For the musicians out the

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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:15:43 -0800 (PST), wrote:

For the musicians out the

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The "Bench Dogs"??? Lord love a duck.

On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.

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Swingman wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.


At least it was a real "garage/shop band"--they had the clamps and
everything!

Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.


At least it was a real "garage/shop band"--they had the clamps and
everything!

They took the trouble to "do it". So you have to give them credit for
that. They probably have day jobs.

On 11/14/2012 9:23 AM, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.


At least it was a real "garage/shop band"--they had the clamps and
everything!

Yep ... whoopdedo!

They took the trouble to "do it". So you have to give them credit for
that.

From a woodworker (and the slow pan past the tits of the chick singer)
standpoint, maybe. From a musical standpoint ... the proof, or lack
thereof, is in the pudding.

(BTW, there are at least three woodworker/musicians who have posted here
recently who indeed _would_ put a smile on your face with their
musicality: -MIKE-Radcliffe (drums), Steve Turner (drums), and Mike
Marlowe (guitar))

They probably have day jobs.

.... and better hold onto them, tightly.

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Swingman wrote:


(BTW, there are at least three woodworker/musicians who have posted
here recently who indeed _would_ put a smile on your face with their
musicality: -MIKE-Radcliffe (drums), Steve Turner (drums), and Mike
Marlowe (guitar))


Well - a tip of the hat to you sir, for the compliment. What Karl did not
tell you is that there is yet another, who has earned and proven credentials
in that area. The guy has more time with big name pro's than a lot of us do
in back woods bars. That of course, would be Karl himself. Though his
critique may sound harsh to your ears, it is a proven and frankly...
accurate critique of the video clip.

BTW Karl - no "e" in Marlow.

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On 11/14/12 10:12 AM, Swingman wrote:
(BTW, there are at least three woodworker/musicians who have posted here
recently who indeed _would_ put a smile on your face with their
musicality: -MIKE-Radcliffe (drums), Steve Turner (drums), and Mike
Marlowe (guitar))

Ahhh, gee... shucks, Karl. :-)


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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:12:04 -0600, Swingman wrote:
From a woodworker (and the slow pan past the tits of the chick singer)
standpoint, maybe. From a musical standpoint ... the proof, or lack
thereof, is in the pudding.

I'd suggest that one of the motivations for these guys was to get her
to hang out with them.

On 11/14/2012 10:23 AM, Bill wrote:
Bill wrote:
Swingman wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.


At least it was a real "garage/shop band"--they had the clamps and
everything!

They took the trouble to "do it". So you have to give them credit for
that. They probably have day jobs.

I'm a musician. (keyboards, mostly)I'm substantially better at that than
I am at woodworking. While part-time, I've probably played something
like 2000 (paying) gigs in my long demi-career. And yes, I have a "day
job".

I applaud people like those shown in the video, whatever level of
accomplishment they might display. I wish that more people played
instruments, especially in groups. I think that may once have been more
common, when entertainment was less easily obtained.

Beyond the obvious enjoyment it affords the participants, it increases
their ability to appreciate music as played by others, especially live
music. We could use more of that sort of appreciation. Music gets more
and more devalued the more ubiquitous it becomes.

The same thing extends to attempting any sort of skilled activity. I
think that people who don't do much of that miss out on something
valuable. Needlepoint, bread-baking, the oboe, woodworking: take your pick.

As for the video, some of you may have had a similar reaction to the
"talent" level displayed in the pictures I've posted (of my rudimentary
forays into woodworking), to say nothing of my uninformed questions
here. But I'm pretty proud of my simple efforts, and I know they give me
a greater appreciation for craftsmanship in general.

I'm a pretty fair musician, but sometimes the world seems packed solid
with better players. As a younger man, that used to bother me. But I've
attained a certain perspective over time. When I put my hands on the
keys, music comes out. There's a little bit of me in every phrase.
That's no small accomplishment.

If I were in a bar and heard that band playing, you can be sure that
there'd be at least one person applauding: me. Barring some overt
arrogance on the part of the performers, I applaud. That's another thing
that used to be a given, but too many people these days seem to
"forget", even when they were dancing, singing and tapping their feet
during the song.

My two cents? Take up a skill that requires practice (or several), and
applaud the efforts of others whenever the opportunity arises.

Greg Guarino wrote:

If I were in a bar and heard that band playing, you can be sure that
there'd be at least one person applauding: me. Barring some overt
arrogance on the part of the performers, I applaud. That's another thing
that used to be a given, but too many people these days seem to
"forget", even when they were dancing, singing and tapping their feet
during the song.

My two cents? Take up a skill that requires practice (or several), and
applaud the efforts of others whenever the opportunity arises.

