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Default Tree growth rings disprove that the earth is warmer now than duringRoman times and or even 1000 years ago.

A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported
last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations
etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a
New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of
the world."
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On 7/17/2012 2:57 PM, Leon wrote:
A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported
last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations
etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a
New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of
the world."



well duh.

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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported
last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations
etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a
New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of
the world."


AlGore overly simple? Who wudda thunk?
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Leon wrote:
A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made
climate change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man
made global warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported
last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature
oscillations etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The
Star-Ledger, a New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in
"one piece of an extremely complex puzzle that has been
oversimplified by the Al Gores of the world."


just proves that you don't f**k with mother nature


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On 7/17/2012 3:57 PM, Leon wrote:
A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times
than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last week,
"and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a mere
blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations etched
into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey
newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an extremely
complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of the world."


A narrow study using data derived from tree rings in sub-arctic Lapland?
Yeah, I'm sure that applies very broadly to the rest of the world.


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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported
last week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."


In the past decade, hikers in Switzerland have been discovering
previously unknown paths (and bodies/mummies?) which were hiked during
the Medieval Warm Period, proving that same hypothesis.


That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations
etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a
New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of
the world."


Oversimplified hell. He outright lied about overstating every bit of
data and then -acknowledged- it, saying that people wouldn't act
unless he did so. Farkin' liberal maroons!

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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate change
deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it
is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world
has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a mere blip
when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree
rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey newspaper, mused
that the findings lock in "one piece of an extremely complex puzzle that has been
oversimplified by the Al Gores of the world."


Got a link?
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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate change
deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it
is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world
has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a mere blip
when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree
rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey newspaper, mused
that the findings lock in "one piece of an extremely complex puzzle that has been
oversimplified by the Al Gores of the world."


Got a link?
Art


Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.
http://www.livescience.com/21624-tre...l-warming.html
Art


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On 7/17/2012 7:07 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Artemus" wrote in message ...

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate change
deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global warming.
The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it
is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world
has been cooling for 2,000 years."
That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a mere blip
when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree
rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey newspaper, mused
that the findings lock in "one piece of an extremely complex puzzle that has been
oversimplified by the Al Gores of the world."


Got a link?
Art


Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.
http://www.livescience.com/21624-tre...l-warming.html
Art




Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation that
tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call it a
political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point in
time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens of times
in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming cycle is
futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger problems to
solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be headed
for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?
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On 7/17/2012 7:07 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Artemus" wrote in message
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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made
climate change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man
made global warming. The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER
in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper
the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been
cooling for 2,000 years." That and other articles suggest the
current global warming trend is a mere blip when viewed in the
context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree rings
over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey
newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al
Gores of the world."

Got a link?
Art


Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.
http://www.livescience.com/21624-tre...l-warming.html
Art


Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation
that tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call
it a political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point in
time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens of
times in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming cycle
is futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger problems
to solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be
headed for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?


Just for fun. Here is a link to a retroactive look at a 1981 paper that
looked at scenarios to predict global climate, taking into account many
factors. It seems that 30 years later the observations have confirmed
the predictions, including the role of CO2.
http://tinyurl.com/832z88r or
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...uating-a-1981-
temperature-projection/

My physicist daughter found the link, and yes, KNMI is the acronym of the
Dutch weather service (Koninklijk Nederlands Meteorologisch Instituut),
and I am a born Dutchman.

In geological times Earth's temperature has often been warmer than today,
and part of the current rise in globally averaged temperatures may be due
to other factors. It is just remarkable that 1981 calculations were able
to predict observations made over the next 30 years, and were based on
the rise in CO2. Really curious correlation ... Yes I know.
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On 7/18/2012 7:41 AM, Han wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
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On 7/17/2012 7:07 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Artemus" wrote in message
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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made
climate change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man
made global warming. The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER
in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper
the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been
cooling for 2,000 years." That and other articles suggest the
current global warming trend is a mere blip when viewed in the
context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree rings
over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey
newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al
Gores of the world."

