Shortly after Christmas ("The Holidays" for the PC crowd) my wife went
out and bought a HDTV Television (that cagey ole broad knows when the
deals are happening).

It's not very big, as these things go, being only a 27" version but
anything much bigger wouldn't have fit so good in our tiny little
living room.

So we get it and I hook it up and fire it up - then she tells me it
won't work right without the cable company coming out and gouging us
for more money - so I waited.

Cable guy comes and hooks up the box interface to their office and my
wallet - and I wait.

What I'm waiting for is the DIY Network, sose I can cast an eyeball on
this David Marks fella that I've been reading so much about here on
the Wreck.

Finally, the kids are done playing with the thing and watching all of
the four thousand kids channels that come with the service - I'm done
waiting.

Yesterday morning I punched up the DIY channel and watched a couple of
Mr. Marks' programs, that ran back to back.

I have to confess, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

He had a brad nailer sitting on his workbench, just like Norm does.

Although I don't know anything about the man, he seemed like he came
from a pure shop background or an art school background, because the
work that he was doing had a more elevated design ethic than Norm's
usual stuff.

Norm comes from being a carpenter, which is how I came to making
furniture, and he tends to copy existing pieces, rather than starting
from his own on paper.

Marks looks like he favors studio furniture trends over traditional
styles, but hell, I've only seen two shows.

His techniques didn't seem wildly divergent from those of any decent
mechanic - I was expecting something on the order of Toshio Odate.

His shop didn't look much different from mine, saving the aircraft
carrier that was taking up way too much shop space - I'd trade that
for Norm's Timesaver in a heartbeat.

I'll keep watching.




tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

Yeah, imagine that. His shop doesn't look that much different from yours or
mine... What, you don't have the 48" wide sanding machine next to your
dedicated pocket hole machine?

Both men are talented, both shows have value. I like Marks as he is a bit
more realistic with the tools available to him, er me. Norm has a huge
financial backing, hence all the cool tools, admittedly, ones I most likely
will never be able to afford. But that doesn't make him a bad guy. Maybe a
better business man, but not a bad guy.

Shortly after Christmas ("The Holidays" for the PC crowd) my wife went
out and bought a HDTV Television (that cagey ole broad knows when the
deals are happening).

It's not very big, as these things go, being only a 27" version but
anything much bigger wouldn't have fit so good in our tiny little
living room.

So we get it and I hook it up and fire it up - then she tells me it
won't work right without the cable company coming out and gouging us
for more money - so I waited.

Cable guy comes and hooks up the box interface to their office and my
wallet - and I wait.

What I'm waiting for is the DIY Network, sose I can cast an eyeball on
this David Marks fella that I've been reading so much about here on
the Wreck.

Finally, the kids are done playing with the thing and watching all of
the four thousand kids channels that come with the service - I'm done
waiting.

Yesterday morning I punched up the DIY channel and watched a couple of
Mr. Marks' programs, that ran back to back.

I have to confess, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

He had a brad nailer sitting on his workbench, just like Norm does.

Although I don't know anything about the man, he seemed like he came
from a pure shop background or an art school background, because the
work that he was doing had a more elevated design ethic than Norm's
usual stuff.

Norm comes from being a carpenter, which is how I came to making
furniture, and he tends to copy existing pieces, rather than starting
from his own on paper.

Marks looks like he favors studio furniture trends over traditional
styles, but hell, I've only seen two shows.

His techniques didn't seem wildly divergent from those of any decent
mechanic - I was expecting something on the order of Toshio Odate.

His shop didn't look much different from mine, saving the aircraft
carrier that was taking up way too much shop space - I'd trade that
for Norm's Timesaver in a heartbeat.

I'll keep watching.




tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

Yesterday morning I punched up the DIY channel and watched a couple of
Mr. Marks' programs, that ran back to back.

I have to confess, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

He had a brad nailer sitting on his workbench, just like Norm does.

Although I don't know anything about the man, he seemed like he came
from a pure shop background or an art school background, because the
work that he was doing had a more elevated design ethic than Norm's
usual stuff.

DJM definitley has a more "artistic" approach than Norm ... after all, this
is New Jersey moved to CaliforniO.

I'd also suspect that much of what he does on TV is dumbed down for 'doofus
americanus', considering the source is the DIY channel.

However, his TV projects do seem to have at least a twist, or detail, often
subtle, that takes him out of the realm of the ordinary mechanic, IMO.

