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Lubricating a vise.
I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise.
This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. |
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tiredofspam wrote:
I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I'm not easy, but I can be tricked. |
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On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:27:03 -0400, k-nuttle
wrote: On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? What about the old Johnson's amber paste wax???? |
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k-nuttle wrote:
On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? Never tried car wax. I have used Johnson's paste wax. I have this stuff in a pressure spray can (from Harbor Fright) and it is very convenient. If the surface is stained I spray then scrub with a green pad, wipe off with a paper towel then re-spray lightly. I like it because it is cheap, easy to use and I can make it myself. And it is a snap to apply to a vise screw or lathe tailstock screw. It doesn't collect dust like oil or grease. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I'm not easy, but I can be tricked. |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:02:13 -0400, Gerald Ross
wrote: k-nuttle wrote: On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? Never tried car wax. I have used Johnson's paste wax. I have this stuff in a pressure spray can (from Harbor Fright) and it is very convenient. If the surface is stained I spray then scrub with a green pad, wipe off with a paper towel then re-spray lightly. I like it because it is cheap, easy to use and I can make it myself. And it is a snap to apply to a vise screw or lathe tailstock screw. It doesn't collect dust like oil or grease. Boe-lube or Boe-Sheild from Boeing is perhaps the BEST - but "best" doesn't come cheap. |
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Thanks, that seems to be the ticket for the screw and guide bars.
For the half nut, I am going to put on a thicker coat of melted wax under the nut, and on the nut. The nut moves back and forth a little. I don't want the bronze nut to wear out if avoidable. On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. |
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Thanks, that seems to be the ticket for the screw and guide bars.
For the half nut, I am going to put on a thicker coat of melted wax under the nut, and on the nut. The nut moves back and forth a little. I don't want the bronze nut to wear out if avoidable. On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:15 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:27:03 -0400, k-nuttle wrote: On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? What about the old Johnson's amber paste wax???? Johnson's Wax is great stuff. Hmm, I wonder how my NuFinish car polymer would work on my saw, though. Sounds promising: http://www.primeautomotive.com/msds/...h_wax_msds.pdf Ceramic microspheres sound interesting, oui? -- Win first, Fight later. --martial principle of the Samurai |
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On 11 Jul 2011 23:53:29 GMT, Han wrote:
tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com wrote in news:XPGdnVbFg-QYyIbTnZ2dnUVZ_v- : I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. On the threads of my vises and the 3/4" or so round bars they slide on, I used some Lubriplate grease that originally came with our ultracentrifuges and was "leftover" Lubriplate? That brings back old memories. Isn't that a fairly thick, white lithium grease in a tub? We used it at Security Chevrolet in 1973 for hinges and door locks. When I wrenched later at a Ford dealership, we had a spray lithium grease that was just wonderful. I still buy it at AutoZone. It sprays in as a liquid, then hardens and stays in place. -- Win first, Fight later. --martial principle of the Samurai |
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Larry Jaques wrote in
: On 11 Jul 2011 23:53:29 GMT, Han wrote: tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com wrote in news:XPGdnVbFg-QYyIbTnZ2dnUVZ_v- : I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. On the threads of my vises and the 3/4" or so round bars they slide on, I used some Lubriplate grease that originally came with our ultracentrifuges and was "leftover" Lubriplate? That brings back old memories. Isn't that a fairly thick, white lithium grease in a tub? We used it at Security Chevrolet in 1973 for hinges and door locks. When I wrenched later at a Ford dealership, we had a spray lithium grease that was just wonderful. I still buy it at AutoZone. It sprays in as a liquid, then hardens and stays in place. I got a little squeeze tube, from the leftovers ... |
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On 7/11/2011 2:56 PM, tiredofspam wrote:
