self wrote:

Well, hell. I'm gonna start a suit, nail everyone who uses my name in
their business. Start with Self magazine, I guess and motivate from there.

Sue everybody on earth. Everyone touches himSELF or herSELF at some point.
Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his income for life.

Wash the money though.

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Silvan writes:

Charlie Self wrote:

Well, hell. I'm gonna start a suit, nail everyone who uses my name in
their business. Start with Self magazine, I guess and motivate from there.

Sue everybody on earth. Everyone touches himSELF or herSELF at some point.
Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his income for life.

Wash the money though.

Yeah. Think of it, though. A way to get even for all the moronic jokes on my
name that I've heard since I was old enough to listen, though after I was six,
it was all repetition. Amazing how many witty people are witless in such areas.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:55:57 -0700, Mark & Juanita
wrote:


Hmmm, wonder how well paid Anderson's lawyers are? They've been around
selling "Anderson Windows" for what, a couple millenia before Billy G was
even a gleam in IBM's eyes?

Seems like they were made to change from their original name of,
"Andersen".

http://www.andersenwindows.com/



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http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

Robatoy writes:

In article ,
Paul Kierstead wrote:


[snippo]


The sell short lenghts of "premium" optical cable for gods
sake.

The prey on the insecurities of the buying public and enhancing the lies
with bull****. " You NEED this cable to PROTECT your investment so get
MAXIMUM enjoyment for your MONEY. You MUST buy these wires and also buy
the EXTENDED WARRANTY.

It's immoral. Marketing based on lies.

And that's marketing as we all know it.

But most of this thread has served to do one thing: make me glad I'm tone deaf.
Never thought that would happen.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:20:57 -0800, "mp" wrote:

| More that likely either the tests were faulty of the reviewers had tin
| ears. Probably a combination of both.
| No. they forgot to put the magnets on the wires. You get 25 decibels more
| per mile, per room, with magnets.
|
|Speaking of magnets, very thin (and cheap) pure copper magnet wire assembled
|with decent plugs and the correct topology makes for some dammed fine
|interconnects.

I can't help myself and must ask; what is "the correct topology" for
an audio frequency interconnect?
|

"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
"Swingman"
"mark" wrote in message
In the studio, every mixing console worth its salt has a "talent"
button.
The console in most cRAP studios is built around a bank of them.

They don't work too well, in that case.....

Acutally, its a matter of perspective ... you say that because you've
only
ever heard the final mix, with the switch ON!

So you're saying the "talent" button is actually a filter that takes the
goodness out?


Not quiet, Mark ... "perspective" - You've just don't appreciate it when
it's ON, because you never heard it with it OFF.

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"Charlie Self" wrote in message

It's immoral. Marketing based on lies.

And that's marketing as we all know it.

Unfortunately, not just marketing ...


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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message

Check around - you'll find more than a few players who have preferences
for
battery type based on what they hear. Mostly it's because of the effect
that the brand of battery's decay had on the pedal. It's more common than
you think.

Lots of experience with musicians, Mike? You gotta watch'em ... they'll have
you believing anything you're gullible enough to swallow, and someone has
definitely pulled your leg.

What they didn't clue you into is that the very idea itself has been a
source of derision and jokes amongst damn near every musician since effects
pedals were invented.

--
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Last update: 11/06/04

"Silvan" wrote in message

Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his income for life.

Wash the money though.

If I had to pay a fee for every time I touched myself I'd not only be blind,
but broke!

Robatoy wrote:

It's immoral. Marketing based on lies.

Yeah, but the alternative is that movie... I think it was called "Funny
People." Or maybe "Crazy People." That was one of the funniest movies
I've ever seen.

Jaguar - for men who like getting hand jobs from women they barely know

Porsche - too small to get laid in, but you'll get laid the moment you step
out of it

American - fewer people die in plane crashes on our airline than any other

Volvo - boxy, but good

I wish I could remember more of these. It's amazing that I can remember
this many though. Man, I haven't seen that since about three lifetimes
ago.

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Thanks for the idea. My legally Trade Marked and Copy righted name is
"Sweet Sawdust". Just think what I could get from an on topic post from
this group, or any wood working magazine.


