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On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
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Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.

This looks to be a solution to a problem that does not exist.

First off if it is designed to save space during storage it saves very
little. I have 22 of these style clamps hanging separately in a 27"
wide space. They are spaced about 1/2" apart and the bars on different
levels fit between the clamping ends.

Second, clamp are heavy. Tie 4 together and add the components to hold
them all evenly and you are talking some serious weight. Did I mention
that he was panting?

Third. I have never needed clamps to be evenly spaced and quite often
my clamps need to go in separately to fine tune where each goes. Gluing
flat panels is not much of what I do.

Fourth. What if you only need one or two clamps. do you use the whole
assembly again?
Remember the panting?

Fifth. What problem does this solve?

Probably a fun project for him but not necessary or any kind of
improvement IMHO.

I am familiar with Izzy but don't really recall him building things
except for his channel. Where am I going with that? He still does not
know how to glue up0 panels and not create a glue up mess.

Gluing 101. If you run a bead and not spread it evenly you never learn
how much is too much or not enough. And not spreading it evenly is the
number one reason for glue starvation.


If you spread it out evenly and it begins dripping off the edge you put
on too much. In his example he probably put on twice as much glue as
necessary. He had a real mess to clean up and unfortunately cleaning up
the back side of the glue up with all of those extra bars added many
more obstacles to maneuver around.


I always spread the glue to the entire surface and have learned to know
how much is enough by doing so. When I clamp the joint I get an even
hair line of squeeze out. Absolutely no globs or dripping.
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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-qDQI8DXI&t=405s



Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.


Are you aware of Izzy's health problems? That could have something to
do with it.


This looks to be a solution to a problem that does not exist.

First off if it is designed to save space during storage it saves very
little. I have 22 of these style clamps hanging separately in a 27"
wide space. They are spaced about 1/2" apart and the bars on different
levels fit between the clamping ends.

Second, clamp are heavy. Tie 4 together and add the components to hold
them all evenly and you are talking some serious weight. Did I mention
that he was panting?

Third. I have never needed clamps to be evenly spaced and quite often
my clamps need to go in separately to fine tune where each goes. Gluing
flat panels is not much of what I do.


Well, then you are the targeted audience. ;-)


Fourth. What if you only need one or two clamps. do you use the whole
assembly again?
Remember the panting?


Now you're sounding like one of those infomercials where the actor
fights with the tangled garden hose or whatever is the current version
of whatever product the guy is selling. Making everything sound worse
than it really is. ;-)

If you only need one or 2 clamps, you (he) grab one or two of the single
clamps hanging on the wall next to the X-Clamp rack. I'm pretty sure
that this device isn't meant to replace/bundle every clamp in the shop.

https://i.imgur.com/JV91JNJ.jpg


Fifth. What problem does this solve?

Probably a fun project for him but not necessary or any kind of
improvement IMHO.

I am familiar with Izzy but don't really recall him building things
except for his channel. Where am I going with that? He still does not
know how to glue up0 panels and not create a glue up mess.


I only linked to the X-Clamp portion of his most recent video. Start
at the beginning of the video for his words on where his channel
and business is headed.

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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-qDQI8DXI&t=405s



Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.

This looks to be a solution to a problem that does not exist.

First off if it is designed to save space during storage it saves very
little. I have 22 of these style clamps hanging separately in a 27"
wide space. They are spaced about 1/2" apart and the bars on different
levels fit between the clamping ends.

Second, clamp are heavy. Tie 4 together and add the components to hold
them all evenly and you are talking some serious weight. Did I mention
that he was panting?

Third. I have never needed clamps to be evenly spaced and quite often
my clamps need to go in separately to fine tune where each goes. Gluing
flat panels is not much of what I do.


Obviously I meant to say *not* the targeted audience in my previous
post. Whoops...big difference!


Fourth. What if you only need one or two clamps. do you use the whole
assembly again?
Remember the panting?

Fifth. What problem does this solve?

Probably a fun project for him but not necessary or any kind of
improvement IMHO.