I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my cast iron tops and adjusting screws inside my TS I use TopCote. |
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On 7/11/2011 10:44 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On 11 Jul 2011 23:53:29 GMT, wrote: tiredofspamnospam.nospam.com wrote in news:XPGdnVbFg-QYyIbTnZ2dnUVZ_v- : I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. On the threads of my vises and the 3/4" or so round bars they slide on, I used some Lubriplate grease that originally came with our ultracentrifuges and was "leftover" Lubriplate? That brings back old memories. Isn't that a fairly thick, white lithium grease in a tub? We used it at Security Chevrolet in 1973 for hinges and door locks. When I wrenched later at a Ford dealership, we had a spray lithium grease that was just wonderful. I still buy it at AutoZone. It sprays in as a liquid, then hardens and stays in place. Lubriplate is a relatively thin highly refined grease compared to wheel bearing grease, IMHO it is more like the lube in a grease gun. The white spray grease that dries to a dried wax like consistency was typically white lithium grease, similar to Lubriplate but dried thicker/harder. |
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On Jul 11, 8:07*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:02:13 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote: k-nuttle wrote: On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: *I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral *spirits. *I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? Never tried car wax. *I have used Johnson's paste wax. *I have this stuff in a pressure spray can (from Harbor Fright) and it is very convenient. *If the surface is stained I spray then scrub with a green pad, wipe off with a paper towel then re-spray lightly. I like it because it is cheap, easy to use and I can make it myself. And it is a snap to apply to a vise screw or lathe tailstock screw. It doesn't collect dust like oil or grease. *Boe-lube or Boe-Sheild from Boeing is perhaps the BEST - but "best" doesn't come cheap. Ditto on the Boeshield T-9. http://boeshield.com/features-benefits/ R |
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On 7/13/11 1:12 AM, RicodJour wrote:
On Jul 11, 8:07 pm, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:02:13 -0400, Gerald wrote: k-nuttle wrote: On 7/11/2011 4:30 PM, Gerald Ross wrote: I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. Do you find the dissolved paraffin does a better job that using a good grade of car wax on you saw? Never tried car wax. I have used Johnson's paste wax. I have this stuff in a pressure spray can (from Harbor Fright) and it is very convenient. If the surface is stained I spray then scrub with a green pad, wipe off with a paper towel then re-spray lightly. I like it because it is cheap, easy to use and I can make it myself. And it is a snap to apply to a vise screw or lathe tailstock screw. It doesn't collect dust like oil or grease. Boe-lube or Boe-Sheild from Boeing is perhaps the BEST - but "best" doesn't come cheap. Ditto on the Boeshield T-9. http://boeshield.com/features-benefits/ R Boeshield is a no-brainer. You can use it for everything. Saw tops and anything else. There is absolutely zero dust or grit collection. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 7/12/2011 8:01 AM, Leon wrote:
On 7/11/2011 2:56 PM, tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my cast iron tops and adjusting screws inside my TS I use TopCote. Dido, only way to go. I also use it on my pipe clamps, and on all my metal C clamp screws. I have 2 quick release wood vices and metal vice, use it on them as well. -- Jack You can't Tax your way into Prosperity! http://jbstein.com |
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On 7/15/11 12:15 PM, Jack Stein wrote:
On 7/12/2011 8:01 AM, Leon wrote: On 7/11/2011 2:56 PM, tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my cast iron tops and adjusting screws inside my TS I use TopCote. Dido, only way to go. I also use it on my pipe clamps, and on all my metal C clamp screws. I have 2 quick release wood vices and metal vice, use it on them as well. I think TopCoat and Boeshield T-9 are pretty much interchangeable. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Jack Stein writes:
On 7/12/2011 8:01 AM, Leon wrote: On 7/11/2011 2:56 PM, tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my cast iron tops and adjusting screws inside my TS I use TopCote. Dido, only way to go. Dido? The former queen of carthage? The British singer? The Soccer player? The asteroid? The locomotive? Or did you mean ditto, as in ditto-head? scott |
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On 7/15/2011 3:48 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Jack writes: On 7/12/2011 8:01 AM, Leon wrote: On 7/11/2011 2:56 PM, tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my cast iron tops and adjusting screws inside my TS I use TopCote. Dido, only way to go. Dido? The former queen of carthage? The British singer? The Soccer player? The asteroid? The locomotive? Or did you mean ditto, as in ditto-head? Sorry, was letting my fingers do the walking... -- Jack If Guns Kill then Pencils Miss Spel Words! http://jbstein.com |