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Well, hell. I'm gonna start a suit, nail everyone who uses my name in
their
business. Start with Self magazine, I guess and motivate from there.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise
above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

For the benefit of those of us wanting to upgrade speakers, but don't have
the knowledge to "know what we don't know", what are the brands that rival
Bose in sound?

I have to answer that two different ways. If you're looking to make a
jump into the audiophile range (sorry for being a bit vague here, if I
could define this term I would!) and thinking Bose might be
entry-level, you couldn't do wrong with looking at Paradigm, B&W, or
NHT. (I have an all-Paradigm setup and couldn't be happier -- and I'm a
very picky guy when it comes to music and for home theater they are
very impressive also.)

If, however, you're not looking to move into the audiophile category
and are looking for the best consumer-level speakers (where Bose is
certainly better than a lot of stuff out there) I'd pick Polk or
Infinity over Bose any day. You might spend a little bit more but the
upgrade in sound is well worth it.

In the end I think there are two basic rules to follow when choosing
speakers:

1.) The speakers should be considered the *most* important choice when
purchasing or upgrading a system. Not that the amplifier has no impact
on sound, but the speakers have way more influence over how your system
ultimately performs, and too manyh people purchase their receiver/amp
first and then look for speakers to "fit it." And *never* buy the
all-in-one boxes (you know, where you can get a complete home theater
for $299 or whatever). Figure out your budget, select your speakers
first and then worry about the receiver, etc.

2.) If it sounds good in *your room* then it is good. And if that means
Bose, then by all means buy Bose. Look for a dealer that offers in-home
trial (hint: you won't get this from a Big Box retailer like Best Buy
or Circuit City) of either the speakers you purchase, or demo loaners.
Reputable audio dealers understand and accomodate this important
practice.

Charlie Self wrote:

Sue everybody on earth. Everyone touches himSELF or herSELF at some
point. Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his income
for life.

Wash the money though.

Yeah. Think of it, though. A way to get even for all the moronic jokes on
my name that I've heard since I was old enough to listen, though after I
was six, it was all repetition. Amazing how many witty people are witless
in such areas.

Oh yeah, I can definitely relate. My last name has cause no end of grief
too. Especially when the McIntosh computer came out. I've never been able
to figure out the logic behind that one.

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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his income for
life.

Wash the money though.

If I had to pay a fee for every time I touched myself I'd not only be
blind, but broke!

You wouldn't have to be broke. Sell the hair on your palms to wig makers.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

Wes Stewart wrote:

I can't help myself and must ask; what is "the correct topology" for
an audio frequency interconnect?

Hopefully a nekkit wimminz interconnecting the audio with her topology off.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

"Brian" wrote in message
...
Companies like Monster Cable depend on people's
ignorance
for their continued success.

or, to put it another way, Monster Cable is to cabling as Bose is to
speakers.
8^)

gotta disagree with that. monster cable is good stuff, high quality, but
overpriced. bose speakers have the overpriced part down pat, but haven't
figured out the quality portion yet.

i'm surprised nobody's asked yet - is there a good substitute (i.e.
functional equivalent) for monster cable? i use 'em, and i'm not about to
cut mine up, but i'd like other options.

as for speakers (OT) - boston acoustics are my preference.

jon e

Golf clubs, marital aids and stereos are all sold the same way, with wild
claims and exhorbitant prices. The bottom line is, if you think it works, it
works.
When I get in these discussions about MP3s I always have to point out that
where you listen to something makes more difference that what you are listening
to. If you are in a Jeep with 75-80 dB of ambient noise, I doubt you can hear
the oxygen in your cables or the difference between a 320k rip and a 128k rip.

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:16:26 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Personally I think Best Buy ought to drop that product line, but making
money on cables seems to be a successful marketing strategy at this point
(go down to CompUSA, find any Belkin cable, write down the price, the name,
and the SKU, then plug those into Froogle).

I personally go to Wal-Mart for most of my cable needs (I don't do any
heavy duty editing or have an expensive speaker system right now. so I
don't care about the quality so much). What I don't get is why $15 USB
cable at Wal-Mart costs $30 in BestBuy/Circuit
City/CompUSA/OfficeMax/Depot/Staples. That's a *HUGE* price difference
for the exact same product. Most other things are only about 10-30%
cheaper in Wal-mart than they are in bigger stores.

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:01:28 -0500, Silvan
wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:

I can't help myself and must ask; what is "the correct topology" for
an audio frequency interconnect?

