I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

wrote ...
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're
interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it
worked for such a highly figured wood.

Looks nice. I have seen lacewood before.

How durable/hard is it? Also how expensive is it?

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:40:39 PM UTC-4, Lee Michaels wrote:
wrote ...

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're

interested in watching.



This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it

worked for such a highly figured wood.



Looks nice. I have seen lacewood before.



How durable/hard is it? Also how expensive is it?

I got it from Woodcraft as my lumberyard does not carry it approx $9/bdft

It seems hard enough but feels deceivingly light when held. A pleasure to work and has a strange smell when cut.

wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're
interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it
worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

Very nice and I like your wooden pull. Did you make that too? And Is it
just the lighting in the picture that makes that second top board to appear
with so much contrast to the other top boards?

On Monday, July 1, 2013 8:53:12 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
wrote:

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're

interested in watching.



This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it

worked for such a highly figured wood.



Criticism ok.



Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Video:

Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89

Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90

Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91



Very nice and I like your wooden pull. Did you make that too? And Is it

just the lighting in the picture that makes that second top board to appear

with so much contrast to the other top boards?

Thank you. Yes I made the pull. The contrast isn't as dramatic in person but the grain does vary.

wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're
interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it
worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some
fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120.
What color is the sky on your planet??

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:40:01 PM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
wrote:

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're

interested in watching.



This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it

worked for such a highly figured wood.



Criticism ok.



Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php







Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some

fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120.

What color is the sky on your planet??

You felt so insecure about yourself after I ripped on your projects that you felt the need to browse around my website.

I've come across your type before. You've probably been to my website in the past. And I'm guessing that your initial tantrum has more to do with jealousy than an honest critique of my projects.

tommyboy wrote:
wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're
interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it
worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some
fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120.
What color is the sky on your planet??

Now play nice. I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will
pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific
need. Been there done that..

Leon writes:
tommyboy wrote:
wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're
interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it
worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some
fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120.
What color is the sky on your planet??

Now play nice.

Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper
tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism)
doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian.

Definitely a shaker-style, minimilistic piece. I do mostly shaker-style
stuff myself, and there's nothing wrong with that style of woodworking.

As for criticism, the proportions of Brian's side table didn't look natural
to me, but the lacewood and cherry looked nice and the workmanship was
certainly workmanlike. Bookmatching the top would have added to the
effect of the piece, I think, perhaps by resawing the solid lacewood into
veneers.

But if Brian and his cohort like it, that's really all that matters.

I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will
pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific
need. Been there done that..

Indeed.

On 7/2/2013 5:25 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Leon writes:
tommyboy wrote:
wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're
interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it
worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Wasted enough time on this so here's my final comment. You expect some
fool to give you $1,200. for that "table?" You'd be lucky to get $120.
What color is the sky on your planet??

Now play nice.

Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper
tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism)
doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian.

I am probably the worlds worse for firing back but he really did not
have a leg to stand on.


Definitely a shaker-style, minimilistic piece. I do mostly shaker-style
stuff myself, and there's nothing wrong with that style of woodworking.

Absolutely agree and, ;~),I noticed that there was a more reasonable
amount of glue used on this "educational episode".




As for criticism, the proportions of Brian's side table didn't look natural
to me, but the lacewood and cherry looked nice and the workmanship was
certainly workmanlike. Bookmatching the top would have added to the
effect of the piece, I think, perhaps by resawing the solid lacewood into
veneers.

Well it was his piece and it looked nice but going a bit further I would
not have used the lace on the top at all, rather I think it would have
had a more balanced look hed he used the same design and used the lace
on the aprons and drawer front. Used cherry for legs, drawer pull, and
top. But that is just my way of thinking and really did would not have
been a suggestion for better design.




But if Brian and his cohort like it, that's really all that matters.

Exactly! Only when you sell your work do you need to "worry" about what
anyone else has to say.



I can assure you that there are a lot of people that will
pay a very large sum of money for a piece, especially if it fits a specific
need. Been there done that..

Indeed.

Yeah, asking for criticism (quote: Criticism ok) then throwing a temper

tantrum when criticism is received (albeit snarky and uncalled-for criticism)

doesn't leave an observer with a good impression of Brian.



Well, I was actually the first one who jumped in with a "Flame" for Tommy boy, who had actually encouraged me to do so with his comment about expecting flames for his post. Maybe I encouraged Garage boy by coming down on his side, which isn't always the case, I have trashed his stuff before as well.

Tommy has the right to his opinion, and criticism was requested but I felt it was over the top in terms of harshness (is that a word?)and more denigrating than necessary so I jumped in to provide some defense, assuming Garage boy would likely not.

I never did see Tommy's work (can't see fricking ABPW via my Google reader) and I loved Sam Maloof, he was a sweet and talented man and I learned a few things from him over the years but I have no love for that swoopy design type stuff so likely would be unimpressed.

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most
unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take
this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your
choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop
project.

t

On Monday, July 1, 2013 4:22:06 PM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:



I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.



This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.



Criticism ok.



Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Video:

Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89

Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90

Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91



Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most

unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take

this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your

choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop

project.



t

While I don't agree with you, you must keep in mind that this project was done as a build-a-long for my viewers. While I think the piece is beautiful as is and doesn't need extra embellishment, I didn't want to add extra features that might be outside of the skill level of some of the build-a-long participants.

