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Sometimes, Tweaking A Visual Design Doesn't Work
For the camp's porch swing, I alter my usual general design of the backrest.. The oval sides of the upper backrest are not appealing, as I had thought they might. I can always trim more off of those oval shapes, once I see where the chains run.
The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. The seat is comfortable and the arms are a good height and comfortable, also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/? Yesterday was Mom's 92nd birthday. The family took photos, then we all went to Prejeans (eatery/live music) for dinner. Mom still likes dancing to the Cajun music. The pic is of Mom and I.... at our best. Sonny |
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:37:45 -0800 (PST), Sonny
wrote: For the camp's porch swing, I alter my usual general design of the backrest. The oval sides of the upper backrest are not appealing, as I had thought they might. I can always trim more off of those oval shapes, once I see where the chains run. The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. The seat is comfortable and the arms are a good height and comfortable, also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/? Yesterday was Mom's 92nd birthday. The family took photos, then we all went to Prejeans (eatery/live music) for dinner. Mom still likes dancing to the Cajun music. The pic is of Mom and I.... at our best. Sonny Congratulations to your Mom, she looks like she has a strong sparkle in her eyes, there. Enjoyed the joints in your swing, you're going to need two strong men and a boy to carry that out of there. Should last a lot of years. In photo below https://www.flickr.com/photos/438361...n/photostream/ I noticed a lot of great looking wood in the background, I'm a bit jealous, but on the left behind a big screen there looked like a huge propeller fan, there, and I mean HUGE! Does it run and is there a story behind that? |
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Sonny wrote:
For the camp's porch swing, I alter my usual general design of the backrest. The oval sides of the upper backrest are not appealing, as I had thought they might. I can always trim more off of those oval shapes, once I see where the chains run. The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. The seat is comfortable and the arms are a good height and comfortable, also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/? Yesterday was Mom's 92nd birthday. The family took photos, then we all went to Prejeans (eatery/live music) for dinner. Mom still likes dancing to the Cajun music. The pic is of Mom and I.... at our best. Sonny Yes, the back does bring to mind a mushroom cloud. But looks like a well-made swing. Looks a little heavy, it would look heavier if I was in it. I like the arm rests. Just run the chain through them like you're supposed to--it makes the swing more stable. -- GW Ross Instant gratification takes too long. --Carrie Fisher |
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Sonny wrote:
For the camp's porch swing, I alter my usual general design of the backrest. The oval sides of the upper backrest are not appealing, as I had thought they might. I can always trim more off of those oval shapes, once I see where the chains run. The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. The seat is comfortable and the arms are a good height and comfortable, also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/? Yesterday was Mom's 92nd birthday. The family took photos, then we all went to Prejeans (eatery/live music) for dinner. Mom still likes dancing to the Cajun music. The pic is of Mom and I.... at our best. Sonny Happy birthday MOM! Nice swing! |
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 2:21:48 AM UTC-6, OFWW wrote:
Enjoyed the joints in your swing, you're going to need two strong men and a boy to carry that out of there. Should last a lot of years. Made of old cypress, which is a light weight wood, so the swing is not that heavy. The through tenon joints are for looks and, hopefully, stronger support/connection. Screwing or nailing the joints (with glue) has a tendency to split the wood, especially near the ends. The arm panels are 7" wide and, as is, they may crack/split, so the prospect of underside bracing (corbel-like) is still optional. I noticed a lot of great looking wood in the background, I'm a bit jealous, but on the left behind a big screen there looked like a huge propeller fan, there, and I mean HUGE! Does it run and is there a story behind that? Yeah, I have lots of lumber, sometimes more than I like, in that, I end up moving some, now and then, to access other pieces, for specific use. I salvage when and what I can. On those racks there is walnut, pecan, cypress, cedar, white oak, ash, cherry and some pine. The fan is an attic fan, installed in a double doorway. Great for removing dust and for cooling in the summer. During the initial shop remodel, it was originally sitting on the threshold.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/438361...in/photostream I don't have the dust collection attached to that unisaw and I do lots of hand work on that outfeed table, so the fan facilitates dust removal out that doorway. Every now and then, when the wind is blowing right, I open all the doors and windows and blow out the shop... the fan (and the wind blowing through) facilitates that dust removal, also. Sonny |
