"Ron Magen" wrote in
news
Phil,
I keep hearing references to 'cheap at the scrap yard', and 'shopping'
at the city dump.

WHERE !!??

Uh, Ron, Phil's in South Africa. Things might be a bit different there.

A couple of weeks ago, he indicated that a router insert would take 7-10
WEEKS to arrive.

Necessity can be a mother...

Patriarch

'Patriarch',
Know Phil's at a 'far distance' from here - the question was / is
rhetorical.

There has been several similar references & comments - from U.S. posters.
The closest thing around here {Philly suburbs}is driving around the
neighborhoods with a pick-up or small utility trailer on trash day {and
wouldn't my wife LOVE that !!}. The other option is 'dumpster diving' behind
K-Mart. Do that behind Home Depot or a construction site and the local
constabulary will give you a world of trouble !!

Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"patriarch astDOTnet" patriarch wrote

SNIP
Uh, Ron, Phil's in South Africa. Things might be a bit different there.

I have a 30 x 40 shop in the Seattle area. It has a high ceiling, 14
ft in parts. I opted for a pellet stove since the cost of putting in
a tall chimmney made a wood stove more expensive. I have been very
satisfied with the pellet stove. It is totally enclosed with a fan for
circulating the heat in the shop and another fan for running the
combustion and exhaust. The exhaust is just through the wall. I also
have a ceiling fan to help get the heat out of the tall ceiling area.

"Ron Magen" wrote in
:

'Patriarch',
Know Phil's at a 'far distance' from here - the question was / is
rhetorical.

There has been several similar references & comments - from U.S.
posters. The closest thing around here {Philly suburbs}is driving
around the neighborhoods with a pick-up or small utility trailer on
trash day {and wouldn't my wife LOVE that !!}. The other option is
'dumpster diving' behind K-Mart. Do that behind Home Depot or a
construction site and the local constabulary will give you a world of
trouble !!

My eldest son spent a couple of years in the Philly area. Loved the people
and the local food. He told me that it took a California boy a little
while to adjust to the Philly culture, and ways of doing things.

We get no dumpster diving here, either, but that doesn't seem to stop my
brothers-in-law. Me, I have no storage space for what I now own. My wife
is looking forward to me being a net seller at the block garage sale next
month.

I see what a fellow like Lawrence L'Hote (?) does with recycled stuff, and
feel like I waste way too many resources...

Patriarch

In article ,
says...
Phil,
I keep hearing references to 'cheap at the scrap yard', and 'shopping' at
the city dump.
Ron,
Here a scrap yard is a dealer who buys/collects scrap and resells at a
vast profit.
The local one call himself "Honest George" (oxymoron). There is all
kinds of rubbish there but somtimes you can find a useful item.
Shades of 'Steptoe and Son' and the sitcom you had with Redd Foxx.
Cheers
--

Phillip Hansen
Skil-Phil Solutions

Ron Magen wrote:
Phil,
I keep hearing references to 'cheap at the scrap yard', and 'shopping' at
the city dump.

WHERE !!??

[snip]
We have a community dump here in the elevated sticks. Part of the dump
is an area known as "Another Man's Treasure". If you have something
that you can't use or want to sell, you can leave it there for someone
else to pick up and restart the chain. Great place for recyclables.

Oh and which reminds me...


There once was a rich man who was near death. He was very sad because he
had worked so hard for his money and he wanted to be able to take it
with him to heaven. So he began to pray that he might be able to take
some of his wealth with him.

An angel hears his plea and says to him... "Sorry, but you can't take
your wealth with you." The man implores the angel to speak to God to see
if He might bend the rules.

The man continues to pray that his wealth could follow him. The angel
reappears and informs the man that God has decided to allow him to take
one suitcase with him. Overjoyed, the man gathers his largest suitcase
and fills it with pure gold bars and places it beside his bed.

Soon afterward the man dies and shows up at the Gates of Heaven to greet
St. Peter. St. Peter seeing the suitcase says, "Hold on, you can't bring
that in here!"

But, the man explains to St. Peter that he has permission and asks him
to verify his story with the Lord. Sure enough, St. Peter checks and
comes back saying, "You're right. You are allowed one carry-on bag, but
I'm supposed to check its contents before letting it through."

St. Peter opens the suitcase to inspect the worldly items that the man
found too precious to leave behind and exclaims - "You brought
pavement?!!!"

