Some time ago I posted asking for ideas about some "L" shaped sofa tables
I'm planning to build to wrap around an "L shaped sectional. I thank all
who responded.

It is going to be a while before I get around to actually building them but
I've stolen some moments from my hectic, what doc do I see today retirement
life to diddle around with SketchUp to figure out what I'm going to do when
I actually DO get around to chopping wood.

For any of you who might be muttering, "WTF is SketchUp?", here is a jpeg of
the tables as they will be. Someday.
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio..._table_pic.jpg

For those of you who know and love SketchUp and view it as quite possibly
one of the most useful programs ever written, here is a link to the skp...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...able_model.skp

If you do look at the model file I'd be interested in any comments, negative
or positive. I pretty well have it in my head as to how I intend to build
it but ideas are always welcome. My current vacillation concerns
electrical. The tables sit 4' or so from the nearest wall and there will be
lamps on them; thoughtfully, I had a floor outlet installed when I built the
house but I'm still not set on how I'm going to pipe power to the nether
regions of the tables.

There are four main things in the model file:

1. all three tables hooked together, not much info as to how they will be
built. The long tables are one component, the little square one another.

2. a leg and portions of the top showing the structure

3. a leg and portions of the bottom shelf showing the structure

4. part of a leg and a height adjuster; I need this because the tables will
be sitting on a Saltillo tile floor and there is no way all legs will
automagically rest solidly.

Each of those items is on a separate layer. There are also layers for each
that contain my notes, comments, mutterings, etc.; I like to be able to turn
off all that text when I am drawing.

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On 11/20/2013 8:01 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Some time ago I posted asking for ideas about some "L" shaped sofa tables
I'm planning to build to wrap around an "L shaped sectional. I thank all
who responded.

Each of those items is on a separate layer. There are also layers for each
that contain my notes, comments, mutterings, etc.; I like to be able to turn
off all that text when I am drawing.

Nicely done. My only problem, which is the one I had at the beginning
when I started thinking about your original post, is trying to do
something with that "forest of legs" at the inside corner.

I'm wondering if tapered legs, or maybe a bevel on the inside corner of
all legs, might mitigate that visual somewhat?

With regard to Sketchup, good to see you using layers for organizing
your drawings.

You might want to now consider using "Scenes" in conjunction with your
"Layers",

By assigning only those layers you want to a particular "Scene", you can
organize your drawings much better for both presentation and printing.

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On 11/20/2013 8:01 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Some time ago I posted asking for ideas about some "L" shaped sofa tables
I'm planning to build to wrap around an "L shaped sectional. I thank all
who responded.

It is going to be a while before I get around to actually building them but
I've stolen some moments from my hectic, what doc do I see today retirement
life to diddle around with SketchUp to figure out what I'm going to do when
I actually DO get around to chopping wood.

For any of you who might be muttering, "WTF is SketchUp?", here is a jpeg of
the tables as they will be. Someday.
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio..._table_pic.jpg

For those of you who know and love SketchUp and view it as quite possibly
one of the most useful programs ever written, here is a link to the skp...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...able_model.skp

If you do look at the model file I'd be interested in any comments, negative
or positive. I pretty well have it in my head as to how I intend to build
it but ideas are always welcome. My current vacillation concerns
electrical. The tables sit 4' or so from the nearest wall and there will be
lamps on them; thoughtfully, I had a floor outlet installed when I built the
house but I'm still not set on how I'm going to pipe power to the nether
regions of the tables.

There are four main things in the model file:

1. all three tables hooked together, not much info as to how they will be
built. The long tables are one component, the little square one another.

2. a leg and portions of the top showing the structure

3. a leg and portions of the bottom shelf showing the structure

4. part of a leg and a height adjuster; I need this because the tables will
be sitting on a Saltillo tile floor and there is no way all legs will
automagically rest solidly.