+1


I was at a coffee-house one when the table of "ladies" directly in front
of the performers asked if they would turn the volume down so that they
could talk (amongst themselves). How embarrassing. But if one looks
around, most listeners at such events are only casual listeners.
Personally, I have always felt some duty to be a respectful listener,
though it doesn't seem to be a universally held attitude. Maybe it comes
with musicianship?

Bill

On 11/14/2012 4:35 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:

My two cents? Take up a skill that requires practice (or several), and
applaud the efforts of others whenever the opportunity arises.

Sure, applaud the effort, but not necessarily the result ... for
applause does not necessarily improve the music.

AAMOF, being told the truth about the way you sound, individually or as
a band, will get you much further down the road to being a competent
musician/band than being applauded for a mediocre performance.

Most anyone can afford to record these days, which is mostly a good
thing. (One could argue that the problem comes in knowing when to NOT
put 'practice' recordings out for public consumption).

By all means, that is NOT to infer that recording yourself is not a
legitimate means of improving as a musician, because it is definitely
one of the best ways to learn and improve ... mainly because it allows
you to hear what you sound like to others, instead of what you think you
sound like when you're playing ... _the absolute single thing most
important element to becoming a "player"_.

(without exception, the audience will hear exactly what a truly talented
player is hearing in his own head while he's playing).

The more those two factors coincide, the better the player you become,
and recording yourself is one of the best ways to attain that goal, for
all but the sheer musical genius ... who doesn't need it in the first place.

Once again, the problem comes in knowing when to NOT put those practice
recording out for public consumption ... and realize that doing so may
well come with risk of deserved criticism, as well as any reward.

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Greg Guarino wrote:


I'm a musician. (keyboards, mostly)I'm substantially better at that
than I am at woodworking. While part-time, I've probably played something
like 2000 (paying) gigs in my long demi-career. And yes, I have a "day
job".

I applaud people like those shown in the video, whatever level of
accomplishment they might display. I wish that more people played
instruments, especially in groups. I think that may once have been
more common, when entertainment was less easily obtained.


I do as well. Despite Karl's compliment, I consider myself to be a
mediocre, or maybe slightly better than mediocre musician. I've played, and
I continue to play with some of the best talent in these parts, and let me
tell you - I have fun doing it, I get invited back, but man... some of these
guys make me wonder why I even bother. I've backed studio sessions for
local bands, (not a lot - here and there), I've played open mic nights at
local bars and rocked the joint. Then... I've played open mic nights at
local bars and couldn't wait to get back out to my car. I consider myself
fortunate to play with the guys I do, because they are so good and they
stretch me. Makes me better and I'm not ready to give up that quest yet.

I understand Karl's comment though. Musicians probably judge musicians
harsher than the casual observer does (unless they really suck). I've
played with some really crummy players and sometimes couldn't wait for it to
end, but like most musicians, ya plug through it because they are doing
their best and they are enjoying it. Better guys than me welcome me to play
when ever we happen to be together, so I can't do any less for people who
have lesser capabilities than I.

I too was glad to see them having fun. They certainly didn't act like they
were the next American Idol - just having fun. That's what it's about. I
didn't like the way they played the song at all, but that doesn't mean much.
They would have benefited greatly with a sound guy that knew how to mix. I
think the audio quality hurt them as much as anything else.

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On 11/14/12 8:08 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.


Yeah, my Mom told me, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say
anything.
That girl is pretty cute.


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On 11/14/2012 10:52 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/14/12 8:08 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359

Sorry, but more $$ in instruments than talent.


Yeah, my Mom told me, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.
That girl is pretty cute.

Definitely easy on the eyes. :-)

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On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

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Nice shop, music was distracting. ;~(

Leon wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359



Nice shop, music was distracting. ;~(

(I apologize for an accidentally sent message, with no content added)

Based on what I heard, I went looking on YouTube for a Stevie Ray Vaugn
version (but didn't locate one). Who did the definitive version of the
song? Screaming Jay Hawkins?

Bill wrote:
Leon wrote:
On 11/13/2012 10:15 PM, wrote:
For the musicians out the

http://vimeo.com/27318359



Nice shop, music was distracting. ;~(

(I apologize for an accidentally sent message, with no content added)

Based on what I heard, I went looking on YouTube for a Stevie Ray
Vaugn version (but didn't locate one). Who did the definitive
version of the song? Screaming Jay Hawkins?

CCR!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwCALR8ZAm8


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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:15:43 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

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Not too painful. Ashley's cute, so that'll get them gigs.

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is to allow part of us to die - whether it is our spirit, our
creativity, or our glorious uniqueness.
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On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:15:43 PM UTC-8, wrote:
For the musicians out the http://vimeo.com/27318359

David gets much higher "marks" for his other work with wooden sticks. At least I feel I can kick his ass in the sound stuidio.