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 5:45:51 AM UTC-6, G. Ross wrote:
Yes, the back does bring to mind a mushroom cloud. LOL. I didn't see it as a mushroom cloud, but it does look odd and ugly, compared to some of my other designs/contours for backrests. But looks like a well-made swing. Looks a little heavy, it would look heavier if I was in it. I like the arm rests. I like to think the armrest design is my own. I use this design on lots of my seating pieces. The chains on the outside of the arms/framing is doable and strong, as long as the construction is solid, as here.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/438361...n/photostream/ and here.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/438361...posted-public/ Sonny |
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On 1/19/16 10:37 PM, Sonny wrote:
For the camp's porch swing, I alter my usual general design of the backrest. The oval sides of the upper backrest are not appealing, as I had thought they might. I can always trim more off of those oval shapes, once I see where the chains run. The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. The seat is comfortable and the arms are a good height and comfortable, also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/? Yesterday was Mom's 92nd birthday. The family took photos, then we all went to Prejeans (eatery/live music) for dinner. Mom still likes dancing to the Cajun music. The pic is of Mom and I.... at our best. Sonny Great work! I like that slab table, too. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 1/20/2016 5:45 AM, G. Ross wrote:
Just run the chain through them like you're supposed to--it makes the swing more stable. I agree ... running the front chains though the arm rests, and down to the seat frame along the front two posts, makes it very difficult to flip the swing, something we were good at as kids. That aside, Sonny's cypress swing is an absolutely beautiful swing design. Gonna have to keep the photo away from Linda, or I'll be copying it before this week is through. We are currently battling on whether to keep this one. https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...47332556198274 I want to replace it with a smaller, modern, metal yard swing with canopy, but she wants me to either make one out of wood that suits me (this frame is too big for the location for my tastes), or salvage it in some manner. She sees Sonny's photo, the battle is over ... -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:37:45 -0800 (PST)
Sonny wrote: The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. originality always is good to see i have seen large thick sisal rope used effectively for swings include some fancy knots and it really look great sisal is durable and lasting also holds up well in sun |
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:26:44 -0600, Swingman wrote:
On 1/20/2016 5:45 AM, G. Ross wrote: Just run the chain through them like you're supposed to--it makes the swing more stable. I agree ... running the front chains though the arm rests, and down to the seat frame along the front two posts, makes it very difficult to flip the swing, something we were good at as kids. That aside, Sonny's cypress swing is an absolutely beautiful swing design. Gonna have to keep the photo away from Linda, or I'll be copying it before this week is through. We are currently battling on whether to keep this one. https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...47332556198274 I want to replace it with a smaller, modern, metal yard swing with canopy, but she wants me to either make one out of wood that suits me (this frame is too big for the location for my tastes), or salvage it in some manner. She sees Sonny's photo, the battle is over ... LOL, after seeing Sonny's swing and the revisiting yours, it reminded me of that bag commercial. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy, Hefty, Hefty, Hefty. |
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:05:35 -0600, -MIKE-
wrote: On 1/19/16 10:37 PM, Sonny wrote: For the camp's porch swing, I alter my usual general design of the backrest. The oval sides of the upper backrest are not appealing, as I had thought they might. I can always trim more off of those oval shapes, once I see where the chains run. The purpose of those wider than usual sides was to hide the support chains. Typically, the chains are run through the armrests. I don't want the chains to run through the armrests, but to run outside the arms....and framing. Anyway, those oval sides will be trimmed, some, at least. The seat is comfortable and the arms are a good height and comfortable, also. https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/? Yesterday was Mom's 92nd birthday. The family took photos, then we all went to Prejeans (eatery/live music) for dinner. Mom still likes dancing to the Cajun music. The pic is of Mom and I.... at our best. Sonny Great work! I like that slab table, too. Yeah, that was total killer! |
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On 1/20/2016 11:34 AM, OFWW wrote:
