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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing
out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On 12/26/2012 2:32 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. You can prefinish before cutting the dado's but there is a chance that you will scratch the finish and if the edge need to be sanded at all you have to refinish. I would suggest finishing prior to assembly but not before completing all cuts. |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
Greg Guarino wrote:
Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. NP, why would there be? -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On 12/26/12 2:32 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. I pre-finish stock very often. With plywood, it helps get cleaner cuts. The key is to only finish as far as you don't mind getting scratched. If you finish all the way, it is very difficult to keep that final finish from getting scratched and dinged. But pre-finishing is a great way to conveniently get many coats of whatever on the stock. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On Dec 26, 4:02*pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
Greg Guarino wrote: Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. NP, why would there be? I try not to assume that I - by sheer force of intellect - can predict what will happen better than other (more experienced) people can *remember* what *did* happen. While it's nice to learn from your own mistakes, it's cheaper to learn from someone else's. |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On 12/26/12 3:16 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
On Dec 26, 4:02 pm, "dadiOH" wrote: Greg Guarino wrote: Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. NP, why would there be? I try not to assume that I - by sheer force of intellect - can predict what will happen better than other (more experienced) people can *remember* what *did* happen. While it's nice to learn from your own mistakes, it's cheaper to learn from someone else's. Even after decades of experience, anyone who is very good at whatever he does has learned to expect the unexpected. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
Greg Guarino wrote:
has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. It varies with the project and finish. if you're going to pre-finish, it makes sense to do it to the point that you try to only do each step once. -- www.ewoodshop.com (Mobile) |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
-MIKE- wrote:
On 12/26/12 3:16 PM, Greg Guarino wrote: On Dec 26, 4:02 pm, "dadiOH" wrote: Greg Guarino wrote: Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. NP, why would there be? I try not to assume that I - by sheer force of intellect - can predict what will happen better than other (more experienced) people can *remember* what *did* happen. While it's nice to learn from your own mistakes, it's cheaper to learn from someone else's. Even after decades of experience, anyone who is very good at whatever he does has learned to expect the unexpected. +1 (Remember, there are always two other people in the shop with you at all times .... Murphy, and the shop dummy) -- www.ewoodshop.com (Mobile) |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
Greg Guarino wrote:
Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. You may have to slightly "adjust" your jig if the finish results in any significant build up on your boards. Only one way to tell... -- -Mike- |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On Dec 26, 4:13*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 12/26/12 2:32 PM, Greg Guarino wrote: Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. I pre-finish stock very often. *With plywood, it helps get cleaner cuts.. Could you expand on that a bit? Does the wood splinter less? The key is to only finish as far as you don't mind getting scratched. If you finish all the way, it is very difficult to keep that final finish from getting scratched and dinged. Sounds like a good compromise. But pre-finishing is a great way to conveniently get many coats of whatever on the stock. This project, assuming I find the gumption to start it, will involve more finishing than I have ever done before. Any little edge in efficiency would be a blessing. |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On Dec 26, 4:59*pm, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Greg Guarino wrote: Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. You may have to slightly "adjust" your jig if the finish results in any significant build up on your boards. *Only one way to tell... I figure that if I choose to prefinish the shelves as well, I'll need to mask the parts that fit into the dadoes. Glue wouldn't stick otherwise, would it? |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On 12/26/12 9:22 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
On Dec 26, 4:13 pm, -MIKE- wrote: On 12/26/12 2:32 PM, Greg Guarino wrote: Still planning for some shelf units. I built a simple jig for routing out the dadoes. I cheated a bit, leaving out the adjustability for now, but I'm quite pleased with the results. The test dadoes are nice and snug and the process is very quick. The scrap ply that I used to test the jig happened to be finished; I guess it was a shelf for an older project. I was impressed by how cleanly the router cut the dadoes. It has me wondering if there would be any problem with prefinishing the uprights and routing the dadoes afterward. I had already planned to prefinish the pieces before assembly, but this would eliminate the need to mask (or otherwise avoid) the insides of the dadoes during the finishing process. I pre-finish stock very often. With plywood, it helps get cleaner cuts. Could you expand on that a bit? Does the wood splinter less? Yes. The finish holds the fibers together. And "less" is the operative word. Depending on the finish and wood, it helps more or less. Some finishes are excellent and yield a clean line. The key is to only finish as far as you don't mind getting scratched. If you finish all the way, it is very difficult to keep that final finish from getting scratched and dinged. Sounds like a good compromise. But pre-finishing is a great way to conveniently get many coats of whatever on the stock. This project, assuming I find the gumption to start it, will involve more finishing than I have ever done before. Any little edge in efficiency would be a blessing. Concerning your question in another post about masking the dado ends, masking would work. Depending on the finish, sometimes sanding that section is pretty quick and easy. When I've done that, I've made a sanding block with an edge guide that keeps the paper on the ends. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
On 12/26/2012 9:26 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
I figure that if I choose to prefinish the shelves as well, I'll need to mask the parts that fit into the dadoes. Glue wouldn't stick otherwise, would it? No ... -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://plus.google.com/114902129577517371552/posts KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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Finishing before cutting dadoes?
[about routing dadoes on finished wood]
If 'finish' is wax or oil or varnish or lacquer, probably it's fine. If 'finish' is shellac, heating at the cutting edge can cause it to melt, adhere to the router. And if it's paint, there are some pigments that can abrade a steel router bit (but probably OK on carbide). So, it's not the wood I'd look at, but the router bit, for gunk or wear. |
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