In article ,
says...
Got mine from a scrap yard. Cost me R250 (about $35)Now that spring is
here it has been cleaned and painted all ready for next winter.
Today it was put back in use. Snowing now and looks like it will be the
heaviest snow since I have been here in 5 years. Well at least I have a
stove and can get the shop warm. G
--

Phillip Hansen
Skil-Phil Solutions

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:45:40 +0200, Phil Hansen wrote:

In article ,
says...
Got mine from a scrap yard. Cost me R250 (about $35)Now that spring is
here it has been cleaned and painted all ready for next winter.
Today it was put back in use. Snowing now and looks like it will be the
heaviest snow since I have been here in 5 years. Well at least I have a
stove and can get the shop warm. G

You in Breckenridge? I heard they got 8 inches!!!

JP
*****************
I miss the Rockies.

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:45:40 +0200, Phil Hansen wrote:

In article ,
says...
Got mine from a scrap yard. Cost me R250 (about $35)Now that spring is
here it has been cleaned and painted all ready for next winter.
Today it was put back in use. Snowing now and looks like it will be the
heaviest snow since I have been here in 5 years. Well at least I have a
stove and can get the shop warm. G

You in Breckenridge? I heard they got 8 inches!!!

JP
*****************
I miss the Rockies.

No. Rosetta, South Africa
--

Phillip Hansen
Skil-Phil Solutions

CW wrote:

Same as here. "The city dump" is off limits to anyone that doesn't work
there. We have "transfer stations". Open top semis that you approach from
the top via a platform and throw your stuff into. Not much of a way to
salvage anything. If you do manage to salvage something, you will be
arrested for doing so.

And it speaks volumes for what has become of our society that one can be
arrested for taking trash from the dump.

"Ron Magen" wrote in message
news
Phil,
I keep hearing references to 'cheap at the scrap yard', and 'shopping' at
the city dump.

WHERE !!??

Around here you'd think the stuff was either gold or nuclear waste . . .
the
way it's either locked away or trucked a hundred miles away. If you don't
get it out of your neighbors trash before the Thursday morning pick-up .
.
.
it's GONE !!

Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{That's how I got the doors that make up my heavy *big* workbench, and
what
I throw across sawhorses for 'instant' ones !!}


--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"J. Clarke" wrote in message
And it speaks volumes for what has become of our society that one can be
arrested for taking trash from the dump.

Some dumps and transfer stations have a place to set aside the still working
stuff for others to take. Others, though, sell the scrap metal and feel that
you are stealing from them.

Seems to me that salvaging stuff is a good way to go. I know of a fellow
that made a few bucks by taking lawn mowers and repairing them. He'd sell
them for $25 to $50 or so and keep them from filling up the big hole in the
ground.

Logic and municipal laws have nothing in common.

Where I live in the UK, the 'salvage rights' go to the contractor supplying
the 'transfer station' service.
Nick


"J. Clarke" wrote in message
...
CW wrote:

Same as here. "The city dump" is off limits to anyone that doesn't work
there. We have "transfer stations". Open top semis that you approach
from
the top via a platform and throw your stuff into. Not much of a way to
salvage anything. If you do manage to salvage something, you will be
arrested for doing so.

And it speaks volumes for what has become of our society that one can be
arrested for taking trash from the dump.

"Ron Magen" wrote in message
news
Phil,
I keep hearing references to 'cheap at the scrap yard', and 'shopping'
at
the city dump.

WHERE !!??

Around here you'd think the stuff was either gold or nuclear waste . .
..
the
way it's either locked away or trucked a hundred miles away. If you
don't
get it out of your neighbors trash before the Thursday morning pick-up
..
.
.
it's GONE !!

Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{That's how I got the doors that make up my heavy *big* workbench, and
what
I throw across sawhorses for 'instant' ones !!}


--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Live Texas, on or about Septmeber 16th, 2004, with the shop doors wide open
and two fans going full blast.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/files/hot.jpg

.... nuff said.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/10/04

Live Texas, on or about Septmeber 16th, 2004, with the shop doors wide open
and two fans going full blast.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/files/hot.jpg

.... nuff said.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 7/10/04

Swingman writes:


Live Texas, on or about Septmeber 16th, 2004, with the shop doors wide open
and two fans going full blast.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/files/hot.jpg

... nuff said.

Ugh. I haven't been in weather that hot since a spate of nasty stuff here and
in the Carolinas back in the early and mid-80s.

Charlie Self
"Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and
hurry off as if nothing happened." Sir Winston Churchill

Swingman writes:


Live Texas, on or about Septmeber 16th, 2004, with the shop doors wide open
and two fans going full blast.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/files/hot.jpg

... nuff said.

Ugh. I haven't been in weather that hot since a spate of nasty stuff here and
in the Carolinas back in the early and mid-80s.

Charlie Self
"Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and
hurry off as if nothing happened." Sir Winston Churchill