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On 7/15/2011 1:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
I think TopCoat and Boeshield T-9 are pretty much interchangeable. I never used Boeshield but TopCote doesn't get sticky, ever. You spray it on and it dries in seconds, then you can wipe it off or not. I wipe it off my big iron, but on vice screws, pipe clamp screws and so on I just spray it on, no wiping. Long ago, when I first set up my shop in a wet basement, fighting rust was a constant battle. I tried everything, including dissolving wax in lacquer thinner and painting it on my big iron. I good friend of mine worked for 3M and he said he saw some stuff at the 3M company store in Minnesota that might work. He brought me back several cans and it was like a miracle. Couldn't believe everyone didn't use it. I never found it on sale anywhere. I even contacted someone at 3M and he never heard of it., and eventually, when I ran out, I found TopCote. The cans looked strikingly similar however, and I suspect they are pretty much the same stuff. Here's some photo's of the two: http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube1.jpg http://jbstein.com/Flick/Lube2.jpg I think the 3M stuff *may* have been better at preventing rust, but not sure. The stuff had a warning not to smoke when using, and it usually gave me a headache after use. Topcote doesn't. I, and Leon recommend it, so give it a try. Wood slides on my iron like leather shoes on wet ice. I consider it a safety issue, more important than blade guards and other hand wringing stuff. -- Jack Ninety-nine percent of all lawyers give the rest a bad name! http://jbstein.com |
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On 7/17/11 10:07 AM, Jack Stein wrote:
On 7/15/2011 1:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote: I think TopCoat and Boeshield T-9 are pretty much interchangeable. I never used Boeshield but TopCote doesn't get sticky, ever. You spray it on and it dries in seconds, then you can wipe it off or not. I wipe it off my big iron, but on vice screws, pipe clamp screws and so on I just spray it on, no wiping. I could write that paragraph about Boeshield. Someone in another thread said it got sticky on them. I'm not going to argue with his experience other than to say I suspect there were other variables involved. I've tried to replicate the results and can't. Either way, they are both great products. I have no horse in the race. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 7/17/11 1:54 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
Just put Boeshield on thick and let it sit for a month. ....... Since then I've noticed this happens consistently with heavy coats that don't get wiped off. I guess I just would never spray it on thick. It's not how I see the product is to be used. If I need a thicker coat of a lubricant, I'm just not reaching for Boeshield, partly because of its price, but mostly because I see it as an "invisible lube," not a grease. :-) Incidentally, when I get a new tool I generally Boeshield it first thing. One time I dropped a Harbor Fright ratchet while I was working on the lawn mower and then couldn't find it. A year and a half later I was digging in a flower bed and there it was, looking like new and working fine. And I'm pretty sure that it wasn't the quality of Harbor Fright's workmanship that kept it that way. Now that is a great practice. Mental note taken. Thanks. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 7/17/11 1:54 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
Just put Boeshield on thick and let it sit for a month. As I posted to the other threads, I replicated your results. It definitely leaves a waxy feel behind... duh, it's wax. :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:30:40 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote:
tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. I realize this is an old thread but you mentioned that you dissolved paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. Could you give me the ratio, for say a pint of mineral spirits? How much paraffin shavings would I add to a pint of mineral spirits? A cup? Two cups? Do you heat it any to make the paraffin dissolve? I would assume an old cheese grater would suffice for shredding the paraffin. Yes? This intrigues me because I've heard many times over the years that's all Boeshield, Top Cote, Top Saver really is - highly overpriced paraffin & mineral spirits. However, no one I've talked to has ever mixed their own so the ratio has remained a mystery. |
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I doubt that Boeshield is that.