Norm comes from being a carpenter, which is how I came to making
furniture, and he tends to copy existing pieces, rather than starting
from his own on paper.

Marks looks like he favors studio furniture trends over traditional
styles, but hell, I've only seen two shows.

His techniques didn't seem wildly divergent from those of any decent
mechanic - I was expecting something on the order of Toshio Odate.

No way. but I would say, relatively speaking, he's the best on TV thus far.

His shop didn't look much different from mine, saving the aircraft
carrier that was taking up way too much shop space - I'd trade that
for Norm's Timesaver in a heartbeat.

He's got the shop space for it ... there is much more shop than you see. An
episode deals with his shop, DC and wood shed. And his wood stash is
definitely the mark of a serious woodworker.

Very few of us get an opportunity to be exposed to an elevated level of
woodworking except through TV. Even if DJM's is not of the highest, I still
enjoy his program for that aspect.

Although I definitely don't consider him the holy grail., he does offer an
opportunity to see a bit more artistic approach doing things than what has
gone before.

Besides, how much of the family jewels/secrets would you want to give away
between now and the bloom fading on the rose, as it always does?

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'll keep watching.

Then let me put DJM into a perspective you'll understand, TW: ... it's like
Leland Sklar playing plain ole 'eat ****' I V bass behind James Taylor,
then, every once in a while, sneaking in one of those tasty little trademark
licks that says unequivocally, "let there be no doubt that I can do it, but
I damn sure don't get paid to do it all the time."

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:02:36 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'll keep watching.

Then let me put DJM into a perspective you'll understand, TW: ... it's like
Leland Sklar playing plain ole 'eat ****' I V bass behind James Taylor,
then, every once in a while, sneaking in one of those tasty little trademark
licks that says unequivocally, "let there be no doubt that I can do it, but
I damn sure don't get paid to do it all the time."


I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep
watching.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.


tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:28:49 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

Very few of us get an opportunity to be exposed to an elevated level of
woodworking except through TV. Even if DJM's is not of the highest, I still
enjoy his program for that aspect.

Ya know, Swing, we need a guy like Alan Lomax was, to go out and see
what the small one-off shops are doing and report back to us.

It would be a worthwhile endeavor.

watson - who feels too old to volunteer - unless there's good money in
it.


tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep
watching.

Well, a "get down" hell yes! ... or James Jamerson for that matter.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.

Not too shabby, either.

... but Leland is sneaky in that you never think he has any chops til they
hit you between the ears.

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:54:19 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep
watching.

Well, a "get down" hell yes! ... or James Jamerson for that matter.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.

Not too shabby, either.

... but Leland is sneaky in that you never think he has any chops til they
hit you between the ears.

**** - normal folks don't know who Slam Stewart is, nor Israel Crosby,
nor maybe even Ron Carter (although I believe this shows a lack of a
decent education) nor Rodney Whitaker (God Love Louis) nor even Dear
Old Chalres Mingus (this degeneration of whelps) dammit Swing - they
don't even hearken to Jorma Kaukonen - the instrument has been taken
over by Robots.

watson - who prefers the standup but will listen to the fretless
wonderingly - his D28 bottoms out too quick to not have love for a
bass man.

watson - who thinks that Boardmen love bassplayers because they pin
the left end of the dial (ancient reference) real quick like.




tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

"Tom Watson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:54:19 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep
watching.

Well, a "get down" hell yes! ... or James Jamerson for that matter.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.

Not too shabby, either.

... but Leland is sneaky in that you never think he has any chops til
they
hit you between the ears.

**** - normal folks don't know who Slam Stewart is, nor Israel Crosby,
nor maybe even Ron Carter (although I believe this shows a lack of a
decent education) nor Rodney Whitaker (God Love Louis) nor even Dear
Old Chalres Mingus (this degeneration of whelps) dammit Swing - they
don't even hearken to Jorma Kaukonen - the instrument has been taken
over by Robots.

or worse ... keyboard players.

Well "Shut My Mouth", you know your stuff, bubba! Slam Stewart - among
others, he played with Dick Hyman, who scored the soundtrack for "Sweet and
Lowdown", one of the few movie soundtracks I've ever bought.

watson - who prefers the standup but will listen to the fretless
wonderingly - his D28 bottoms out too quick to not have love for a
bass man.

watson - who thinks that Boardmen love bassplayers because they pin
the left end of the dial (ancient reference) real quick like.

