On 5/18/2014 6:23 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400,
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted "Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.


If your post requires more than 60 seconds of thought, expect to have
it dropped from the forum most places. If you need longer than a
minute, disconnect from the forum, do your thinking in Notepad or
Word, select and copy the text, sign back into the forum, post your
reply.

That's one reason I use Forte Agent - all reading and posting are done
on the PC and there are no timeouts.


Another point - Google Groups give you access to the newsgroups via a
web interface. They don't have anything else to do with the newsgroups.

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted "Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.

On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted "Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.


If your post requires more than 60 seconds of thought, expect to have
it dropped from the forum most places. If you need longer than a
minute, disconnect from the forum, do your thinking in Notepad or
Word, select and copy the text, sign back into the forum, post your
reply.

That's one reason I use Forte Agent - all reading and posting are done
on the PC and there are no timeouts.

wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted "Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.

If your post requires more than 60 seconds of thought, expect to have
it dropped from the forum most places. If you need longer than a
minute, disconnect from the forum, do your thinking in Notepad or
Word, select and copy the text, sign back into the forum, post your
reply.

That's one reason I use Forte Agent - all reading and posting are done
on the PC and there are no timeouts.

No, it wasn't dropped. I was able to view the person's work from my
wife's account, but no longer from mine.

It really about the poster than the technology. "Comments please"--but
only one's which polish my ego.

For the amount of posting, there is very little in the way of
constructive criticism that takes place there, maybe because
it takes work, and maybe because people are afraid of offending one
another. And maybe because some folks will
delete it and block you if you cast any their way! I reminded her in my
post that her work was titled "Comments please".

Folks are quite a bit more upfront here, and we definitely have more
discussions than I have ever seen on Google+. How can
you have a discussion if you are too busy to type more than one
sentence? They even encourage this with "+1".

OFWW writes:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 20:18:53 -0400, Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted "Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.

If your post requires more than 60 seconds of thought, expect to have
it dropped from the forum most places. If you need longer than a
minute, disconnect from the forum, do your thinking in Notepad or
Word, select and copy the text, sign back into the forum, post your
reply.

That's one reason I use Forte Agent - all reading and posting are done
on the PC and there are no timeouts.

No, it wasn't dropped. I was able to view the person's work from my
wife's account, but no longer from mine.

It really about the poster than the technology. "Comments please"--but
only one's which polish my ego.

For the amount of posting, there is very little in the way of
constructive criticism that takes place there, maybe because
it takes work, and maybe because people are afraid of offending one
another. And maybe because some folks will
delete it and block you if you cast any their way! I reminded her in my
post that her work was titled "Comments please".

Folks are quite a bit more upfront here, and we definitely have more
discussions than I have ever seen on Google+. How can
you have a discussion if you are too busy to type more than one
sentence? They even encourage this with "+1".




Bill, GGroups have nothing to do with the Usenet. Those are often
moderated groups and some will not allow posts from new users to
go immediately online without a review. Some of those have nazi
like moderators who like to control things, some are just there
for the fun of it. Don't let it make you all paranoid. On the
Usenet most of the time posts cannot be deleted anymore.

Bill says right in the subject line that he's referring to google+,
which is google's facebook lookalike. He's not referring to google
groups, or usenet.

"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message ...

OFWW writes:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 20:18:53 -0400, Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended to
be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted "Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.

Bill says right in the subject line that he's referring to google+,
which is google's facebook lookalike. He's not referring to google
groups, or usenet.

But his opening sentence reads "Google+ groups." Maybe different tools are
being mixed up in this discussion?

John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message
...

OFWW writes:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 20:18:53 -0400, Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended
to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted
"Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible
to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.

Bill says right in the subject line that he's referring to google+,
which is google's facebook lookalike. He's not referring to google
groups, or usenet.

But his opening sentence reads "Google+ groups." Maybe different tools
are being mixed up in this discussion?



I was referring to the *Communities* in Google+. If those aren't Google
groups, then I just learned something new.

And I'm not being "paranoid". It just ticked me off that the person
whose picture I was commented on was able to easily
delete comments I spent 45 minutes of honest effort constructing for the
sake of discussion. Especially, after she titled her
post "Comments please". If if was not for that, I would not have not
invested the time.

Cheers,
Bill

Bill writes:
John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message
...

OFWW writes:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 20:18:53 -0400, Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended
to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted
"Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible
to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.

Bill says right in the subject line that he's referring to google+,
which is google's facebook lookalike. He's not referring to google
groups, or usenet.

But his opening sentence reads "Google+ groups." Maybe different tools
are being mixed up in this discussion?



I was referring to the *Communities* in Google+. If those aren't Google
groups, then I just learned something new.



Usenet (archived by Deja-News, deja-news absorbed by Google)
Google Groups (google's public forums, superset of usenet, i.e. it
includes all usenet groups + google only discussion groups)
Google+ communities (google+ only, moderated communities)

=====

Usenet is a distributed data store (there is no single central
location managing or storing the groups - group content is replicated
across all usenet servers).

Google non-usenet Groups are stored and maintained by google only.

Google+ communities, facebook-like.

Scott Lurndal wrote:
Bill writes:
John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message
...

OFWW writes:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 20:18:53 -0400, Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 17:45:46 -0400, Bill
wrote:

I'm new to the Google+ groups, but a little while ago I posted one or
two comments (representing about 45 minutes of thinking), intended
to be
constructive, about a drawing/painting that was titled "Comments
please". Then I noticed that my comments were gone, and I posted
"Did
you delete my comments?" Then the person's work was not visible
to me
(so I suppose they blocked me). Me, Bill!!! : ) It reminds me of
the "mommification" thread.
Bill says right in the subject line that he's referring to google+,
which is google's facebook lookalike. He's not referring to google
groups, or usenet.
But his opening sentence reads "Google+ groups." Maybe different tools
are being mixed up in this discussion?


I was referring to the *Communities* in Google+. If those aren't Google
groups, then I just learned something new.


Usenet (archived by Deja-News, deja-news absorbed by Google)
Google Groups (google's public forums, superset of usenet, i.e. it
includes all usenet groups + google only discussion groups)
Google+ communities (google+ only, moderated communities)

=====

Usenet is a distributed data store (there is no single central
location managing or storing the groups - group content is replicated
across all usenet servers).

Google non-usenet Groups are stored and maintained by google only.

Google+ communities, facebook-like.

Thank you for the clarification/history Scott. I'm glad Usenet is
distributed and hope it's stays non-proprietary.