Hopefully a nekkit wimminz interconnecting the audio with her topology off.

I'm warning you Silvan, the case of Johnson's Wax I can handle, the case
of Windex that your posts are requiring may be a different thing entirely.
:-)



+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:09:18 -0500, Brian wrote:

For the benefit of those of us wanting to upgrade speakers, but don't have
the knowledge to "know what we don't know", what are the brands that rival
Bose in sound?

I have to answer that two different ways. If you're looking to make a
jump into the audiophile range (sorry for being a bit vague here, if I
could define this term I would!) and thinking Bose might be
entry-level, you couldn't do wrong with looking at Paradigm, B&W, or
NHT. (I have an all-Paradigm setup and couldn't be happier -- and I'm a
very picky guy when it comes to music and for home theater they are
very impressive also.)

If, however, you're not looking to move into the audiophile category
and are looking for the best consumer-level speakers (where Bose is
certainly better than a lot of stuff out there) I'd pick Polk or
Infinity over Bose any day. You might spend a little bit more but the
upgrade in sound is well worth it.


If someone is looking for small speakers, I would listen to
the Infinity Primus 150's or 200's: they are outstanding speakers
and cheap. We have a set along with Paradigm Studio 20's and
Atoms. The Paradigms are very good speakers, The Primus are
a tad warmer, with considerably more detail than the Atoms, about
equal to the Studio 20's, but with less bass than the 20's.

......Look for a dealer that offers in-home
trial (hint: you won't get this from a Big Box retailer like Best Buy
or Circuit City) of either the speakers you purchase, or demo loaners....

Our local Circuit City will allow speaker returns up to 30 days after
purchase, provided that you save all of the packing material.

On 09 Jan 2005 09:45:40 GMT, otforme (Charlie Self)
wrote:


Yeah. Think of it, though. A way to get even for all the moronic jokes on my
name that I've heard since I was old enough to listen, though after I was six,
it was all repetition. Amazing how many witty people are witless in such areas.

Charlie Self


Sounds familiar.

Greg Pavlov

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:09:36 GMT, (Xane T.) wrote:

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:16:26 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Personally I think Best Buy ought to drop that product line, but making
money on cables seems to be a successful marketing strategy at this point
(go down to CompUSA, find any Belkin cable, write down the price, the name,
and the SKU, then plug those into Froogle).

I personally go to Wal-Mart for most of my cable needs (I don't do any
heavy duty editing or have an expensive speaker system right now. so I
don't care about the quality so much). What I don't get is why $15 USB
cable at Wal-Mart costs $30 in BestBuy/Circuit
City/CompUSA/OfficeMax/Depot/Staples. That's a *HUGE* price difference
for the exact same product. Most other things are only about 10-30%
cheaper in Wal-mart than they are in bigger stores.


I don't know either. Several years ago our company had a discount deal
with CompUSA. I was needing some computer cables in support of a test
effort we were doing and headed over to CompUSA to pick up what I needed.
Must have loaded about $50 to $75 worth of cables, connectors and other
assorted stuff. When I showed my company ID, with the discount applied,
the total for all of those things was something like $15 -- I thought they
had missed something, but the charges matched the merchandise.




+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

If you've reviewed audiophile stuff than you'll probably get a kick out
of these products.

http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc?
Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RAM&Category_Code=C37


http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C



In article ,
says...
On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 16:41:59 -0800, "mp" wrote:


I take it you've never heard any differences between speaker wires. The
sonic differences between speaker wires or interconnects is not that hard to
demonstrate on a good system.



"...So what do our fifty hours of testing, scoring and listening to
speaker cables amount to? Only that 16-gauge lamp cord and Monster
cable are indistinguishable from each other with music and seem to be
superior to the 24 gauge wire commonly sold or given away as 'speaker
cable.' Remember, however, that it was a measurable
characteristic--higher resistance per foot--that made 24 gauge sound
different from the other cables. If the cable runs were only 6 instead
of 30 feet, the overall cable resistances would have been lower and
our tests would probably have found no audible differences between the
three cables. This project was unable to validate the sonic benefits
claimed for exotic speaker cables over common 16-gauge zip cord. We
can only conclude, therefore, that there is little advantage besides
pride of ownership in using these thick, expensive wires"