LOL ... Me, I am a sucker for a 'groove' bass player. My ALL TIME FAVORITE
white boy groove player:

Donald "Duck" Dunn

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:35:09 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:



LOL ... Me, I am a sucker for a 'groove' bass player. My ALL TIME FAVORITE
white boy groove player:

Donald "Duck" Dunn


watson - who is kinda interested in seeing how far the responses to
this will kick out to the right before he runs out of screen...

I first saw Duck live playing with Leon Russell in about the mid
seventies, on a non-venue near to Philly (don't know why they were
there - there was no gig on) but heard him from the time of Booker T,
Otis, Wilson, Issac - you remember Ronnie Hawkins? - the Hawk that
started out the Band?

I don't think there was anybody the sumbitch didn't play with during
the seventies and he played with Petty, Clapton and even Buffet during
the eighties.

shazzam - somebody else like bass folks - betcha don't like drummers,
though.


watson - who likes drummers, too - but not too many keyboard guys and
only two vibraphone dudes.

watson - who only likes one harp player and he's really a lyricist.


it ain't mayall.



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

"Tom Watson" wrote in message
....
"Swingman" wrote:

LOL ... Me, I am a sucker for a 'groove' bass player. My ALL TIME
FAVORITE
white boy groove player:

Donald "Duck" Dunn


watson - who is kinda interested in seeing how far the responses to
this will kick out to the right before he runs out of screen...

I first saw Duck live playing with Leon Russell in about the mid
seventies, on a non-venue near to Philly (don't know why they were
there - there was no gig on) but heard him from the time of Booker T,
Otis, Wilson, Issac - you remember Ronnie Hawkins? - the Hawk that
started out the Band?

A great band, even after the Canadian's basically ran Hawkin's out, it still
had the southern 'thang'.

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:35:09 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:




LOL ... Me, I am a sucker for a 'groove' bass player.

I'm trying to remember who did the bass line on "All She Wants To Do
Is Dance".



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:23:22 -0800, "Markndawoods"
wrote:

Both men are talented, both shows have value. I like Marks as he is a bit
more realistic with the tools available to him, er me. Norm has a huge
financial backing, hence all the cool tools, admittedly, ones I most likely
will never be able to afford. But that doesn't make him a bad guy. Maybe a
better business man, but not a bad guy.

That's because Marks owns all of his own tools, many of which he
purchased used. He did a show on all of his tools and he explained
where they all came from and admitted that his aircraft carrier
jointer is a little ridiculous but he got a good deal.

While I don't have that jointer nor the multi-router, nor some of the
other things that he does, I haven't been at it as long as he has, nor
am I a woodworking professional in galleries all over the world.
However, his shop is a lot closer to mine and I've thought about using
some of the nifty ideas I've seen in his shop if I ever get time.

snip


watson - who likes drummers, too - but not too many keyboard guys and
only two vibraphone dudes.

snip


Speaking of drummers, did Donald "Duck" Dunn ever play with Donald
"Duck" Bailey?

In article ,
"Swingman" wrote:

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep
watching.

Well, a "get down" hell yes! ... or James Jamerson for that matter.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.

Not too shabby, either.

... but Leland is sneaky in that you never think he has any chops til they
hit you between the ears.

All these big bass playin' names... and no mention of amongst my 2 faves
Dave Jaques and Pino Palladino.

"Tom Watson" wrote:


I'm trying to remember who did the bass line on "All She Wants To Do
Is Dance".


There were a lot of bass players listed on the album credts, but I don't
recall exacly who played what. Larry Klein, Pino Palladino and Tim Drummond
for sure, and a girl bass player, IIRC ... but if I had to guess I'd say
Pino?

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"Tom Watson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:54:19 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

"Tom Watson" wrote in message

I'da said Larry Graham but I got the message - thanks - I'll keep
watching.

Well, a "get down" hell yes! ... or James Jamerson for that matter.

watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.

Not too shabby, either.

... but Leland is sneaky in that you never think he has any chops til
they
hit you between the ears.

**** - normal folks don't know who Slam Stewart is, nor Israel Crosby,
nor maybe even Ron Carter (although I believe this shows a lack of a
decent education) nor Rodney Whitaker (God Love Louis) nor even Dear
Old Chalres Mingus (this degeneration of whelps) dammit Swing - they
don't even hearken to Jorma Kaukonen - the instrument has been taken
over by Robots.