Got a link?
Art


Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.
http://www.livescience.com/21624-tre...l-warming.html
Art


Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation
that tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call
it a political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point in
time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens of
times in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming cycle
is futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger problems
to solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be
headed for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?


Just for fun. Here is a link to a retroactive look at a 1981 paper that
looked at scenarios to predict global climate, taking into account many
factors. It seems that 30 years later the observations have confirmed
the predictions, including the role of CO2.
http://tinyurl.com/832z88r or
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...uating-a-1981-
temperature-projection/

My physicist daughter found the link, and yes, KNMI is the acronym of the
Dutch weather service (Koninklijk Nederlands Meteorologisch Instituut),
and I am a born Dutchman.

In geological times Earth's temperature has often been warmer than today,
and part of the current rise in globally averaged temperatures may be due
to other factors. It is just remarkable that 1981 calculations were able
to predict observations made over the next 30 years, and were based on
the rise in CO2. Really curious correlation ... Yes I know.


Nothing curious about it, Han ... when it comes to correlation and
causation figures can lie, and liars can figure. Massage/adjust the data
just right (as in the traditional and adjusted temperature data sets
being used for modeling) and the moon is made of Limburger ... or at
least smells like it.

And yes, we are definitely in a warming period ... however, the reason
has simply not been determined with sufficient scientific certainty to
embark upon the 'rob the rich, give to the poor' measures those intent
on destroying the sovereignty of select nations in favor of a world
government would have you believe.

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On 7/18/2012 7:41 AM, Han wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
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On 7/17/2012 7:07 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Artemus" wrote in message
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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made
climate change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man
made global warming. The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER
in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper
the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been
cooling for 2,000 years." That and other articles suggest the
current global warming trend is a mere blip when viewed in the
context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree rings
over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey
newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al
Gores of the world."

Got a link?
Art


Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.
http://www.livescience.com/21624-tre...l-warming.html
Art


Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation
that tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call
it a political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point in
time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens of
times in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming cycle
is futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger problems
to solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be
headed for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?


Just for fun. Here is a link to a retroactive look at a 1981 paper that
looked at scenarios to predict global climate, taking into account many
factors. It seems that 30 years later the observations have confirmed
the predictions, including the role of CO2.
http://tinyurl.com/832z88r or
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...uating-a-1981-
temperature-projection/

My physicist daughter found the link, and yes, KNMI is the acronym of the
Dutch weather service (Koninklijk Nederlands Meteorologisch Instituut),
and I am a born Dutchman.

In geological times Earth's temperature has often been warmer than today,
and part of the current rise in globally averaged temperatures may be due
to other factors. It is just remarkable that 1981 calculations were able
to predict observations made over the next 30 years, and were based on
the rise in CO2. Really curious correlation ... Yes I know.



Equally remarkable about 1981 is that it is an odd number year.

You can make any figures tell you what you want them to say. We do not
know the reason for climate change or how long it will last of if the
earth is naturally warming up to offset what did 40 years ago to cool
thing off unknowingly. We are going thorough a normal cycle.

That said the current findings and bits of data collected may explain
why the cave man is no longer around. His collection of data indicated
that there should be no more cooking with fire as it added too much to
the global pollution which was on every ones minds back then. They
starved to death trying to save the world. ;~)




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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made
climate change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man
made global warming. The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER
in Roman and Medieval times than it is now," the British newspaper
the Daily Mail reported last week, "and [the] world has been
cooling for 2,000 years." That and other articles suggest the
current global warming trend is a mere blip when viewed in the
context of natural temperature oscillations etched into tree rings
over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a New Jersey
newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al
Gores of the world."


It was stated that the current drought is worse than the one that happened
back in 1956. What I think they need to do is analyze what happened back in
1956. No matter what the incident, drought, tornados, rainstorms,
hurricanes, they
are always compared to another historical time. I find this very curious,
as many people who today (starting with Dubya) would be blamed for these
conditions were not around in 1956, or maybe were just children. Could it
be possible that they were such evil people that even at that young age,
they were projecting their evil into the stratosphere?

