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------------- "Swingman" wrote in message ... Anyone make a beer with nicotine in it? Dip snuff while you drink and it will be about the same thing, maybe even more than you want! DAMHIKT |
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On 11/20/11 4:48 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. My son introduced this one to me and now I have an expensive habit. Prior to drinking this beer I did not see the point in drinking beer. This is made in a tiny brewery that did not exist 5 years ago. My on find and a favorite is a Buffalo Bills, Blueberry Stout. Oh man - lots of work to do on you Leon! Beer is not about chocolate, or molasses, or coffee, or freakin' blueberryes! You've been hanging out with the Ladies of the Garden Club too much! Flavored beers! Of all things... Lots of work to do on you... FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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"Bill" wrote in message ... ------------- "Swingman" wrote in message ... Anyone make a beer with nicotine in it? Dip snuff while you drink and it will be about the same thing, maybe even more than you want! DAMHIKT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Used to do that myself. Never did spit. |
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On 11/20/2011 2:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/20/11 2:12 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/20/2011 12:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/20/11 11:02 AM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 4:43 PM, Steve Turner wrote: On 11/19/2011 2:13 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 1:31 PM, Swingman wrote: My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. That sound right up my alley. Somebody should send me one. EHEM! I say, SOMEBODY SHOULD SEND ME ONE! Whare are you? |
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On 11/20/2011 5:25 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/20/11 4:48 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. My son introduced this one to me and now I have an expensive habit. Prior to drinking this beer I did not see the point in drinking beer. This is made in a tiny brewery that did not exist 5 years ago. My on find and a favorite is a Buffalo Bills, Blueberry Stout. Oh man - lots of work to do on you Leon! Beer is not about chocolate, or molasses, or coffee, or freakin' blueberryes! You've been hanging out with the Ladies of the Garden Club too much! Flavored beers! Of all things... Lots of work to do on you... FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Prezicely! A little more than 8% alcohol. Brewed cold, packaged cold and sold cold. |
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On 11/20/2011 4:48 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. My son introduced this one to me and now I have an expensive habit. Prior to drinking this beer I did not see the point in drinking beer. This is made in a tiny brewery that did not exist 5 years ago. My on find and a favorite is a Buffalo Bills, Blueberry Stout. Oh man - lots of work to do on you Leon! Beer is not about chocolate, or molasses, or coffee, or freakin' blueberryes! You've been hanging out with the Ladies of the Garden Club too much! Flavored beers! Of all things... Lots of work to do on you... OBTY the Christmas Ale that gave me a headache was actually Breckenridge Christmas Ale. |
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:16:35 -0500, Bill wrote:
------------- "Swingman" wrote in message ... Anyone make a beer with nicotine in it? Dip snuff while you drink and it will be about the same thing, maybe even more than you want! DAMHIKT Yeah, spit your chaw into your beer while you drink it. Win/Win! -- Happiness is not a station you arrive at, but a manner of traveling. -- Margaret Lee Runbeck |
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Guinness here or a German porter.