I just took a bunch of candle wax shaved off with a knife and put it in a jar. Then took a bit of mineral spirits (MS) and let it melt it. It takes a while. No ratio, I did it by feel. I think butchers wax isn't that far off from this mixture. Or Johnsons paste wax... As someone had mentioned. And I agree. But it was nice making my own. Do not heat it. It's flamable with the MS. It does make a nice lube. And I might actually try less MS next time to use it for runners on draws. Gerald Ross was the one describing the mixture that he used. Which I then just tried to make more viscous than his. For my tablesaw top and other cast iron tops I just use Butchers wax. Every 3 to six months depending on wear. On 4/7/2012 1:52 PM, Spalted Walt wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:30:40 -0400, Gerald wrote: tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. I realize this is an old thread but you mentioned that you dissolved paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. Could you give me the ratio, for say a pint of mineral spirits? How much paraffin shavings would I add to a pint of mineral spirits? A cup? Two cups? Do you heat it any to make the paraffin dissolve? I would assume an old cheese grater would suffice for shredding the paraffin. Yes? This intrigues me because I've heard many times over the years that's all Boeshield, Top Cote, Top Saver really is - highly overpriced paraffin& mineral spirits. However, no one I've talked to has ever mixed their own so the ratio has remained a mystery. |
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Spalted Walt wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:30:40 -0400, Gerald wrote: tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. I realize this is an old thread but you mentioned that you dissolved paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. Could you give me the ratio, for say a pint of mineral spirits? How much paraffin shavings would I add to a pint of mineral spirits? A cup? Two cups? Do you heat it any to make the paraffin dissolve? I would assume an old cheese grater would suffice for shredding the paraffin. Yes? This intrigues me because I've heard many times over the years that's all Boeshield, Top Cote, Top Saver really is - highly overpriced paraffin& mineral spirits. However, no one I've talked to has ever mixed their own so the ratio has remained a mystery. Actually I just dumped a handful into a pint bottle about 3/4 full of mineral spirits. I made the shavings with a little freebie--otherwise useless--hand plane. About twice a day I would shake the bottle. When no more wax was visible I added some more. When no more would dissolve I poured some in a Harbor Freight sprayer.. It looks like a rattle can with a screw-off top and a tire type valve on the side of the top. Put a little pressure in it and Bob's your uncle. I use it on table saw top, vise screws, lathe ways, etc. By the way, I have another recipe. Dissolve grease lube in lighter fluid and pour it back in the can. It works on bicycle chains, hinges, etc. I call it penetrating grease. The naptha evaporates leaving a grease film. If you don't make it too viscous, it will suck right into the cracks of a hinge and lasts much longer than oil. -- G.W. Ross 'Bother,' said Pooh, as he saw the mushroom cloud. |
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:17:46 -0400, "G.W. Ross" wrote:
Actually I just dumped a handful into a pint bottle about 3/4 full of mineral spirits. I made the shavings with a little freebie--otherwise useless--hand plane. About twice a day I would shake the bottle. When no more wax was visible I added some more. When no more would dissolve I poured some in a Harbor Freight sprayer.. It looks like a rattle can with a screw-off top and a tire type valve on the side of the top. Put a little pressure in it and Bob's your uncle. I use it on table saw top, vise screws, lathe ways, etc. By the way, I have another recipe. Dissolve grease lube in lighter fluid and pour it back in the can. It works on bicycle chains, hinges, etc. I call it penetrating grease. The naptha evaporates leaving a grease film. If you don't make it too viscous, it will suck right into the cracks of a hinge and lasts much longer than oil. Thanks for replying. I picked up a 16oz cube of Gulf Wax for $2.99 Thursday at a grocery store and will give this a try! Amazon has the exact same thing but it's more expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Oak-972-.../dp/B000PS6PY2 I searched on Harbor Freight's website for the spray can you described but no joy. Does the one you bought there have a model number on it? Does it look anything like this? http://www.amazon.com/Vaper-Spot-Spr.../dp/B0035FH906 |
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Ping: Gerald Ross
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:24:08 +0000, Spalted Walt
wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:17:46 -0400, "G.W. Ross" wrote: Actually I just dumped a handful into a pint bottle about 3/4 full of mineral spirits. I made the shavings with a little freebie--otherwise useless--hand plane. About twice a day I would shake the bottle. When no more wax was visible I added some more. When no more would dissolve I poured some in a Harbor Freight sprayer.. It looks like a rattle can with a screw-off top and a tire type valve on the side of the top. Put a little pressure in it and Bob's your uncle. I use it on table saw top, vise screws, lathe ways, etc. By the way, I have another recipe. Dissolve grease lube in lighter fluid and pour it back in the can. It works on bicycle chains, hinges, etc. I call it penetrating grease. The naptha evaporates leaving a grease film. If you don't make it too viscous, it will suck right into the cracks of a hinge and lasts much longer than oil. Thanks for replying. I picked up a 16oz cube of Gulf Wax for $2.99 Thursday at a grocery store and will give this a try! Amazon has the exact same thing but it's more expensive. http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Oak-972-.../dp/B000PS6PY2 I searched on Harbor Freight's website for the spray can you described but no joy. Does the one you bought there have a model number on it? Does it look anything like this? http://www.amazon.com/Vaper-Spot-Spr.../dp/B0035FH906 The one I bought at HF was more like this: http://tinyurl.com/6r9yurm I'll sell it for $10 + shipping from Oregon 97526. I think I tried it once for latex paint (too thick), cleaned it out, and it has been sitting since. NOS in box, made in Taiwan, with nozzle, cap, and instructions. It's a painted aluminum cylinder with machined aluminum top. HF #01102, which is no longer made. -- Live Simply. Speak Kindly. Care Deeply. Love Generously. -- anon |
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Ping: Gerald Ross (was: Lubricating a vise.)