"Speaker Cables: Can You Hear the Difference?", Laurence Greenhill in
Stereo Review.


tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

Well, CompUSA (aka CompUSELESS) has been know to sell small pieces
pars for 2x to 4x the SRP. Gotta getcha on the small things since the
markups/margin on computer systems is so slim these days if you want
to move the machines. My gosh,hard to believe desktops with Monitors
AND printers for around $399

John

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:09:36 GMT, (Xane T.)
wrote:

On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:16:26 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Personally I think Best Buy ought to drop that product line, but making
money on cables seems to be a successful marketing strategy at this point
(go down to CompUSA, find any Belkin cable, write down the price, the name,
and the SKU, then plug those into Froogle).

I personally go to Wal-Mart for most of my cable needs (I don't do any
heavy duty editing or have an expensive speaker system right now. so I
don't care about the quality so much). What I don't get is why $15 USB
cable at Wal-Mart costs $30 in BestBuy/Circuit
City/CompUSA/OfficeMax/Depot/Staples. That's a *HUGE* price difference
for the exact same product. Most other things are only about 10-30%
cheaper in Wal-mart than they are in bigger stores.

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
"Mike Marlow" wrote in message

Check around - you'll find more than a few players who have preferences
for
battery type based on what they hear. Mostly it's because of the effect
that the brand of battery's decay had on the pedal. It's more common
than
you think.

Lots of experience with musicians, Mike? You gotta watch'em ... they'll
have
you believing anything you're gullible enough to swallow, and someone has
definitely pulled your leg.

Been around musicians for decades. Can't pull my leg with it though,
because I just shove whatever battery I have into things. In fact, my pedal
board is powered by a wall wart - it's always "new". Never took this crap
this far myself. But... I know there are those who do.


What they didn't clue you into is that the very idea itself has been a
source of derision and jokes amongst damn near every musician since
effects
pedals were invented.


That doesn't stop many from believing it's true. What's that expression...
tell a lie long enough and it looks like the truth? Or sumptin' like that.
You know - even legends become "fact" after a while.

--

-Mike-

In article ,
"Swingman" wrote:

"Mike Marlow" wrote in message

Check around - you'll find more than a few players who have preferences
for
battery type based on what they hear. Mostly it's because of the effect
that the brand of battery's decay had on the pedal. It's more common than
you think.

Lots of experience with musicians, Mike? You gotta watch'em ... they'll have
you believing anything you're gullible enough to swallow, and someone has
definitely pulled your leg.

What they didn't clue you into is that the very idea itself has been a
source of derision and jokes amongst damn near every musician since effects
pedals were invented.

I got a rumour started once when the Hill Plasmatronics helium
loudspeakers hit the market, that *I* could hear the difference between
medical helium and the stuff for balloons. *G*

"Robatoy" wrote in message

I thought it was pretty funny as well. Dudley Moore (RIP...what a shame
we lost him as young as he was...)

I first saw Dudley Moore on a TV show called "Not only...But also" with
Peter Cook when I was living in England in the mid 60's. What a great show
that was. Early BBC had more than its share of comic genius.

--
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Last update: 11/06/04

Xane T. wrote:
I personally go to Wal-Mart for most of my cable needs (I don't do any
heavy duty editing or have an expensive speaker system right now. so I
don't care about the quality so much). What I don't get is why $15 USB
cable at Wal-Mart costs $30 in BestBuy/Circuit
City/CompUSA/OfficeMax/Depot/Staples. That's a *HUGE* price difference
for the exact same product. Most other things are only about 10-30%
cheaper in Wal-mart than they are in bigger stores.


You can probably find that same USB cable for under $2 at cyberguys.com. For
example, a 3' A male to B male USB 2.0 cable can be had for $1.63 or as cheap as
$1.47 if you buy 10 of them at a time. You can get the 10' cables for the same
price. I've been using their cables with great sucess for a while now. There's
no way in hell I'm going to allow myself to be raped paying the big bucks for
those cables at CompUSA or BestBuy.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

otforme (Charlie Self) wrote in
:

Silvan writes:

Charlie Self wrote:

Well, hell. I'm gonna start a suit, nail everyone who uses my name
in their business. Start with Self magazine, I guess and motivate
from there.