None of that carbonated crap. Lots of taste and body... Mothers milk..... On 11/20/2011 3:12 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/20/2011 12:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/20/11 11:02 AM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 4:43 PM, Steve Turner wrote: On 11/19/2011 2:13 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 1:31 PM, Swingman wrote: On 11/19/2011 11:37 AM, Steve Turner wrote: I suppose all of us at one time or another have managed to install the blade backwards on our tablesaw and wondered why the hell the thing wasn't cutting worth a damn, but I've never had it happen on my bandsaw before. I was uncoiling a 1/4" blade from storage and somehow I managed to get the thing turned inside out, and it never occurred to me to check the direction of the teeth while installing it. Come ON, no blade could possibly be THAT dull! Be careful out there. :-) I'm blaming it all it on Mike. I cut the birds mouth in the wrong place on six rafters this morning ... just what the hell was in that Christmas Ale?? Then again, it may have been that Texas Red Tongue Oil ... Was he drinking Sam Adams Christmas Ale??? so was I, and ended up with a heck of a head ache. Shiner Holiday Cheer is pretty darn good considering it is not a stout. BTY I am currently hooked on Buffalo Bills Blueberry Stout. Yes Blueberry! I had a headache this morning too (which is when my bandsaw was making fun of me), and I only had that one Christmas Ale! I agree with Karl; it's Mike's fault. I mean who in their right mind would turn a bandsaw blade inside out? Oddly I normally don't have a head ache after a few beers, but I tried Samuel Aiems Christmas Ale and one bottle gave me a head ache. It wasn't the Sam Adams that have you the headache. It was the four *good* beers it took to get taste of Sam Adams out of your mouth. :-) My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. My son introduced this one to me and now I have an expensive habit. Prior to drinking this beer I did not see the point in drinking beer. This is made in a tiny brewery that did not exist 5 years ago. My on find and a favorite is a Buffalo Bills, Blueberry Stout. |
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On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. |
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On 11/20/2011 2:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/20/11 2:12 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/20/2011 12:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/20/11 11:02 AM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 4:43 PM, Steve Turner wrote: On 11/19/2011 2:13 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 1:31 PM, Swingman wrote: My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. That sound right up my alley. Somebody should send me one. EHEM! I say, SOMEBODY SHOULD SEND ME ONE! Mike I would gladly send you one but I visited the brewery a few weeks ago and Buried Hatchet is brewed cold and it stays that way till you walk out of the store with it. Now if you are willing to take a hot one I'll gladly send one to you. From what I understand it is best not to let them warm up and rechill. |
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Leon wrote:
On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... -- -Mike- |
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On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... You drink it the next morning after you realized you opened it up last night and forgot where you put it. -- "Our beer goes through thousands of quality Czechs every day." (From a Shiner Bock billboard I saw in Austin some years ago) To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On 11/22/11 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... I was wondering the same thing. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 11/22/11 10:38 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/20/2011 2:55 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/20/11 2:12 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/20/2011 12:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/20/11 11:02 AM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 4:43 PM, Steve Turner wrote: On 11/19/2011 2:13 PM, Leon wrote: On 11/19/2011 1:31 PM, Swingman wrote: My favorites at the moment are Southern Star, Buried Hatchet. That is a chocolaty, coffee, molasses flavored stout. That sound right up my alley. Somebody should send me one. EHEM! I say, SOMEBODY SHOULD SEND ME ONE! Mike I would gladly send you one but I visited the brewery a few weeks ago and Buried Hatchet is brewed cold and it stays that way till you walk out of the store with it. Now if you are willing to take a hot one I'll gladly send one to you. From what I understand it is best not to let them warm up and rechill. "Best not to let warm up" is the case for most beers, really. However, it's often only a case of going from "spectacularly mind blowing" to "ridiculously good tasting." :-) Or in the case of Bud and Miller, "cold ****" to "warm ****." -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Steve Turner wrote:
On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... You drink it the next morning after you realized you opened it up last night and forgot where you put it. Yeuch! -- -Mike- |
