On Sat, 38 Mar 1436 28:29:30 +03000 (UTC) wrote:

Can you tell anything about this old auto from the photos?

i think it is an amc pacer

Can you tell anything about this old auto from the photos?


i think it is an amc pacer



Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.
John T.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:42:47 -0400
wrote:

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:46:41 -0700, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:42:47 -0400
wrote:

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price





I used to own one, and you'd be surprised how comfortable they were. A
whole lot MORE comfortable with A/C, mind you!! The greenhouse had
more glass than a '61 new yorker station wagon!!!
We actually rallied the "fishbowl" a couple times early in our first
season while we were "getting the kinks out of" the R12.. The K frame
made a pretty good road grader, from what I remember!!! The 232 was a
bit weak for a car of that heft - the 258 was better - the 304 was too
heavy.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:46:41 -0700, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:42:47 -0400
wrote:

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price

That's because one in good condition has always been exceedingly rare,
even when they were new (owned a '71 Gremlin - the most appropriately
named car in history).

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:09:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:46:41 -0700, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:42:47 -0400
wrote:

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price

That's because one in good condition has always been exceedingly rare,
even when they were new (owned a '71 Gremlin - the most appropriately
named car in history).

I worked for a short time for an AMC dealer back in '72, and they were
actually pretty good cars when compared to products from GM. Ford, and
Chrysler at the same time. One big problem with the gremy and hornet
was the latch pins breaking out of the doorposts after the hinge pins
wore out or sagged.. They had pretty well solved the rocker arm oiling
issue on the 232 by that time. The 258 was a better motor for the car
- and the 340 was AWSOME. There was a dealer in Mesa Arizona that put
the 401 AMX engine in the Grem. - Randall Motors XR401.
There were quite a few 360s transplanted into Grems too -
They were HAIRY!!!!

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:50:05 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:09:35 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:46:41 -0700, Electric Comet
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:42:47 -0400
wrote:

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price

That's because one in good condition has always been exceedingly rare,
even when they were new (owned a '71 Gremlin - the most appropriately
named car in history).

I worked for a short time for an AMC dealer back in '72, and they were
actually pretty good cars when compared to products from GM. Ford, and
Chrysler at the same time. One big problem with the gremy and hornet
was the latch pins breaking out of the doorposts after the hinge pins
wore out or sagged.. They had pretty well solved the rocker arm oiling
issue on the 232 by that time. The 258 was a better motor for the car
- and the 340 was AWSOME. There was a dealer in Mesa Arizona that put
the 401 AMX engine in the Grem. - Randall Motors XR401.
There were quite a few 360s transplanted into Grems too -
They were HAIRY!!!!

Ours was a 232 but the engine was the only part of the car that didn't
have a problem. Everything from the alternator to the window frames
broke in the first few months. The dash was warped so badly that the
glove box door wouldn't close properly. The brakes were crap, as was
the clutch, drive shaft, and pretty much everything else. The only
thing worse than the car was the dealer and the manufacturer. Pure
junk.

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price

That's because one in good condition has always been exceedingly rare,
even when they were new (owned a '71 Gremlin - the most appropriately
named car in history).

I worked for a short time for an AMC dealer back in '72, and they were
actually pretty good cars when compared to products from GM. Ford, and
Chrysler at the same time. One big problem with the gremy and hornet
was the latch pins breaking out of the doorposts after the hinge pins
wore out or sagged.. They had pretty well solved the rocker arm oiling
issue on the 232 by that time. The 258 was a better motor for the car
- and the 340 was AWSOME. There was a dealer in Mesa Arizona that put
the 401 AMX engine in the Grem. - Randall Motors XR401.
There were quite a few 360s transplanted into Grems too -
They were HAIRY!!!!


My brother had "The Machine" when we were teenagers.
It was geared so low that I could accidently take off in 3rd gear
when being a careful designated driver - feathering the clutch
because I wasn't accustomed to the car .. half way through
the intersection I would realize that I didn't need to shift quite
yet. :-)

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/red-w...rebel-machine/

Previous owner a friend & AMX fan had it painted black and kept
the stripe pattern but made it a white stripe - it looked pretty good,
John T.

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I worked for a short time for an AMC dealer back in '72, and they were
actually pretty good cars when compared to products from GM. Ford, and
Chrysler at the same time.

Well, yes and no. They had some good engineering, but
production quality was all over the map - sometimes great,
sometimes abysmal - perhaps not worse than GM et al, but
not different enough to be called "good".

Friend of mine had a pair of AMXs - a 69 with a 390 that
he used for drag racing, and a 70 with the 360 that was
his daily driver - at least, when he wasn't rebuilding
the transmission (the 4 speed manual was a bit underspec'd
for that engine, and ate first gear fairly regularly).
He had a long list of stuff he'd fixed on both cars when
they were new, but after correcting all the factory
mistakes he figured they were good cars.

John