It could happen.

So, every time someone says that the current conditions exceed the
historical record, think back at what was happening in the past historically
at that point. The next thing will be that someone blames George Bush for
the 1956 drought, and then the one in the Dust Bowl of the 30's. And back.
And back. And when we reach a point where there were no records kept, we
can go to ancient tree rings. Logic would say that George Bush was probably
the spawn of Little Forked Tongue, an evil ancient one.

I bet a dollar to a donut hole that George Bush was responsible for the
drought in the early 1300's that wiped out the Anasazi/Pueblo cultures. Or
at least the libs will say so. And his genes had to be around during the
Roman times, too.

Think about it. Some very strange similarities and
correlations..............

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Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be headed for
another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Perhaps the most interesting ice age speculation would be the greenie
response. What would the politically correct explanation be? And how could
we battle "global cooling"?



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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote

Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be headed for
another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Perhaps the most interesting ice age speculation would be the greenie
response. What would the politically correct explanation be? And how could
we battle "global cooling"?


Raise taxes.


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"Leon"lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote

Given enough time this cycle too will pass and we will be headed for
another ice age, I wonder what we are doing to cause that.

Perhaps the most interesting ice age speculation would be the greenie
response. What would the politically correct explanation be? And how could
we battle "global cooling"?



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Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation
that tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call
it a political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point
in time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens
of times in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming
cycle is futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger
problems to solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and
we will be headed for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing
to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?

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What is getting lost is the fact that there are over 30 million CO2
belching automobiles operating in China and India that weren't in
operation 10 years ago.

Couple that with the clear cutting of the rain forests and you have a
real out of balance CO2 situation.

It is only going to get more out of balance unless the problem is
addressed.


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On 7/18/2012 1:34 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Leon" wrote:

Actually it does support it however it has a greenie interpretation
that tries to, as you have found out, make it sound otherwise. Call
it a political rebuttal if you will.

Yes at the moment the globe is getting warmer, at this brief point
in time, just like it did in the early 90's and dozens upon dozens
of times in the past thousand of years. Trying to stop the warming
cycle is futile and a waste of time and resources, we have bigger
problems to solve. Given enough time this cycle too will pass and
we will be headed for another ice age, I wonder what we are doing
to cause that.

Have you ever seen a dog chasing its tail?

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What is getting lost is the fact that there are over 30 million CO2
belching automobiles operating in China and India that weren't in
operation 10 years ago.


Which is still a drop in the bucket compared to naturally occurring CO2,
like all those people breathing, even 10 years ago.


Couple that with the clear cutting of the rain forests and you have a
real out of balance CO2 situation.


That has been going on long becore this all became the latest fad.


It is only going to get more out of balance unless the problem is
addressed.


What exactly is out of balance and what makes you so sure everything is
not headed towards being in balance. Just what are the exact
measurements of "what you thing is out of balance" should we be shooting
for LEW???


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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:07:14 -0700, Artemus wrote:

Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.


Indeed. Here's the next paragraph:


The density and width of tree rings shows how warm it was during each
year's growing season, and trees thereby serve as a record of long-term
climate trends.
The density and width of tree rings shows how warm it was during each
year's growing season, and trees thereby serve as a record of long-term
climate trends.
CREDIT: NSF.gov
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of manmade global
warming.

The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last
week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."

That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations
etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a
New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of
the world."

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"However, the study actually does none of the above. "Our study doesn't
go against anthropogenic global warming in any way," said Robert Wilson,
a paleoclimatologist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland and a
co-author of the study, which appeared July 8 in the journal Nature
Climate Change. The tree rings do help fill in a piece of Earth's
complicated climate puzzle, he said. However, it is climate change
deniers who seem to have misconstrued the bigger picture"

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On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:11:09 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:07:14 -0700, Artemus wrote:

Never mind. I see why you didn't provide one. The balance of the
article doesn't support the part you quoted.