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On 11/22/11 12:57 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: Or in the case of Bud and Miller, "cold ****" to "warm ****." Amen. And... add Coors to that list. Any kind of Coors. Add pretty much any from a non-craft, beer conglomerate.... which I think has been recently narrowed down to 2, worldwide. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Nov 22, 1:55*pm, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Steve Turner wrote: On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? *Scents??? *So much work to do on you guys... * *We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. *;~) *Don't knock it till you try it. I have! *Vodka is not carbonated. *BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? *Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... You drink it the next morning after you realized you opened it up last night and forgot where you put it. Yeuch! -- -Mike- The penultimate YEUCH if there's a cigarette butt in it...or so I'm told.. |
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On 11/22/2011 1:51 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/22/11 12:57 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: Or in the case of Bud and Miller, "cold ****" to "warm ****." Amen. And... add Coors to that list. Any kind of Coors. Add pretty much any from a non-craft, beer conglomerate.... which I think has been recently narrowed down to 2, worldwide. Exactly, If you ain't paying about $10 for a 4 or 6 pack you are getting the stuff Beero's drink. LOL I am finding that I prefer the oatmeal stouts, although the Buried Hatched is a stout I am not sure which. |
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On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... What I meant to say was we go with a really toned down "hoppie" beer with a particular smokey, chocolatey, coffee, fruity flavor. |
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On 11/22/2011 12:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/22/11 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... I was wondering the same thing. I could be wrong here but when I mention carbonation and beer and all the beer experts, those at the brewery making the stuff, tend to correct me and refer to the beer being hoppie. No carbonated water is used, the hops make the fiz. |
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On 11/23/11 8:27 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/22/2011 12:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/22/11 11:29 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: On 11/21/2011 6:51 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: FWIW, that Buried Hatchet is just a strong stout. The "chocolate, or molasses, or coffee" is just a description of the flavors and scents, not any infusions. Flavors??? Scents??? So much work to do on you guys... We no longer drink carbonated alcohol. ;~) Don't knock it till you try it. I have! Vodka is not carbonated. BTW - how in the hell do you drink a beer that is not carbonated? Even if it's croisan brewed, it still is carbonated... I was wondering the same thing. I could be wrong here but when I mention carbonation and beer and all the beer experts, those at the brewery making the stuff, tend to correct me and refer to the beer being hoppie. No carbonated water is used, the hops make the fiz. All this stuff can be googled of course, but carbonation is a byproduct of fermentation.... I heard a brewer refer to it as "yeast farts." The problem is it escapes out of the liquid, unless it's sealed. Some beers are "bottle conditioned" and left to ferment a bit longer after being bottled. Some beers have been allowed to gas out all their carbonation and are "charged" with CO2 or Nitrogen. I'm sure I have some details mixed up. I believe adding more hops at some point in the brewing process increases alcohol content/fermentation and obviously adds bitterness. That could be what he's referring to. AFAIK, when someone says a beer is "hoppy" they're talking about the bitter taste and the citrusy, flowery smell of the beer. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Many times the lack of temperature control makes it bitter. Brewing too
fast changes the flavour. Natural carbonation happening on the bottle can be dangerous as in the old days when glass bottles exploded. ------------- "-MIKE-" wrote in message ... All this stuff can be googled of course, but carbonation is a byproduct of fermentation.... I heard a brewer refer to it as "yeast farts." The problem is it escapes out of the liquid, unless it's sealed. Some beers are "bottle conditioned" and left to ferment a bit longer after being bottled. Some beers have been allowed to gas out all their carbonation and are "charged" with CO2 or Nitrogen. I'm sure I have some details mixed up. I believe adding more hops at some point in the brewing process increases alcohol content/fermentation and obviously adds bitterness. That could be what he's referring to. AFAIK, when someone says a beer is "hoppy" they're talking about the bitter taste and the citrusy, flowery smell of the beer. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 11/23/2011 8:24 AM, Leon wrote:
What I meant to say was we go with a really toned down "hoppie" beer with a particular smokey, chocolatey, coffee, fruity flavor. Still rather lick a wet dog ... -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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Leon wrote:
What I meant to say was we go with a really toned down "hoppie" beer with a particular smokey, chocolatey, coffee, fruity flavor. Leon - Stop It! Geezus - "chocolatey"... Ugh! We're going to be seeing you on HGTV soon, aren't we? Doing the "Mom's Special". Such a shame to see such a good man go down this way... -- -Mike- |
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Swingman wrote:
On 11/23/2011 8:24 AM, Leon wrote: What I meant to say was we go with a really toned down "hoppie" beer with a particular smokey, chocolatey, coffee, fruity flavor. Still rather lick a wet dog ... Yeah Swing! Maybe you can reach the boy - I can't. And, he seemed like a pretty nice guy... -- -Mike- |
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m II wrote:
Many times the lack of temperature control makes it bitter. Brewing too fast changes the flavour. Natural carbonation happening on the bottle can be dangerous as in the old days when glass bottles exploded. Croisan (sp?) brewing is a touchy process. It's still practiced by some commercial and home brewers today. In yesteryear, more of the home brewing explosions were a result of the bottles used by home brewers than by the actual process though. It does create an increase in pressure as the secondary fermentation takes place, and good bottles are a must, or things can go bust. -- -Mike- |
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-MIKE- wrote:
I believe adding more hops at some point in the brewing process increases alcohol content/fermentation and obviously adds bitterness. That could be what he's referring to. AFAIK, when someone says a beer is "hoppy" they're talking about the bitter taste and the citrusy, flowery smell of the beer. Yup - hops is a flavor ingredient. Sugar and yeast are the culprits responsible for the alcohol content. -- -Mike- |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:41:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: m II wrote: Many times the lack of temperature control makes it bitter. Brewing too fast changes the flavour. Natural carbonation happening on the bottle can be dangerous as in the old days when glass bottles exploded. Croisan (sp?) brewing is a touchy process. It's still practiced by some commercial and home brewers today. In yesteryear, more of the home brewing explosions were a result of the bottles used by home brewers than by the actual process though. It does create an increase in pressure as the secondary fermentation takes place, and good bottles are a must, or things can go bust. An uncle used to brew root beer in his basement. Evedently, one time he got a little carried away with the "secondary" fermentation and he had a chain reaction of bottles exploding. After cleaning up that mess, he always stored the bottled brew in garbage cans. |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:59:56 -0600, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/24/11 11:57 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:41:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: m II wrote: Many times the lack of temperature control makes it bitter. Brewing too fast changes the flavour. Natural carbonation happening on the bottle can be dangerous as in the old days when glass bottles exploded. Croisan (sp?) brewing is a touchy process. It's still practiced by some commercial and home brewers today. In yesteryear, more of the home brewing explosions were a result of the bottles used by home brewers than by the actual process though. It does create an increase in pressure as the secondary fermentation takes place, and good bottles are a must, or things can go bust. An uncle used to brew root beer in his basement. Evedently, one time he got a little carried away with the "secondary" fermentation and he had a chain reaction of bottles exploding. After cleaning up that mess, he always stored the bottled brew in garbage cans. I have a home brew kit ready to go, but I have to wait until I have a couple months of cold weather so I have somewhere cool to store the bucket while it ferments. I've thought about it but I'm not supposed to drink alcohol so there is little point (I'll have some NA beer for turkey dinner in a few minutes). :-( |
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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:07:53 -0600, "
wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:59:56 -0600, -MIKE- wrote: On 11/24/11 11:57 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:41:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: m II wrote: Many times the lack of temperature control makes it bitter. Brewing too fast changes the flavour. Natural carbonation happening on the bottle can be dangerous as in the old days when glass bottles exploded. Croisan (sp?) brewing is a touchy process. It's still practiced by some commercial and home brewers today. In yesteryear, more of the home brewing explosions were a result of the bottles used by home brewers than by the actual process though. It does create an increase in pressure as the secondary fermentation takes place, and good bottles are a must, or things can go bust. An uncle used to brew root beer in his basement. Evedently, one time he got a little carried away with the "secondary" fermentation and he had a chain reaction of bottles exploding. After cleaning up that mess, he always stored the bottled brew in garbage cans. I have a home brew kit ready to go, but I have to wait until I have a couple months of cold weather so I have somewhere cool to store the bucket while it ferments. I've thought about it but I'm not supposed to drink alcohol so there is little point (I'll have some NA beer for turkey dinner in a few minutes). :-( I used to home brew a lot in 80's & 90's but took the brewery abart about 6 years ago or so. I'm getting ready to add 360 square ft to the shop so maybe I'll have room again. Three 15 gallon stainless steel vessels with screens fitted and drain valves & thermometer welded in. All 3 have there own 35K BTU burner and they drain from one vessel to the next as you mash & sparge and boil. Anyway the hops are pretty much for bittering and the beginning of the mash and mostly for the nose at the end. The temperature is generally between 150 and 158 F for extracting the sugars. Some step procecdures will start with a lower temperature but generally with todays grains the low rest stop isn't necessary. The high temperature destroys the enzymes that help extract the sugars so when you are ending the mashing process you actually kick it up to 168-170 F to stop the reaction. Mike M |