I am familiar with Izzy but don't really recall him building things
except for his channel. Where am I going with that? He still does not
know how to glue up0 panels and not create a glue up mess.

Gluing 101. If you run a bead and not spread it evenly you never learn
how much is too much or not enough. And not spreading it evenly is the
number one reason for glue starvation.


If you spread it out evenly and it begins dripping off the edge you put
on too much. In his example he probably put on twice as much glue as
necessary. He had a real mess to clean up and unfortunately cleaning up
the back side of the glue up with all of those extra bars added many
more obstacles to maneuver around.


I always spread the glue to the entire surface and have learned to know
how much is enough by doing so. When I clamp the joint I get an even
hair line of squeeze out. Absolutely no globs or dripping.

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On 5/10/2021 11:49 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-qDQI8DXI&t=405s



Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.


Are you aware of Izzy's health problems? That could have something to
do with it.



NO! I am/was not aware of any health issues. But I think carrying 4
clamps at a time is 4 times heavier.... ;~)





This looks to be a solution to a problem that does not exist.

First off if it is designed to save space during storage it saves very
little. I have 22 of these style clamps hanging separately in a 27"
wide space. They are spaced about 1/2" apart and the bars on different
levels fit between the clamping ends.

Second, clamp are heavy. Tie 4 together and add the components to hold
them all evenly and you are talking some serious weight. Did I mention
that he was panting?

Third. I have never needed clamps to be evenly spaced and quite often
my clamps need to go in separately to fine tune where each goes. Gluing
flat panels is not much of what I do.


Well, then you are the targeted audience. ;-)


I meant to indicate that a majority of my gluing is for face frames and
90 degree joints.





Fourth. What if you only need one or two clamps. do you use the whole
assembly again?
Remember the panting?


Now you're sounding like one of those infomercials where the actor
fights with the tangled garden hose or whatever is the current version
of whatever product the guy is selling. Making everything sound worse
than it really is. ;-)


LOL Right!

I have a bit of a short patience for video people that are only in it
for the clicks.
I almost always watch instructional video's to learn something. When the
instructor and or person in the video does not demonstrate practical
experience of doing something I sign off.

Not only picking on him but all of the video's with this technique of
applying glue, down and dirty. It's just extra work if you don't do it
right to start with. It literally takes less time to apply less glue
and spread it, AND add more if needed, than to clean up that mess
afterwards.

Stepping down off of my podium... ;~)


If you only need one or 2 clamps, you (he) grab one or two of the single
clamps hanging on the wall next to the X-Clamp rack. I'm pretty sure
that this device isn't meant to replace/bundle every clamp in the shop.

https://i.imgur.com/JV91JNJ.jpg


Fifth. What problem does this solve?

Probably a fun project for him but not necessary or any kind of
improvement IMHO.

I am familiar with Izzy but don't really recall him building things
except for his channel. Where am I going with that? He still does not
know how to glue up0 panels and not create a glue up mess.


I only linked to the X-Clamp portion of his most recent video. Start
at the beginning of the video for his words on where his channel
and business is headed.


I heard most of what he was saying, he is OK, but I feel that he has
nothing to offer me.


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On 5/10/2021 12:17 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-qDQI8DXI&t=405s



Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.

This looks to be a solution to a problem that does not exist.

First off if it is designed to save space during storage it saves very
little. I have 22 of these style clamps hanging separately in a 27"
wide space. They are spaced about 1/2" apart and the bars on different
levels fit between the clamping ends.

Second, clamp are heavy. Tie 4 together and add the components to hold
them all evenly and you are talking some serious weight. Did I mention
that he was panting?

Third. I have never needed clamps to be evenly spaced and quite often
my clamps need to go in separately to fine tune where each goes. Gluing
flat panels is not much of what I do.


Obviously I meant to say *not* the targeted audience in my previous
post. Whoops...big difference!


RORFL Wasn't it Gilda Radner on SNL that would respond,,,,,, Oh,
that's different! Never mind!

None of us are perfect!






Fourth. What if you only need one or two clamps. do you use the whole
assembly again?
Remember the panting?