Indeed. Here's the next paragraph:


The density and width of tree rings shows how warm it was during each
year's growing season, and trees thereby serve as a record of long-term
climate trends.
The density and width of tree rings shows how warm it was during each
year's growing season, and trees thereby serve as a record of long-term
climate trends.
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A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of manmade global
warming.

The tree rings "prove [the] climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval
times than it is now," the British newspaper the Daily Mail reported last
week, "and [the] world has been cooling for 2,000 years."

That and other articles suggest the current global warming trend is a
mere blip when viewed in the context of natural temperature oscillations
etched into tree rings over the past two millennia. The Star-Ledger, a
New Jersey newspaper, mused that the findings lock in "one piece of an
extremely complex puzzle that has been oversimplified by the Al Gores of
the world."

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"However, the study actually does none of the above. "Our study doesn't
go against anthropogenic global warming in any way," said Robert Wilson,
a paleoclimatologist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland and a
co-author of the study, which appeared July 8 in the journal Nature
Climate Change. The tree rings do help fill in a piece of Earth's
complicated climate puzzle, he said. However, it is climate change
deniers who seem to have misconstrued the bigger picture"


IOW, "Here's how _we_ want you to construe our findings..." rather
than letting people go with the facts. Riiiiiiiiiiight.

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On 7/17/2012 2:57 PM, Leon wrote:
A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.


Anyone interested in the issue should read the IPCC findings on what a
poor job they had been doing themselves with regard to, but not limited
to, the following:

Conflicts of interest; disregarding of controversial review comments;
genuine controversies not being adequately reflected in their reports;
not following their own guidelines about policies formulated on
statements of high confidence, but little evidence; lack of
transparency; due consideration not given to properly documented
alternative views; not policing unpublished and non-peer-reviewed
sources; lack of procedures to changes to reduce opportunities for
political interference with scientific results; not ensuring that the
main conclusions in its assessment reports are underpinned by
appropriately referenced peer-reviewed sources or, to the greatest
extent practical, by openly accessible databases.

The recommending of these interdepartmental changes is arguably a tacit
admission that many of their previous reports may have been based on
flawed science, were not peer reviewed, and many may have been
politically motivated.

Interesting reading, considering the source ... the mother of the AGW
movement:

http://reviewipcc.interacademycounci...onclusions.pdf

What else would you expect ... "trust but verify", without the
verification, is naught but a fool's practice.

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On 7/20/12 7:40 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 7/17/2012 2:57 PM, Leon wrote:
A new analysis of 2,000 years of tree ring data has quickly made climate
change deniers' list of greatest hits to the theory of man made global
warming.


Anyone interested in the issue should read the IPCC findings on what a
poor job they had been doing themselves with regard to, but not limited
to, the following:

Conflicts of interest; disregarding of controversial review comments;
genuine controversies not being adequately reflected in their reports;
not following their own guidelines about policies formulated on
statements of high confidence, but little evidence; lack of
transparency; due consideration not given to properly documented
alternative views; not policing unpublished and non-peer-reviewed
sources; lack of procedures to changes to reduce opportunities for
political interference with scientific results; not ensuring that the
main conclusions in its assessment reports are underpinned by
appropriately referenced peer-reviewed sources or, to the greatest
extent practical, by openly accessible databases.

The recommending of these interdepartmental changes is arguably a tacit
admission that many of their previous reports may have been based on
flawed science, were not peer reviewed, and many may have been
politically motivated.

Interesting reading, considering the source ... the mother of the AGW
movement:

http://reviewipcc.interacademycounci...onclusions.pdf


What else would you expect ... "trust but verify", without the
verification, is naught but a fool's practice.


Unfortunately, the horses... pulling a carriage full of politically
corrupt government mandates designed to redistribute global wealth and
make Al Gore incredibly wealthy (his will not be redistributed,
however)... have already left the barn.


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