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Cherry/Lacewood Side Table
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.
This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 |
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wrote ... I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Looks nice. I have seen lacewood before. How durable/hard is it? Also how expensive is it? |
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On Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:40:39 PM UTC-4, Lee Michaels wrote:
wrote ... I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Looks nice. I have seen lacewood before. How durable/hard is it? Also how expensive is it? I got it from Woodcraft as my lumberyard does not carry it approx $9/bdft It seems hard enough but feels deceivingly light when held. A pleasure to work and has a strange smell when cut. |
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I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Very nice and I like your wooden pull. Did you make that too? And Is it just the lighting in the picture that makes that second top board to appear with so much contrast to the other top boards? |
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On Monday, July 1, 2013 8:53:12 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Very nice and I like your wooden pull. Did you make that too? And Is it just the lighting in the picture that makes that second top board to appear with so much contrast to the other top boards? Thank you. Yes I made the pull. The contrast isn't as dramatic in person but the grain does vary. |
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On Monday, July 1, 2013 4:22:06 PM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t While I don't agree with you, you must keep in mind that this project was done as a build-a-long for my viewers. While I think the piece is beautiful as is and doesn't need extra embellishment, I didn't want to add extra features that might be outside of the skill level of some of the build-a-long participants. Everyone has their own taste as to what they find appealing in a piece of furniture. I'm sure you could have expressed your taste and dislikes w/o actually sounding like a high-school'er in the process, but you chose not to and thus your comments reflect more on your character than on my craftsmanship. The random mindless/thoughtless comment are what I've come to expect at the wrec so no harm done. Cheers, BG For info on the build-a-long go he http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum...ad.php?tid=265 |
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That is lovely. Just saw the pix. Looking forward to taking in the movie.
On Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:17:05 PM UTC-5, wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 |
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Cherry/Lacewood Side Table
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I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Somehow I couldn't get the videos to play. -- GW Ross Let he who takes the plunge remember to return it! |
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Cherry/Lacewood Side Table
Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. Tommy Boy, Flames? Let me be the first. Apparently you have no fricking taste at all. This project is a classic, stickley-esque presentation of beautiful wood, excellently executed. This is soul-less? You are soul-less apparently looking only for beauty is some over adorned and tortured application of all that is complex. Simplicity is beauty. I typically hate mixed-species wood projects. Walnut breadboards on a cherry table top make me puke. What we have here is an intelligent combination of Lace and Cherry, beautiful, simple lines, classic dovetails, utilitarian yet beautiful wood pull. It really is a shame you can't see how beautifully simple and simply beautiful this piece is. Can you please point us to the multiple pages of project pictures that you have that shows some of your imaginative and soul-full designs. By the way, simple lives for ever in design. Other descriptions of imaginative and soul-full designs might be "trendy" "cliche" "crap", "WTF?", etc. From one of my heros... But it is true that oak, ash and elm properly treated, possess attractions that yield to those of no other woods. The undulations of their grain, the soft unobtrusive tones which they assume through skillful polish, the color-play which runs over their smooth surface are qualities which to be appreciated need only to be fairly observed. Gustave Stickley The Craftsman, Vol. 1, NO. 1, 1901 |
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On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? |
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Cherry/Lacewood Side Table
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? |
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On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. |
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Video: Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89 Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90 Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91 Would have liked to see the video, but got a message that blip wants me to turn something off so was unable to watch. Mike M |
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On 7/2/2013 8:58 AM, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Yeah! Saw them, thanks, very nice! |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces. Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it. Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap. The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match. This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat. |
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces. Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it. Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap. The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match. This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat. Hahahahaha! |
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces. Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it. Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap. The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match. This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat. Sounds as though you're describing your own work.............. |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:54:07 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces. Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it. Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap. The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match. This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat. Sounds as though you're describing your own work.............. You did more damage to yourself with your ABPW post than any zinger I could send your way in retort  |