Everyone has their own taste as to what they find appealing in a piece of furniture. I'm sure you could have expressed your taste and dislikes w/o actually sounding like a high-school'er in the process, but you chose not to and thus your comments reflect more on your character than on my craftsmanship. The random mindless/thoughtless comment are what I've come to expect at the wrec so no harm done.

Cheers,
BG




For info on the build-a-long go he
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Forum...ad.php?tid=265

Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most

unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take

this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your

choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop

project.

Tommy Boy,

Flames? Let me be the first. Apparently you have no fricking taste at all. This project is a classic, stickley-esque presentation of beautiful wood, excellently executed. This is soul-less? You are soul-less apparently looking only for beauty is some over adorned and tortured application of all that is complex.

Simplicity is beauty. I typically hate mixed-species wood projects. Walnut breadboards on a cherry table top make me puke. What we have here is an intelligent combination of Lace and Cherry, beautiful, simple lines, classic dovetails, utilitarian yet beautiful wood pull.

It really is a shame you can't see how beautifully simple and simply beautiful this piece is.

Can you please point us to the multiple pages of project pictures that you have that shows some of your imaginative and soul-full designs.

By the way, simple lives for ever in design. Other descriptions of imaginative and soul-full designs might be "trendy" "cliche" "crap", "WTF?", etc.

From one of my heros...
But it is true that oak, ash and elm properly treated, possess attractions that yield to those of no other woods. The undulations of their grain, the soft unobtrusive tones which they assume through skillful polish, the color-play which runs over their smooth surface are qualities which to be appreciated need only to be fairly observed.
Gustave Stickley The Craftsman, Vol. 1, NO. 1, 1901

On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most
unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take
this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your
choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop
project.

t


Could you show us some examples of your work?

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most
unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take
this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your
choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop
project.

t


Could you show us some examples of your work?

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),

Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most
unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take
this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your
choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop
project.

t


Could you show us some examples of your work?

Yes I could. A.B.P.W.

On 7/2/2013 8:58 AM, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),

Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most
unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take
this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your
choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop
project.

t


Could you show us some examples of your work?

Yes I could. A.B.P.W.



Yeah! Saw them, thanks, very nice!

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet

wrote:



On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),



Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most

unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take

this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your

choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop

project.



t





Could you show us some examples of your work?



Yes I could. A.B.P.W.

Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces.

Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it.

Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap.

The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match.



This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL

Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet

wrote:



On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),



Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most

unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take

this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your

choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop

project.



t





Could you show us some examples of your work?



Yes I could. A.B.P.W.

Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces.

Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it.

Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap.

The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match.



This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL

Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat.

Hahahahaha!

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet

wrote:



On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),



Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most

unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take

this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your

choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop

project.



t





Could you show us some examples of your work?



Yes I could. A.B.P.W.

Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces.

Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it.

Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap.

The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match.



This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL

Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat.

Sounds as though you're describing your own work..............

On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, tommyboy wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:49:54 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet

wrote:



On 7/1/2013 3:22 PM, tommyboy wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),



Well, let the flames begin, but Brian, that design is one of the most

unimaginative, soul-less designs I've ever seen. Now please don't take

this personally because your workmanship is impeccable as is your

choice of woods, but they are both wasted on this high school woodshop

project.



t





Could you show us some examples of your work?



Yes I could. A.B.P.W.

Let me start. By the way I hope these aren't your best pieces.

Your chair with the scrollsaw work is very high-school woodshop. The pattern you chose is very boreing and unimaginative. It has no sole. It looks very 2-dimensional with the straight faced sides and rails. The two species rail used in the headrest looks badly out of place. The cushion fabric makes me want to vomit. There is nothing special about it.

Very poor grain match in the carved chair back rail. It's very distracting. The arm resets look like they'd be very uncomfortable the way they jet upwards. The legs are too thin for the piece and don't fit with the scale. They look like they are ready to snap.

The crib is extremely country - not my taste at all. Very boring and unimaginative. There is absolutely nothing special about this piece either. The turnings are very dry and you also have a few that have bad color match.



This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL

Son, I am your Yoda Master if this is your best work. Now have a seat.

Brian your work is good enough you don't have to go therre

Mike M

This was the best you could offer to demonstrate your sole-full and imaginative workmanship? LOL



Rats, I never could figure out how to reliably get to the fricking ABPW so I'll just have to take others word that Mr. Tommyboy's work is crap, as I expected.

That is lovely. Just saw the pix. Looking forward to taking in the movie.

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 8:17:05 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.



This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.



Criticism ok.



Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)

http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php



Video:

Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89

Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90

Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

wrote:
I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

Somehow I couldn't get the videos to play.

--
 GW Ross 

 Let he who takes the plunge remember 
 to return it! 

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:17:05 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I recently finished a side table and I filmed the build process if you're interested in watching.

This was my first time using lacewood and I was happy with how easily it worked for such a highly figured wood.

Criticism ok.

Pictures: Bottom right titled "Side Table in Cherry/Lacewood" (three pictures)
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/projectspage1.php

Video:
Pt 1 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v89
Pt 2 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v90
Pt 3 http://www.garagewoodworks.com/video.php?video=v91

Would have liked to see the video, but got a message that blip wants
me to turn something off so was unable to watch.

Mike M