LOL, after seeing Sonny's swing and the revisiting yours, it reminded me of that bag commercial. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy, Hefty, Hefty, Hefty. There's swings ... then there's thrones that swing.  -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:27:10 AM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
I want to replace it with a smaller, modern, metal yard swing with canopy, but she wants me to either make one out of wood that suits me (this frame is too big for the location for my tastes), or salvage it in some manner. She sees Sonny's photo, the battle is over ... Damnit, Karl... I am so sorry. I just sent Linda this, thinking I was helping you out... https://goo.gl/HzB0R9 Sonny's design could certainly compete or outshine any of those, but you know... a lady has to have choices! I rarely tell Kathy about anything you or Leon make as it is bad enough when we leave from a visit and I have the next two months of listening to "is that something you could make?" and "I want one of those, but made out of real wood" when she sees something in one of her magazines. The first time she saw "la petit atelier" behind your house where you have turned out so much fine custom work, I heard about all the things she wanted built for a year. (No kidding...) My excuses for not wanting to take away time from my business work to make her furniture almost evaporated as she saw me working all week using my time and skills to make a living transferred to exactly to spending my whole weekend using my time and skills for fun. |
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:48:18 -0600, Swingman wrote:
On 1/20/2016 11:34 AM, OFWW wrote: LOL, after seeing Sonny's swing and the revisiting yours, it reminded me of that bag commercial. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy, Hefty, Hefty, Hefty. There's swings ... then there's thrones that swing. Yes, I did get that impression. Grand pieces of furniture they are. |
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On 1/20/2016 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 10:27:10 AM UTC-6, Swingman wrote: I want to replace it with a smaller, modern, metal yard swing with canopy, but she wants me to either make one out of wood that suits me (this frame is too big for the location for my tastes), or salvage it in some manner. She sees Sonny's photo, the battle is over ... Damnit, Karl... I am so sorry. I just sent Linda this, thinking I was helping you out... https://goo.gl/HzB0R9 OH BOY!!!!!! Swingman I think you should build/weave 4 of these! I found this in Roberts link..... ;~) https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ZbxYxUr3KWM%3A With friends like us,,,,,, |
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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote:
Then, going to steal Sonny's design, and make a proper swing to replace that one. A few thoughts I keep in mind, when making swings, rockers or similar seating: 1)Backrest Angle I feel/find, that, the most comfortable recline for a backrest angle is about 7 degrees. The seat-to-backrest construction angle may be 90 degrees, but the seat's *resting back-tilt (recline) is about 7 degrees. *Resting back-tilt (recline): For a rocker at rest and for a hanging (at rest) swing, the backrest angle, relative to the floor, is about 7 degrees. Your comfort angle may be different. I like my seat-to-backrest construction angle to be about 7 degrees. 2) Where the seat (contour/profile) meets the backrest, there is often a slight upturn of the seat profile. Make sure that upturn, if one, does not start too far from the backrest and that the upturn is not too high. If the upturn is large (in length or height), your butt will feel it.... it being an uncomfortable bump at the back of the seat. Does this make sense? If possible, make that upturn as short and small (height) as possible, without compromising the seat frame's structure/strength. Thank you all for the generous compliments. Sonny |
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On 1/21/2016 12:27 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 2:29:42 PM UTC-6, Swingman wrote: Then, going to steal Sonny's design, and make a proper swing to replace that one. A few thoughts I keep in mind, when making swings, rockers or similar seating: 1)Backrest Angle I feel/find, that, the most comfortable recline for a backrest angle is about 7 degrees. The seat-to-backrest construction angle may be 90 degrees, but the seat's *resting back-tilt (recline) is about 7 degrees. *Resting back-tilt (recline): For a rocker at rest and for a hanging (at rest) swing, the backrest angle, relative to the floor, is about 7 degrees. Your comfort angle may be different. I like my seat-to-backrest construction angle to be about 7 degrees. 2) Where the seat (contour/profile) meets the backrest, there is often a slight upturn of the seat profile. Make sure that upturn, if one, does not start too far from the backrest and that the upturn is not too high. If the upturn is large (in length or height), your butt will feel it.... it being an uncomfortable bump at the back of the seat. Does this make sense? If possible, make that upturn as short and small (height) as possible, without compromising the seat frame's structure/strength. Thank you all for the generous compliments. Sonny Words of wisdom Sonny. Above all is comfort. It can look great but if it is not comfortable it essentially will go unused. |
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