Each of those items is on a separate layer. There are also layers for each
that contain my notes, comments, mutterings, etc.; I like to be able to turn
off all that text when I am drawing.


Nice design!

As the drawing indicates the bottoms of the table tops and bottom
shelves are filled in with no hollow space. I think I would leave that
open, don't close in the bottoms and hide the electrical in that open
hollow space.




And to add to what Swingman said, and concerning the use of Sketchup..;~)

I see that you have made the main units in to components but those
appear to be only a part of a small number of components. You
absolutely should make each and every one of the pieces of the project
into components separately.
When each and every part is made into a component the pieces no longer
stick together and editing is 1,000 times easier and faster.

Once I have put all of my components together to form the project or a
section of a project I keep them together by making them into a "group"
vs. a component.

Swingman wrote:


Nicely done. My only problem, which is the one I had at the beginning
when I started thinking about your original post, is trying to do
something with that "forest of legs" at the inside corner.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder they say, and since my eyes aren't
worth crap anymore, I guess that says something about what I think looks
good or bad... I see what Karl is referring to, but I just don't think it
looks all that bad. But like I say...

--

-Mike-

"Swingman" wrote in message

On 11/20/2013 8:01 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Some time ago I posted asking for ideas about some "L"
shaped sofa tables I'm planning to build to wrap around
an "L shaped sectional. I thank all who responded.

Each of those items is on a separate layer. There are
also layers for each that contain my notes, comments,
mutterings, etc.; I like to be able to turn off all
that text when I am drawing.

Nicely done. My only problem, which is the one I had at
the beginning when I started thinking about your original
post, is trying to do something with that "forest of
legs" at the inside corner.

Yes, the legs are a nuisance. As it is now, the corner table only has one
leg (outside corner) but there is still a lot going on at the inside
corner...that is true even if I dump the hollow chase for electric cord..

I tried a drawing without the corner table, making the long ones meet at a
miter. That definitely helped with the legs but I didn't care for the
general appearance.

I also tried drawing solid panels on the inside sides of the square table.
That too helped - and it wasn't bad looking - but I still prefer the way it
is now. I may change my mind - or try something else - as I have a long
time and many things to do before I can even start on them.
__________________

I'm wondering if tapered legs, or maybe a bevel on the
inside corner of all legs, might mitigate that visual
somewhat?

I'll try it.
____________________

With regard to Sketchup, good to see you using layers for
organizing your drawings.

You might want to now consider using "Scenes" in
conjunction with your "Layers",

By assigning only those layers you want to a particular
"Scene", you can organize your drawings much better for
both presentation and printing.

Thanks for the tip.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message

On 11/20/2013 8:01 AM, dadiOH wrote:
Some time ago I posted asking for ideas about some "L"
shaped sofa tables I'm planning to build to wrap around
an "L shaped sectional. I thank all who responded.

It is going to be a while before I get around to
actually building them but I've stolen some moments
from my hectic, what doc do I see today retirement life
to diddle around with SketchUp to figure out what I'm
going to do when I actually DO get around to chopping
wood. For any of you who might be muttering, "WTF is
SketchUp?", here is a jpeg of the tables as they will
be. Someday.
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio..._table_pic.jpg

For those of you who know and love SketchUp and view it
as quite possibly one of the most useful programs ever
written, here is a link to the skp...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...able_model.skp

If you do look at the model file I'd be interested in
any comments, negative or positive. I pretty well have
it in my head as to how I intend to build it but ideas
are always welcome. My current vacillation concerns
electrical. The tables sit 4' or so from the nearest
wall and there will be lamps on them; thoughtfully, I
had a floor outlet installed when I built the house but
I'm still not set on how I'm going to pipe power to the
nether regions of the tables. There are four main things in the model
file:

1. all three tables hooked together, not much info as
to how they will be built. The long tables are one
component, the little square one another. 2. a leg and portions of the
top showing the structure

3. a leg and portions of the bottom shelf showing the
structure 4. part of a leg and a height adjuster; I need this
because the tables will be sitting on a Saltillo tile
floor and there is no way all legs will automagically
rest solidly. Each of those items is on a separate layer. There are
also layers for each that contain my notes, comments,
mutterings, etc.; I like to be able to turn off all
that text when I am drawing.

