Woodworking (rec.woodworking) Discussion forum covering all aspects of working with wood. All levels of expertise are encouraged to particiapte.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Posted to rec.woodworking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33
Default Finishing grooves

I've just started making a bow case of red oak (which will go outdoors
a lot) and will be floating the plywood top and bottom in ~1/8"
grooves which I'll be finishing w/ gloss lacquer from a spray can.

Since I had to source replacement wood for some pieces the colour of
them is off, so I've decided to ebonize it (w/ Higgins Fountain Pen
India ink --- essentially lamp black (carbon) in water unless someone
has a better solution).

Before that, I was planning on masking off the sides and spraying the
grooves w/ lacquer --- now I'll have to mask, then ebonize, then
spray, then sand the exposed edges after removing the masking tape,
then when I finish I'll have to mind all these edges....

Is the extra moisture resistance worth the extra work? Or am I wrong
in thinking this would help w/ making this more weather resistant at
all?

William
  #2   Report Post  
Posted to rec.woodworking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,287
Default Finishing grooves

On Oct 25, 5:22*am, "William F. Adams )"
wrote:
I've just started making a bow case of red oak (which will go outdoors
a lot) and will be floating the plywood top and bottom in ~1/8"
grooves which I'll be finishing w/ gloss lacquer from a spray can.

Since I had to source replacement wood for some pieces the colour of
them is off, so I've decided to ebonize it (w/ Higgins Fountain Pen
India ink --- essentially lamp black (carbon) in water unless someone
has a better solution).

Before that, I was planning on masking off the sides and spraying the
grooves w/ lacquer --- now I'll have to mask, then ebonize, then
spray, then sand the exposed edges after removing the masking tape,
then when I finish I'll have to mind all these edges....

Is the extra moisture resistance worth the extra work? Or am I wrong
in thinking this would help w/ making this more weather resistant at
all?

William


I am not sure what kind of bow case you are making. I have heard the
bow front display cases referred to as "bow front cases", and bow
front furniture described in a similar fashion. But I haven't seen
anyone that took them outdoors.

http://www.woodstore.net/bowfrdica.html

If it was case for bow and arrows, I would paint it.

So to try to help with the obvious question of matching, unless you
are going to dye the oak (my first choice would be Behlen's Solar Lux)
then the more opaque the colorant applied, the more you will disguise
mismatched wood colors and appearance. Since I am not sure what you
are making, my only comment would be that dyeing red oak with the
Behlen's red mahogany will make it actually look like mahogany if you
do it right.

More opaque colorants also give better UV resistance to the the wood.
As far as taking the time to seal properly, red oak will move quite a
bit due its porosity. So don't just think about "wateproofing" but
think along the lines of stabilizing the wood better to keep your
project in better from the standpoint of moving panels, opening and
closing joints, etc. To me, anything that goes outside should be
sealed.

Robert
  #3   Report Post  
Posted to rec.woodworking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 33
Default Finishing grooves

On Oct 25, 12:45*pm, "
wrote:
I am not sure what kind of bow case you are making. *I have heard the
bow front display cases referred to as "bow front cases", *and bow
front furniture described in a similar fashion. *But I haven't seen
anyone that took them outdoors.

http://www.woodstore.net/bowfrdica.html

If it was *case for bow and arrows, I would paint it.


It is:

http://www.3riversarchery.com/images...keDownCase.jpg

But I really want it to look at least somewhat natural.

So to try to help with the obvious question of matching, unless you
are going to dye the oak (my first choice would be Behlen's Solar Lux)
then the more opaque the colorant applied, the more you will disguise
mismatched wood colors and appearance. *Since I am not sure what you
are making, my only comment would be that dyeing red oak with the
Behlen's red mahogany will make it actually look like mahogany if you
do it right.


Interesting. I'll have to keep that in mind as an option.

More opaque colorants also give better UV resistance to the the wood.
As far as taking the time to seal properly, red oak will move quite a
bit due its porosity. *So don't just think about "wateproofing" but
think along the lines of stabilizing the wood better to keep your
project in better from the standpoint of moving panels, opening and
closing joints, etc. *To me, anything that goes outside should be
sealed.


Thanks. Excellent points --- sounds like it's worth the effort for me
to seal the grooves and the edges of the plywood top and bottom.

William
  #4   Report Post  
Posted to rec.woodworking
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,287
Default Finishing grooves

On Oct 25, 12:12*pm, "William F. Adams )"
wrote:


Thanks. Excellent points --- sounds like it's worth the effort for me
to seal the grooves and the edges of the plywood top and bottom.


I have never heard of or seen a plywood that wasn't meant to be
sealed. Even the treated stuff is covered with paint or some kind of
finish.

If you can see your way to paint, use oil based enamel. Latex will
breathe a bit, and doesn't have the overall abrasion resistance a good
oil based enamel will have since the case will be used for transport.

Robert
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to paint T-111 grooves? mike Home Repair 9 October 25th 20 10:01 PM
painting grooves in T-111 ben[_2_] Home Repair 8 October 9th 19 12:14 PM
Best Grooves Tom Watson Woodworking 57 November 27th 06 01:00 AM
Cutting grooves in Lexan David Hakala Woodworking 10 January 1st 05 04:07 PM
Tool for digging grooves in walls Robert Irwin UK diy 30 January 6th 04 10:27 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:11 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 DIYbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about DIY & home improvement"