Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs

Thanks.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:24:50 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs

I have not used that product personally, but watched someone with no experience apply it. I was refinishing and hanging doors at a country club while they were renovating, and one of the hands on managers gave that stuff a whirl on a small side bar inside the lounge. It worked perfectly, and even got to the mirror shine by itself.

He used a small plastic spatula to move the material around and instead of using some kind of torch (too hot, open flame) or a hair dryer (not enough heat) he used an $8 heat gun from HF and it worked fine. The end results made the bar top look like a bar top; wood with a thick, heavy plastic coating on it. It dried HARD, and was in use in about 48 hours after application..

Robert

"Michael" wrote:

Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs

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Haven't used this specific product but have used in excess of 10,000
pounds of
System Three laminating epoxy with no problems.


Lew

On 10/23/2013 10:24 AM, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs

Thanks.

I used a product like that or that product, don't remember the brand,
about 30 years ago. Worked easily and well. Did a bar and it was easy
and offers good durability.

Just to test it b4 the bar, put a picture on a slab of wood and covered
it with a cup full of mixture... I was impressed with it.

--
Jeff

On 10/23/2013 12:26 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Michael" wrote:

Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs

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Haven't used this specific product but have used in excess of 10,000
pounds of
System Three laminating epoxy with no problems.


Lew


I would have figured you would have used west systems Lew for the sailboat.

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Jeff

"woodchucker" wrote:

I would have figured you would have used west systems Lew for the
sailboat.
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It's competitive business.

West was no where close, they are mostly in the retail world.

What a lot of people don't realize is that there are only 3-4 part "A"
suppliers.

Shell and Dow in the US, forgot who is in Europe.

The action is with the formulators of the part "B" (Hardeners) of
which West and S-3
are players.

Lew

On 10/23/2013 10:01 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"woodchucker" wrote:

I would have figured you would have used west systems Lew for the
sailboat.
----------------------------
It's competitive business.

West was no where close, they are mostly in the retail world.

What a lot of people don't realize is that there are only 3-4 part "A"
suppliers.

Shell and Dow in the US, forgot who is in Europe.

The action is with the formulators of the part "B" (Hardeners) of
which West and S-3
are players.

Lew


I knew about Shell they have some pretty sophisticated Epoxies.
I did not know that West was more retail, I thought S3 was the newer
comer... but I'll admit I don't know that much, other than using West
mostly for building composite planes. I know about shell from a friend
who fabricates for high end motorcycles... he does exhausts and other
parts from carbon fiber, so he buys the shell epoxies that are ok for
high temp ...



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Jeff

On 10/23/2013 9:07 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 10/23/2013 10:24 AM, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs


Thanks.

I used a product like that or that product, don't remember the brand,
about 30 years ago. Worked easily and well. Did a bar and it was easy
and offers good durability.

Just to test it b4 the bar, put a picture on a slab of wood and covered
it with a cup full of mixture... I was impressed with it.

Forgot to mention, the product was so good on the bar, I also used it on
a darkroom table, found the finish to be chemical resistant.. Not stain
resistant, but it didn't hurt the finish..

Acetic acids, developers.. etc. on a pressboard tabletop.. coated both
sides and got the protection I was looking for. no puff up of the
pressboard, so it kept the underlying pressboard dry.

--
Jeff

"woodchucker" wrote:

I knew about Shell they have some pretty sophisticated Epoxies.
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It's the formulators that develop the finished resin systems by
developing the hardeners.
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I did not know that West was more retail, I thought S3 was the
newer comer... but I'll admit I don't know that much, other than
using West mostly for building composite planes. I know about shell
from a friend who fabricates for high end motorcycles... he does
exhausts and other parts from carbon fiber, so he buys the shell
epoxies that are ok for high temp ...
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West was first into the market followed by several others in a hurry.

Is carbon fiber still on allocation?

Golf clubs, hockey sticks and sail boat masts are just a few uses
these days for carbon.

Lew

"woodchucker" wrote:

I knew about Shell they have some pretty sophisticated Epoxies.
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What I forgot to mention that at one time I was buying resin (Part A)
in 500 lb (55 Gal) drums from a guy who was buying from Shell in
railroad tank cars.

He was supplying a wind turbine blade manufacturer.

There are all kind of "deals" if you shop around for them.

Lew

On 10/23/2013 10:52 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"woodchucker" wrote:

I knew about Shell they have some pretty sophisticated Epoxies.
---------------------------------------------------
It's the formulators that develop the finished resin systems by
developing the hardeners.
--------------------------------------------------

I did not know that West was more retail, I thought S3 was the
newer comer... but I'll admit I don't know that much, other than
using West mostly for building composite planes. I know about shell
from a friend who fabricates for high end motorcycles... he does
exhausts and other parts from carbon fiber, so he buys the shell
epoxies that are ok for high temp ...
----------------------------------------------
West was first into the market followed by several others in a hurry.

Is carbon fiber still on allocation?

Not sure I understand what you mean. If it means limited allocation ,
yes it is very hard to get and very expensive. The aerospace industry
and so many others have pretty much got dibs, anyone else is scratching
for it, scraps... It used to be so available with aluminum aircraft.
Carbon fiber takes a long while to make compared to aluminum.

Golf clubs, hockey sticks and sail boat masts are just a few uses
these days for carbon.

Lew




--
Jeff

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:24:50 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?



http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs



Thanks.

Thanks for input! I'm now re-thinking the whole bar top idea. I made a coffee table out of knotty pine (very soft wood but matches the decor of the room). It gets heavy use and needs a re-finish, but now I'm debating whether I want that heavy plastic look on top. I'm thinking not.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:24:50 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?



http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs



Thanks.

Just curious, when you use this product, do you have to put a "fence" around the edges to keep it from running or is it this enough to stay put?

Bill L.

On 10/25/2013 10:23 AM, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:24:50 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?



http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs



Thanks.

Just curious, when you use this product, do you have to put a "fence" around the edges to keep it from running or is it this enough to stay put?

Bill L.


yes, it will drip off the edge if it's too close to it.

On 10/25/2013 1:23 PM, Bill Leonhardt wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:24:50 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:
Has anyone used this product? If so, what say ye?



http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/200...0&Anchor=pTabs



Thanks.

Just curious, when you use this product, do you have to put a "fence" around the edges to keep it from running or is it this enough to stay put?

Bill L.


That depends.
It will run off the edge, but not like water.

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Jeff