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces. Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it. Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap. The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match. This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat. Brian your work is good enough you don't have to go therre Mike M |
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On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:54:07 -0400, tommyboy wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote: On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote: On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop project. t Could you show us some examples of your work? Yes I could. A.B.P.W. Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces. Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it. Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap. The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match. This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat. Sounds as though you're describing your own work.............. Wouldn't it have been easier to just say the design wasn't one you have chosen instead of making it personal. Mike M |
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This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected. |
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
wrote: This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected. Ignorance is bliss. |
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On 7/2/2013 10:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected. No, actually what he posted is pretty darn good, especially the Sam Maloof style chair. |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:41:12 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 7/2/2013 10:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote: This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected. No, actually what he posted is pretty darn good, especially the Sam Maloof style chair. Unfortunately attempting to copy Sam Maloof doesn't demonstrate imagination.. It is one of the MOST copied chair styles as demonstrated by visiting any woodworking forum on the internet. It's so over done it borders on boredom. And it was a swing and a miss per the points I made. |
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wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:40:01 PM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? You felt so insecure about yourself after I ripped on your projects that you felt the need to browse around my website. I've come across your type before. You've probably been to my website in the past. And I'm guessing that your initial tantrum has more to do with jealousy than an honest critique of my projects. |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:41:12 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 7/2/2013 10:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote: This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected. No, actually what he posted is pretty darn good, especially the Sam Maloof style chair. Unfortunately attempting to copy Sam Maloof doesn't demonstrate imagination. It is one of the MOST copied chair styles as demonstrated by visiting any woodworking forum on the internet. It's so over done it borders on boredom. And it was a swing and a miss per the points I made. Still it took a skill level and attention to detail that is beyond many here. He was a bit harsh in his opening statement concerning your table, hell I am probably the most guilty for doing that, but he voiced his opinion as you had asked. If the kitchen is too hot..... And I sorta went to your defense by requesting that he show his work, he did and it appears that he has been at this for quite some time. |
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wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? Now play nice. I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific need. Been there done that.. |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:03:11 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:41:12 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 7/2/2013 10:59 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote: This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected. No, actually what he posted is pretty darn good, especially the Sam Maloof style chair. Unfortunately attempting to copy Sam Maloof doesn't demonstrate imagination. It is one of the MOST copied chair styles as demonstrated by visiting any woodworking forum on the internet. It's so over done it borders on boredom. And it was a swing and a miss per the points I made. Still it took a skill level and attention to detail that is beyond many here. He stated that mu piece was "unimaginative, soul-less". Again, there is NO imagination used in copying another artist. I expected to see him show projects which demonstrated imagination. He showed nothing of the sort. Keep in mind that he has the opportunity to show his best work. I was far from impressed and from his 'mouth-off' I expected much more. He was a bit harsh in his opening statement concerning your table, hell I am probably the most guilty for doing that, but he voiced his opinion as you had asked. If the kitchen is too hot..... Yes I asked for criticism. As I said above - he could have expressed what he liked and didn't like w/o the 'high school workmanship' - like commentary. Agree? And I sorta went to your defense by requesting that he show his work, he did and it appears that he has been at this for quite some time. I disagree. His craftsmanship is below average at best. |
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Leon writes:
tommyboy wrote: wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? Now play nice. Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism) doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian. Definitely a shaker-style, minimilistic piece. I do mostly shaker-style stuff myself, and there's nothing wrong with that style of woodworking. As for criticism, the proportions of Brian's side table didn't look natural to me, but the lacewood and cherry looked nice and the workmanship was certainly workmanlike. Bookmatching the top would have added to the effect of the piece, I think, perhaps by resawing the solid lacewood into veneers. But if Brian and his cohort like it, that's really all that matters. I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific need. Been there done that.. Indeed. |