Fifth. What problem does this solve?

Probably a fun project for him but not necessary or any kind of
improvement IMHO.

I am familiar with Izzy but don't really recall him building things
except for his channel. Where am I going with that? He still does not
know how to glue up0 panels and not create a glue up mess.

Gluing 101. If you run a bead and not spread it evenly you never learn
how much is too much or not enough. And not spreading it evenly is the
number one reason for glue starvation.


If you spread it out evenly and it begins dripping off the edge you put
on too much. In his example he probably put on twice as much glue as
necessary. He had a real mess to clean up and unfortunately cleaning up
the back side of the glue up with all of those extra bars added many
more obstacles to maneuver around.


I always spread the glue to the entire surface and have learned to know
how much is enough by doing so. When I clamp the joint I get an even
hair line of squeeze out. Absolutely no globs or dripping.


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On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:49:07 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/10/2021 11:49 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-qDQI8DXI&t=405s



Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.


Are you aware of Izzy's health problems? That could have something to
do with it.


NO! I am/was not aware of any health issues. But I think carrying 4
clamps at a time is 4 times heavier.... ;~)


Back in 2019 - 2020 he had spine issues that put him in a wheelchair
for a while. He went through a spell where he kind of hid it from his
viewers but when it got to the point that he couldn't stand up for more
than a few minutes at a time, he posted 3 videos about his condition:

"I've been hiding something from you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAEnDh5Q16Q

"I've been hiding something - update."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32z0EPrlFMA

"Surgery Was Successful! I CAN WALK!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lme6CST9yTg

The surgery went well but his kidneys failed, he had blood
toxicity, there was lots of confusion as to what his overall
health was. e.g. "You have diabetes" Then 2 hours later, "No,
you don't". Apparently stuff like that went on for few days.

I'm sure he's not 100% even now.
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On 5/9/2021 10:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-qDQI8DXI&t=405s



Now that is funny. I guess pandering to the inexperienced. Did you
notice him panting through the video? No, watch again, especially near
the 9 minute mark.

This looks to be a solution to a problem that does not exist.


I thought it was pretty neat but it is a problem that doesn't exist. A
few boards with slots for the clamps would work just as well. Better,
actually, because the clamps can be put where they're needed.

I've seen over-expensive versions of this idea but it wouldn't take
long to build a couple of rails. Maybe with dogs to hold them up (or
a board at a right angle.

First off if it is designed to save space during storage it saves very
little. I have 22 of these style clamps hanging separately in a 27"
wide space. They are spaced about 1/2" apart and the bars on different
levels fit between the clamping ends.

Second, clamp are heavy. Tie 4 together and add the components to hold
them all evenly and you are talking some serious weight. Did I mention
that he was panting?

Third. I have never needed clamps to be evenly spaced and quite often
my clamps need to go in separately to fine tune where each goes. Gluing
flat panels is not much of what I do.


There are also 4-sided panel glue-up clamps fit together something
like this. I saw one that hung from the wall. Saves space.

Fourth. What if you only need one or two clamps. do you use the whole
assembly again?


Of course not. Get one with only two clamps. One for three. One for
five...

Remember the panting?

Fifth. What problem does this solve?


Probably a fun project for him but not necessary or any kind of
improvement IMHO.

I am familiar with Izzy but don't really recall him building things
except for his channel. Where am I going with that? He still does not
know how to glue up0 panels and not create a glue up mess.


He knows how to make clicks.

Gluing 101. If you run a bead and not spread it evenly you never learn
how much is too much or not enough. And not spreading it evenly is the
number one reason for glue starvation.


If you spread it out evenly and it begins dripping off the edge you put
on too much. In his example he probably put on twice as much glue as
necessary. He had a real mess to clean up and unfortunately cleaning up
the back side of the glue up with all of those extra bars added many
more obstacles to maneuver around.


I always spread the glue to the entire surface and have learned to know
how much is enough by doing so. When I clamp the joint I get an even
hair line of squeeze out. Absolutely no globs or dripping.

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