Sue everybody on earth. Everyone touches himSELF or herSELF at some
point. Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his
income for life.

Wash the money though.

Yeah. Think of it, though. A way to get even for all the moronic jokes
on my name that I've heard since I was old enough to listen, though
after I was six, it was all repetition. Amazing how many witty people
are witless in such areas.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise
above that which is expected." George W. Bush

I'll bet you wish you a nickle for everytime somebody called you "Charlie
Horse" or the like .

Silvan wrote in
:

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his income for
life.

Wash the money though.

If I had to pay a fee for every time I touched myself I'd not only be
blind, but broke!

You wouldn't have to be broke. Sell the hair on your palms to wig
makers.


A market for green hair?

Henry St. Pierre responds:

Silvan writes:

Charlie Self wrote:

Well, hell. I'm gonna start a suit, nail everyone who uses my name
in their business. Start with Self magazine, I guess and motivate
from there.

Sue everybody on earth. Everyone touches himSELF or herSELF at some
point. Anyone who touches himSELF owes you $1,000 plus 1% of his
income for life.

Wash the money though.

Yeah. Think of it, though. A way to get even for all the moronic jokes
on my name that I've heard since I was old enough to listen, though
after I was six, it was all repetition. Amazing how many witty people
are witless in such areas.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise
above that which is expected." George W. Bush

I'll bet you wish you a nickle for everytime somebody called you "Charlie
Horse" or the like .

Nah. Not once,

I'd sure as hell own that $8000 Canon DSLR.

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:51:25 -0500, Silvan
calmly ranted:

Robatoy wrote:

It's immoral. Marketing based on lies.

Yeah, but the alternative is that movie... I think it was called "Funny
People." Or maybe "Crazy People." That was one of the funniest movies
I've ever seen.

I'd have to rank "The Gods Must Be Crazy" as the funniest movie. If
you haven't seen it, go rent it tonight. N!xau thanks you.
http://imdb.com from 1980.


Jaguar - for men who like getting hand jobs from women they barely know

Porsche - too small to get laid in, but you'll get laid the moment you step
out of it

I like it! (Not that I'd ever own either POS.)


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"Robatoy" wrote in message
...

hehehehe..somebody has to drive the bus...



Hey, Now! Watch that..... Everyone knows drummers have to make way for the
really big heads.

Doesn't anyone think the that cable company in question just put a shyster
on the payroll and they are trying to justify their salary?
My aplogies to any shysters reading this I'm sure there is at least one of
you that doesn't live for other peoples money. I just haven't had the
experience personally

Brian wrote:

Look for a dealer that offers
in-home trial (hint: you won't get this from a Big Box retailer like
Best Buy or Circuit City) of either the speakers you purchase, or
demo loaners. Reputable audio dealers understand and accomodate this
important practice.

Thanks.

-- Mark

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:01:28 -0500, Silvan
wrote:

|Wes Stewart wrote:
|
| I can't help myself and must ask; what is "the correct topology" for
| an audio frequency interconnect?
|
|Hopefully a nekkit wimminz interconnecting the audio with her topology off.

Aha! Now I understand why some of these interconnects are so pricy.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:32:23 -0600, "Knothead"
wrote:


Doesn't anyone think the that cable company in question just put a shyster
on the payroll and they are trying to justify their salary?
My aplogies to any shysters reading this I'm sure there is at least one of
you that doesn't live for other peoples money. I just haven't had the
experience personally


Most people work for others. And many of them take
sick time when they aren't sick, hang around the water
cooler to gossip, take long lunches when they can
get away with it, surf the Internet when no one's watching,
make personal phone calls, etc. All of this is subsidized
by their employers' customers. But since the company
is charging customers on their behalf, they're "getting
back at the company," rather than ripping off the customers.

"GregP" wrote in message


Most people work for others. And many of them take
sick time when they aren't sick, hang around the water
cooler to gossip, take long lunches when they can
get away with it, surf the Internet when no one's watching,
make personal phone calls, etc. All of this is subsidized
by their employers' customers.

Have you been following me around????

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 21:20:28 GMT, justme calmly
ranted:

If you've reviewed audiophile stuff than you'll probably get a kick out
of these products.

http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc?
Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RAM&Category_Code=C37

Horrible price.


http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc?
Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C

Egad! Who ARE these maroons?


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