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On 7/2/2013 5:25 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Leon writes: tommyboy wrote: wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? Now play nice. Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism) doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian. I am probably the worlds worse for firing back but he really did not have a leg to stand on. Definitely a shaker-style, minimilistic piece. I do mostly shaker-style stuff myself, and there's nothing wrong with that style of woodworking. Absolutely agree and, ;~),I noticed that there was a more reasonable amount of glue used on this "educational episode". As for criticism, the proportions of Brian's side table didn't look natural to me, but the lacewood and cherry looked nice and the workmanship was certainly workmanlike. Bookmatching the top would have added to the effect of the piece, I think, perhaps by resawing the solid lacewood into veneers. Well it was his piece and it looked nice but going a bit further I would not have used the lace on the top at all, rather I think it would have had a more balanced look hed he used the same design and used the lace on the aprons and drawer front. Used cherry for legs, drawer pull, and top. But that is just my way of thinking and really did would not have been a suggestion for better design. But if Brian and his cohort like it, that's really all that matters. Exactly! Only when you sell your work do you need to "worry" about what anyone else has to say. I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific need. Been there done that.. Indeed. |
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 8:03:13 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
On 7/2/2013 5:25 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Leon writes: tommyboy wrote: wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? Now play nice. Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism) doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian. I am probably the worlds worse for firing back but he really did not have a leg to stand on. Definitely a shaker-style, minimilistic piece. I do mostly shaker-style stuff myself, and there's nothing wrong with that style of woodworking. Absolutely agree and, ;~),I noticed that there was a more reasonable amount of glue used on this "educational episode". Educational episode deserves to be in quotes? Nice one Leon. As for criticism, the proportions of Brian's side table didn't look natural to me, but the lacewood and cherry looked nice and the workmanship was certainly workmanlike. Bookmatching the top would have added to the effect of the piece, I think, perhaps by resawing the solid lacewood into veneers. Well it was his piece and it looked nice but going a bit further I would not have used the lace on the top at all, rather I think it would have had a more balanced look hed he used the same design and used the lace on the aprons and drawer front. Used cherry for legs, drawer pull, and top. But that is just my way of thinking and really did would not have been a suggestion for better design. But if Brian and his cohort like it, that's really all that matters. Exactly! Only when you sell your work do you need to "worry" about what anyone else has to say. I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific need. Been there done that.. Indeed. |
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On 7/2/2013 7:51 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:42:38 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 7/2/2013 5:14 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:03:11 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: wrote: appears that he has been at this for quite some time. I disagree. His craftsmanship is below average at best. You have not been at this long enough to know. No. I can smell crap when it's in front of me. Takes no amount of experience. Ok, it's obvious you are hurt, but you still think it is crap, and I don't. His work shows some real ability. I had decided to let this post go when you asked for opinions. I felt that it was better to let it go. I guess I wasn't wrong. Your reaction is childish and over the top, way over. Yes his criticism cut like a knife, and may have been over the top too. But you lost me in your response. You could have done 2 things, take the high road, cursed him out and been done with it. When you keep going it just makes you look smaller. -- Jeff |
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wrote: Yes I asked for criticism. ----------------------------------------- You may mouth the words, but you definitely are not interested in receiving the criticism. This is not the first time you have lost it when someone has offered a criticism of your work that you have requested. Have a beer and smell the roses before you pop a blood vessel. Lew |
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On 7/2/2013 7:20 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 8:03:13 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote: On 7/2/2013 5:25 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Leon writes: tommyboy wrote: wrote: I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching. This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood. Criticism ok. Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures) http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120. What color is the sky on your planet?? Now play nice. Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism) doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian. I am probably the worlds worse for firing back but he really did not have a leg to stand on. Definitely a shaker-style, minimilistic piece. I do mostly shaker-style stuff myself, and there's nothing wrong with that style of woodworking. Absolutely agree and, ;~),I noticed that there was a more reasonable amount of glue used on this "educational episode". Educational episode deserves to be in quotes? Nice one Leon. Exactly, credit deserved and to be brought into recognition. |
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If you want to show your woodworking skills, that's one thing. If you want to shill for Disney as the price of admission to view your work, then perform aerial intercourse on a rotating annular spheroid. Lew |
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