We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.

Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daubers
*LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with French
screen doors. The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierce
here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.

That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
could have bought them for. I'm glad I made them myself...prices ranged
from about $400-$979. And that was just the doors. At one place - the $979
place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.

Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...anai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

_____________________

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. A pain.

The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. Nah, better this way


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dadiOH
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I'm with you, that sounds like a lot of money.

Now days, it would have been three or four
times that (SWAG) to have it done for you.
You got off easy, by doing your own work.

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"dadiOH" wrote in message
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We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.

Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daubers
*LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with French
screen doors. The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierce
here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.

That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
could have bought them for. I'm glad I made them myself...prices ranged
from about $400-$979. And that was just the doors. At one place - the $979
place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.

Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...anai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

_____________________

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. A pain.

The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. Nah, better this way


--

dadiOH
____________________________

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dadiOH wrote:
We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled
garden. There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from
lanai to garden.


Nice! Very nice.

--

-Mike-

On 1/16/2013 1:19 PM, dadiOH wrote:

Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...anai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

_____________________

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. A pain.

The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. Nah, better this way


Stellar work ... simply said, you put the word "custom" back into custom
woodwork, including installation and trimout!

Here, this'll make you feel better, and give you an idea of the going
rate in this area. Less than two years back, client paid $3600 + for
this double custom door, and had my guys install (not trimmed out yet in
the photos) while we were there doing the kitchen and office:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1113554...CM_ogv38gLy5KA

IOW, you did much better than good, Bubba!

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"dadiOH" wrote:

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the
difficulties encountered. The primary one was that the masonry
arches were not symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they
weren't even symmetrical side to side; i.e., the short side on each
of a door pair was different. That means I couldn't just measure
the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit, had to make each one
individually. A pain.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For a minute there, thought you were describing a boat Grin.

Nice work.

IMHO, you got off dirt cheap.

Lew

On Jan 16, 2:19*pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.

Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daubers
*LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with French
screen doors. *The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierce
here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.

That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
could have bought them for. *I'm glad I made them myself...prices ranged
from about $400-$979. *And that was just the doors. *At one place - the $979
place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.

Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doorshttp://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

_____________________

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. *The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. *Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. *That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. *A pain.

The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. *I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. *That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. *I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. *Nah, better this way


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Are you sure you're not boasting....err....I mean posting so that we
can see the really nice doors you made?

Kidding! Not about the nice doors, about the boasting. ;-)

$550 for 4 custom arched doors, each a different out-of-plumb
size...installed? Dirt cheap.

Send your plans to a contractor and see what they come back with. I'll
bet they would be over $550 each.

Per dadiOH:
$550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...anai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

Can't speak to Florida, but up here near Philadelphia we had a
set of French floor-to-ceiling doors put in between the rec room
and the stairs that lead to the rest of the house.

Total was about $1,800 - and the doors are nothing special...
quite the opposite, in fact.

Should'a hired you.... -)
--
Pete Cresswell

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote:

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the
difficulties encountered. The primary one was that the masonry
arches were not symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they
weren't even symmetrical side to side; i.e., the short side on each
of a door pair was different. That means I couldn't just measure
the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit, had to make each one
individually. A pain.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For a minute there, thought you were describing a boat Grin.

Been there, done that. On my 42' ketch. Complete with course and raffee.

Cut and fit...cut and fit...

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net

"dadiOH" wrote in :

We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled
garden. There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from
lanai to garden.

Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud
daubers *LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the
arches with French screen doors. The lanai faces east and the summer
morning sun is fierce here in Florida so the secondary reason was to
diminish the sunlight.

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was
for lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for
screening materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into
dados in rails & stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface
bolts, some ply for a bending jig, door closers, weather strip
material, paint, etc.

That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see
what I could have bought them for. I'm glad I made them
myself...prices ranged from about $400-$979. And that was just the
doors. At one place - the $979 place - having them pre-hung doubled
the price.

Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the
past. What do you think, was $550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doors
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...anai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...
http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

_____________________

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the
difficulties encountered. The primary one was that the masonry arches
were not symmetrical; nor were they plumb. Hell, they weren't even
symmetrical side to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair
was different. That means I couldn't just measure the space to fill
and build a door X4 to fit, had to make each one individually. A
pain.

The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. I wanted the doors to abut
something on all edges to help deter insects. That meant I had to cut
down a strip of tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then
retile so I had about a 3/4" drop for the door to close against. I
could have avoided that by using door sweeps; if I had it to do over I
might do that. Nah, better this way


Exquisite work !!!

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Best regards
Han
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:19:22 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:

We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.


What the hell is a lanai?

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:20:14 -0600, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:19:22 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:

We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.


What the hell is a lanai?

A covered (usually back) porch.

On Jan 16, 1:19*pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled garden.
There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from lanai to
garden.

Originally, we intended to have those arches remain open but the mud daubers
*LOVE* to build on the lanai so I decided to enclose the arches with French
screen doors. *The lanai faces east and the summer morning sun is fierce
here in Florida so the secondary reason was to diminish the sunlight.

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.

That seemed kinda much to me so I just Googled a few places to see what I
could have bought them for. *I'm glad I made them myself...prices ranged
from about $400-$979. *And that was just the doors. *At one place - the $979
place - having them pre-hung doubled the price.

Admittedly, everything seems high to me now but I am semi-stuck in the past.
What do you think, was $550 about right?

Here are a couple of pix...

One set of doorshttp://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadioh/south-lanai-doors.jpg

Close-up of screen channel...http://www.floridaloghouse.net/dadio...en-channel.jpg

_____________________

As long as I'm posting, I might as well expound on some of the difficulties
encountered. *The primary one was that the masonry arches were not
symmetrical; nor were they plumb. *Hell, they weren't even symmetrical side
to side; i.e., the short side on each of a door pair was different. *That
means I couldn't just measure the space to fill and build a door X4 to fit,
had to make each one individually. *A pain.

The lanai was tiled, did it years ago. *I wanted the doors to abut something
on all edges to help deter insects. *That meant I had to cut down a strip of
tile about 6" wide - concrete under it too - then retile so I had about a
3/4" drop for the door to close against. *I could have avoided that by using
door sweeps; if I had it to do over I might do that. *Nah, better this way


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? *Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out...http://www.floridaloghouse.net

That looks great, you should hire out as a handyperson.

wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:19:22 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

We have a lanai off our master bedroom that opens onto a walled
garden. There are two arches, each about 66" x 82", for passage from
lanai to garden.


What the hell is a lanai?

Lanai is an Hawaiian word referring to - as said - a covered
porch. It is always open on the long side, can be open on either or both
ends as well. They can be at the back, side or front of a house. Most
condos too have a lanai although they are usually pretty narrow.

Some of them are really nice...the closed wall can be opened up via sliding
doors resulting in a large area that flows uninterrupted from the inside
living area to the outdoors. Works in Hawaii, almost nowhere else in the US
(not through the entire year, at least)

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dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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"dadiOH" wrote:

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was
for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in
rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for
a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
---------------------------------------------------------
Based on your descriptions, my guess is you are looking at
$1,500/panel,
$6,000 for the job, for custom fit and hanging of those door panels.

Might get a break and get the job done for $5,000, but I doubt it.

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote:

My total costs for both pairs was a bit over $550. Of that, $275 was
for
lumber (rough); the next biggest cost - about $90 -was for screening
materials (7/16 x 1" aluminum channel material (set into dados in
rails &
stiles), the rest was for hinges, locks, surface bolts, some ply for
a
bending jig, door closers, weather strip material, paint, etc.
---------------------------------------------------------
Based on your descriptions, my guess is you are looking at
$1,500/panel,
$6,000 for the job, for custom fit and hanging of those door panels.

Might get a break and get the job done for $5,000, but I doubt it.

Lew

Phew! I sure am glad I had a shop built when we built the house

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dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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