Uh, instead of Jorma, did you perchance mean Jack Casady? He was the
Airplane's bassist.

Dave, who is also a bass player, and owns a Chubby Jackson model Kay...
oheare AT magma DOT ca

In article , Swingman
wrote:

(Speaking of DJM...)
He's got the shop space for it ... there is much more shop than you see. An
episode deals with his shop, DC and wood shed. And his wood stash is
definitely the mark of a serious woodworker.

Ah, yes. The wood. To me, that is the biggest difference between Marks
and Nahm. Like me, Marks loves and respects the wood. He listens to it
and works with it to reveal the sometimes hidden beauty, while Nahm
just machines it.

DJM is glue and lots of clamps; Nahm is "just a couple of brads until
the glue dries".

DJM is tung oil; Nahm is polyurethane, or -*shudder*- paint.

I record and watch Nahm on my DVR, but I delete every episode as soon
as it's over. But my 70 hour DVR is about half full of Wood Works, and
I've got to find a way to dump some out to DVD, instead of VHS tapes.

In the end, it boils down to this for me: DJM is an artist, as I aspire
to be. Nahm builds furniture as if he's framing a house: sturdy, fine
workmanship, but no soul at all.

Kevin

"Dave O'Heare" wrote in message

Uh, instead of Jorma, did you perchance mean Jack Casady? He was the
Airplane's bassist.

I am sure that is who he meant. To hell with the Airplane ... give me Hot
Tuna!

Dave, who is also a bass player, and owns a Chubby Jackson model Kay...

61 Fender Jazz ...

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That's because Marks owns all of his own tools, many of which he
purchased used. He did a show on all of his tools and he explained
where they all came from and admitted that his aircraft carrier
jointer is a little ridiculous but he got a good deal.

Marks also has two one-way lathes...

The difference between the shows is that if you watch Norm he is really
good on working out the exact right sequence to build something with
minimal hassle.

Marks does not have as many specialist power tools as Norm but be does
have a heck of a lot of specialist hand tools and he uses some very
expensive woods. If Marks is using a hand plane it will either be one
he hand made himself or something that cost twice as much as the bench
top mortiser that Norm uses.

Marks is much more interested in artsy finishing, Norm does maybe a
couple of projects a season with something other than eight coats of
poly.

Interestingly, Norm has really jacked up the difficulty level this
season and last. The mahoghany dinning table he built last season must
have cost at least $2K for the wood alone. I would have thought that
for a table that size veneer would be a better way to go.

Neither of them uses a spliter or guard on their table saw. Marks was
seen using his rip fence as a cutoff guide while cross cutting with a
mitre guage this morning - Norm always uses a short cuttoff fence.

I don't think that the 'guards removed for visibility' is legit. It
would be pretty easy to mount a modern lightweight CCD camera on a
blade guard. If Norm used a splitter &ct then the number of shop
injuries in the US would probably fall markedly. Friend of mine is now
limited to only using hand tools after he cut half his hand off. He was
lucky and he got it sewn back on and even got feeling back but his hand
now looks like a piece of wood that has been ripped in two and butt
joined together, you can see the jump in the creases of his palm due to
the saw kerf

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

DJM definitley has a more "artistic" approach than Norm ... after all,
this
is New Jersey moved to CaliforniO.


Especially since Marks work is in several museums.

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:03 -0500, "Dave O'Heare"
oheareATmagmaDOTca wrote:


Uh, instead of Jorma, did you perchance mean Jack Casady? He was the
Airplane's bassist.


Yeah, sorry - type too fast, think too slow.

Besides, when I think of Jack, I confuse it with Neal.



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

If any kind soul would be willing to put an episode or two of David Marks on
DVR and send to me I would be very appreciative. I have read much about
David Marks and Norm but I am unable to enjoy any of the DIY network where I
live in Japan.

Alex Reid
www.mokkou.jp

"Tom Watson" wrote in message
...
Shortly after Christmas ("The Holidays" for the PC crowd) my wife went
out and bought a HDTV Television (that cagey ole broad knows when the
deals are happening).

It's not very big, as these things go, being only a 27" version but
anything much bigger wouldn't have fit so good in our tiny little
living room.

So we get it and I hook it up and fire it up - then she tells me it
won't work right without the cable company coming out and gouging us
for more money - so I waited.

Cable guy comes and hooks up the box interface to their office and my
wallet - and I wait.