Nice design!

Thanks.

As the drawing indicates the bottoms of the table tops
and bottom shelves are filled in with no hollow space. I
think I would leave that open, don't close in the bottoms
and hide the electrical in that open hollow space.

It is open. The drawing with all three tables together doesn't show that as
it was sort of a "down & dirty" one just so I could get an idea of what it
would look like finished. The deyails are in the other drawings.

And to add to what Swingman said, and concerning the use
of Sketchup..;~)
I see that you have made the main units in to components
but those appear to be only a part of a small number of
components. You absolutely should make each and every
one of the pieces of the project into components
separately. When each and every part is made into a component the
pieces no longer stick together and editing is 1,000
times easier and faster.

I know that and I agree whole heartedly. Knowing and agreeing is one thing,
remembering to do it is another


--

dadiOH
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"dadiOH" wrote:

Yes, the legs are a nuisance. As it is now, the corner table only
has one leg (outside corner) but there is still a lot going on at
the inside corner...that is true even if I dump the hollow chase for
electric cord..
---------------------------------------------------
Just to keep the design juices flowing, try thinking French cleat.

The small table could hook into each of the larger tables thus totally
eliminating the legs presently req'd to support the small table.

Probably not an end solution, but it could lead to other things.

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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Just to keep the design juices flowing, try thinking "dadiOH" wrote:

Yes, the legs are a nuisance. As it is now, the corner
table only has one leg (outside corner) but there is
still a lot going on at the inside corner...that is
true even if I dump the hollow chase for electric cord..
---------------------------------------------------

French cleat.
The small table could hook into each of the larger tables
thus totally eliminating the legs presently req'd to
support the small table.

It is sort of like that now...the long tables hook to it via draw bolts. I
chose those instead of French cleats because they can be removed so a long
table can be used separately, should the need/desire arise. That's true of
French cleats true so I may well do it that way.

The square table has one leg at the outside corner so that if someone such
as my blubber braned brother in law sits on it stuff doesn't pull out.
Fortunately, he doesn't come here often but seems to damage things when he
does. One time he popped through the cane seat of an antique rocker; he
did so because he falls rather than sits.

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On 11/20/2013 11:05 AM, dadiOH wrote:
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And to add to what Swingman said, and concerning the use
of Sketchup..;~)
I see that you have made the main units in to components
but those appear to be only a part of a small number of
components. You absolutely should make each and every
one of the pieces of the project into components
separately. When each and every part is made into a component the
pieces no longer stick together and editing is 1,000
times easier and faster.

I know that and I agree whole heartedly. Knowing and agreeing is one thing,
remembering to do it is another




LOL, I remember forgetting. HUH? It took me a few months to remember
to make a set of lines into a component as I would finish a rail and
immediately draw a stile using the rail as a reference and every thing
got sticky.

You have to remember that you are not drawing, so to speak, you are
creating parts.

In article , Swingman
wrote:

Nicely done. My only problem, which is the one I had at the beginning
when I started thinking about your original post, is trying to do
something with that "forest of legs" at the inside corner.

dadiOH,

Coming in late... Why three tables? Why not two, one longer than the
other?

djb

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Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to
read. - Groucho Marx

"Dave Balderstone" wrote
in message
news:211120131030344361%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderst one.ca
In article
, Swingman
wrote:

Nicely done. My only problem, which is the one I had at
the beginning when I started thinking about your
original post, is trying to do something with that
"forest of legs" at the inside corner.

dadiOH,

Coming in late... Why three tables? Why not two, one
longer than the other?

djb

Symmetry

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dadiOH
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