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:52:14 +0000, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:30:40 -0400, Gerald Ross wrote: For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. I realize this is an old thread but you mentioned that you dissolved paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. Could you give me the ratio, for say a pint of mineral spirits? How much paraffin shavings would I add to a pint of mineral spirits? A cup? Two cups? Do you heat it any to make the paraffin dissolve? My experience is a pound a gallon for waterproofing canvas, so a pint would be 2 ounces of wax. This is a thin solution for brushing on. You can obviously make it thinner or thicker. I made up a gallon of the stuff using Coleman fuel, aka white gas, (VERY flammable petrol, Jeff). A less volatile solvent would be a lot safer. Johnson's Wax uses toluene and/or xylene for a solvent and I've been known to add a little back in if I forget and leave the lid off overnight...or for a week. Toluene, MS, naphtha, turps, etc have low enough volatility that I would consider using them outside with a double boiler. Otherwise, just let it dissolve over 24-48 hours. I would assume an old cheese grater would suffice for shredding the paraffin. Yes? Yes, the finer the better if you can keep it dispersed. It tend to clump up again as it starts to dissolve. Plan on it taking overnight, and just give it a shake every time you walk by. Pretend you're making up a fresh solution of shellac. This intrigues me because I've heard many times over the years that's all Boeshield, Top Cote, Top Saver really is - highly overpriced paraffin & mineral spirits. However, no one I've talked to has ever mixed their own so the ratio has remained a mystery. |
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On 4/7/2012 1:52 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:30:40 -0400, Gerald wrote: tiredofspam wrote: I just picked up a morgan 200a quick release vise. This is bigger than my 3 other vises, and is quick release which none of my other vises are. I took this beast apart and cleaned up all the gunk, and resins. I was thinking of melting candle wax to use as lube, but am curious what others are using for lube on their half nuts. This is not a half nut, more like a 1/8 nut, it only turns one rotation. Quite interesting. I will mount on another bench to see if I like it. For my vise parts and most moving things that are exposed to dust, I use a spray I make up by dissolving paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. I also use this on my saw table. The mineral spirits evaporates leaving an invisible film of paraffin wax. I realize this is an old thread but you mentioned that you dissolved paraffin shavings in mineral spirits. Could you give me the ratio, for say a pint of mineral spirits? How much paraffin shavings would I add to a pint of mineral spirits? A cup? Two cups? Do you heat it any to make the paraffin dissolve? I would assume an old cheese grater would suffice for shredding the paraffin. Yes? This intrigues me because I've heard many times over the years that's all Boeshield, Top Cote, Top Saver really is - highly overpriced paraffin& mineral spirits. However, no one I've talked to has ever mixed their own so the ratio has remained a mystery. I have dissolved wax in Lacquer thinner and painted it on my tool tops when my old shop used to get waterlogged. It is NOT the same as Top Cote, doesn't last as long, is no where near as slick, and plainly speaking, wax sucks. I spray all my tops with topcote or equivalent for over 35 years, it's the way to go. Also, I spray a coat on all my vices, screw clamps, C Clamps, pipe/bar clamps, paint spinner and about anything I can think of that would benefit from a long lasting dry lube. Save your wax for sealing end grain when drying raw wood. I buff it off my table tops but not on the other stuff mentioned. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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