What I'm waiting for is the DIY Network, sose I can cast an eyeball on
this David Marks fella that I've been reading so much about here on
the Wreck.

Finally, the kids are done playing with the thing and watching all of
the four thousand kids channels that come with the service - I'm done
waiting.

Yesterday morning I punched up the DIY channel and watched a couple of
Mr. Marks' programs, that ran back to back.

I have to confess, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

He had a brad nailer sitting on his workbench, just like Norm does.

Although I don't know anything about the man, he seemed like he came
from a pure shop background or an art school background, because the
work that he was doing had a more elevated design ethic than Norm's
usual stuff.

Norm comes from being a carpenter, which is how I came to making
furniture, and he tends to copy existing pieces, rather than starting
from his own on paper.

Marks looks like he favors studio furniture trends over traditional
styles, but hell, I've only seen two shows.

His techniques didn't seem wildly divergent from those of any decent
mechanic - I was expecting something on the order of Toshio Odate.

His shop didn't look much different from mine, saving the aircraft
carrier that was taking up way too much shop space - I'd trade that
for Norm's Timesaver in a heartbeat.

I'll keep watching.




tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

What I'm waiting for is the DIY Network, sose I can cast an eyeball on
this David Marks fella that I've been reading so much about here on
the Wreck.

Finally, the kids are done playing with the thing and watching all of
the four thousand kids channels that come with the service - I'm done
waiting.

Yesterday morning I punched up the DIY channel and watched a couple of
Mr. Marks' programs, that ran back to back.

I have to confess, I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

For those who just can't get enough of DJM, he is profiled in the current
issue of Woodcraft Magzine.

Lee


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**** - normal folks don't know who Slam Stewart is, nor Israel Crosby,
nor maybe even Ron Carter (although I believe this shows a lack of a
decent education) nor Rodney Whitaker (God Love Louis) nor even Dear
Old Chalres Mingus (this degeneration of whelps) dammit Swing

One of the best bass men I have ever heard is Charnett Moffett who play with
Kevin Eubanks whose live performace repertoire is decidedly different from
what he plays on the Tonight Show.

Lee


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Tom Watson wrote:
watson - who used to think that Bootsy Collins was the Man.


I'm pretty sure George Clinton is "The Man".

UA100, who wonders, how many people are thinking. "the white
guy who played sax on the Arsenio Hall Show that one
time?"...

Dave O'Heare wrote:
Uh, instead of Jorma, did you perchance mean Jack Casady? He was the
Airplane's bassist.


Some Hot Tuna would make for some good shoppe muzak.

sigh...

UA100, who personally always wanted to play drums like J.
Johnny Johnson and Butch Trucks when he grew up...

TJW:
Besides, when I think of Jack, I confuse it with Neal.


God blessem for not accidently typing David.

UA100, who is enjoying this romp down memory lane...

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:40:31 GMT, Unisaw A100
wrote:

I'm pretty sure George Clinton is "The Man".

UA100, who wonders, how many people are thinking. "the white
guy who played sax on the Arsenio Hall Show that one
time?"...


Nah, that dude got a straight gig for awhile - but I hear he's
unemployed again now.

Some said he knew more about blowin' than 'bout near anyone.



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Lee Gordon wrote:

One of the best bass men I have ever heard is Charnett Moffett who play with
Kevin Eubanks whose live performace repertoire is decidedly different from
what he plays on the Tonight Show.

I first heard Charnett (named for his dad Charles and a certain
fellow named Ornette, IIRC) playing on the album _Ask The Ages_, with
Sonny Sharrock (*whew*) and Pharoah Sanders (double *whew*). He
*almost* stole the show. Had a groove going that sounded more like
Jimmy Garrison than anyone I'd heard in a long while.

Of course, if you mention Ornette, you have to mention Charlie Haden.

And if you're into the fusion thing, you only need to say one word:
Jaco.


Chuck Vance (whose favorites are probably Mingus (for his
compositions more than his playing), Ron Carter (for his playing more
than his compositions), and Jaco (for basically re-inventing the bass))

Question about one of his favorite finishes... tung, linseed, urethane
mixture... what ratios of these do you experienced people use (of
those of you who are partial to this mixture?) As a newbie, I am
looking for something that has a lot of beauty like tung oil that haas
a protective coating like the urethane. As some previous posters noted
about Norm... I'm not totally digging the thousand coats of urethane.
Not only that, as a newbie, I have found that the oil finishes are more
forgiving of air born dust than a urethane coating...

Maybe one should just read the obituaries and look to see when a guy
dies who has WW listed as a life's passion, then swoop in on the
distraught widow and buy the whole shop for $500!!!

In article .com,
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

Neither of them uses a spliter or guard on their table saw. Marks was
seen using his rip fence as a cutoff guide while cross cutting with a
mitre guage this morning - Norm always uses a short cuttoff fence.

I caught that, but it was while using his sled. No real chance for the
wood to twist and bind between saw and fence.

But yeah, he should have used a short fence for that.

Kevin

Mark and Kim Smith wrote:

snip


watson - who likes drummers, too - but not too many keyboard guys and
only two vibraphone dudes.

snip


Speaking of drummers, did Donald "Duck" Dunn ever play with Donald
"Duck" Bailey?


Betcha thought I was joking?
http://www.gallery41.com/JazzArtists/DonaldBailey.htm
http://www.thejazzhouse.org/performances.htm

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:54:49 -0500, pharmdave wrote:

Question about one of his favorite finishes... tung, linseed, urethane
mixture... what ratios of these do you experienced people use (of those
of you who are partial to this mixture?) As a newbie, I am looking for
something that has a lot of beauty like tung oil that haas a protective
coating like the urethane. As some previous posters noted about Norm...
I'm not totally digging the thousand coats of urethane. Not only that,
as a newbie, I have found that the oil finishes are more forgiving of
air born dust than a urethane coating...

Have you tried Waterlox? Some people on this group talk a lot about it so
I used it on my last project (a pair of walnut endtables) and really liked
it. I wiped on 4 coats, lightly rubbed with steel wool, and finished with
paste wax. Granted, not as much protection as urethane, but I think more
than straight up tung oil, and easier to apply too. Each coat was dry (to
touch, not cured) in less than 12 hours.

Chad

On 16 Jan 2005 20:15:40 -0800, "Phillip Hallam-Baker"
wrote:

I don't think that the 'guards removed for visibility' is legit. It
would be pretty easy to mount a modern lightweight CCD camera on a
blade guard. If Norm used a splitter &ct then the number of shop
injuries in the US would probably fall markedly. Friend of mine is now
limited to only using hand tools after he cut half his hand off. He was
lucky and he got it sewn back on and even got feeling back but his hand
now looks like a piece of wood that has been ripped in two and butt
joined together, you can see the jump in the creases of his palm due to
the saw kerf

I've never thought it was legit and is especially laughable after
Norm's little "safety speech" which there's always a "Granted, I don't
use them" addition to the end of.

I'd love to see them use all the proper guards and splitters, if for
no other reason than to serve as a good role model. Do we really need
to see the wood get cut in half or can we just assume that it does
when it comes out the other end in two pieces?

"pharmdave" wrote in message
ups.com...


Question about one of his favorite finishes... tung, linseed, urethane
mixture... what ratios of these do you experienced people use (of

This is often his way of referring to General Finishes Arm-R-Seal.
Do search on this and you'll see someone posted an email from him saying
that that was his brand.
Sometimes the camera will show the back of the can and you can see it's a GF
product

"Brian Henderson" wrote in message

Do we really need
to see the wood get cut in half or can we just assume that it does
when it comes out the other end in two pieces?

Naah, they're just showing you that they get burn marks just like you do.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:00:57 -0500, the inscrutable Chad Bender
spake:

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:54:49 -0500, pharmdave wrote:

Question about one of his favorite finishes... tung, linseed, urethane
mixture... what ratios of these do you experienced people use (of those
of you who are partial to this mixture?) As a newbie, I am looking for
something that has a lot of beauty like tung oil that haas a protective
coating like the urethane. As some previous posters noted about Norm...
I'm not totally digging the thousand coats of urethane. Not only that,
as a newbie, I have found that the oil finishes are more forgiving of
air born dust than a urethane coating...

Have you tried Waterlox? Some people on this group talk a lot about it so
I used it on my last project (a pair of walnut endtables) and really liked

It's great stuff.


it. I wiped on 4 coats, lightly rubbed with steel wool, and finished with
paste wax. Granted, not as much protection as urethane, but I think more
than straight up tung oil, and easier to apply too. Each coat was dry (to
touch, not cured) in less than 12 hours.

90% of projects don't NEED the "protection" of poly.


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