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Regarding O-Rings Lubricating..
Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps,
basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:43 +0000, S.Daley wrote:
Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) |
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"RLM" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:43 +0000, S.Daley wrote: Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld |
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"RLM" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:43 +0000, S.Daley wrote: Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Depends entirely on what the o-ring is made from. But, probably not a good choice for potable water, certainly not if in contact (altho a minimal risk, isn't approved for food contact). I'd ask OP _what_ o-rings, what kind/style of pump, etc., ... Depending, may not need any lubrication and/or may be detrimental to performance/longevity or may be water-lubricated or... -- |
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Regarding O-Rings Lubricating..
Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld I do. Petroleum and Butyl rubber are completely compatible. Use of Vaseline on Buna-n O-rings is a standard procedure. |
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Regarding O-Rings Lubricating..
wrote in message ... Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld I do. Petroleum and Butyl rubber are completely compatible. Use of Vaseline on Buna-n O-rings is a standard procedure. the manual for my pool pump said to use silicone grease. i know rtfm is against the guy rules though.... |
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Regarding O-Rings Lubricating..
Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Depends entirely on what the o-ring is made from. Most O-rings are Buna-n, some are Viton, others are Teflon. Vaseline is compatable with all of them. But, probably not a good choice for potable water, certainly not if in contact (altho a minimal risk, isn't approved for food contact). I'd ask OP _what_ o-rings, what kind/style of pump, etc., ... Depending, may not need any lubrication and/or may be detrimental to performance/longevity or may be water-lubricated or... The small amounts of Vaseline that may enter the water will cause no harm. Vaseline is non toxic. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:43:18 -0700, "charlie"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld I do. Petroleum and Butyl rubber are completely compatible. Use of Vaseline on Buna-n O-rings is a standard procedure. the manual for my pool pump said to use silicone grease. i know rtfm is against the guy rules though.... You can use silicone grease but it is more costly and really isn't needed. What would you rather ingest? Vaseline or Silicone? Have you ever tried to get rid of a Silicone residual when trying to paint? |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:27:51 -0400, MLD wrote:
"RLM" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:43 +0000, S.Daley wrote: Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline). As tnom has stated it is eatable and worked for me and a host of mechanics for over forty years. Even used it on poly packing. Easy to see if contaminated and what the contaminate is. A metal shaving or grit in a dark grease will lead to rework. The most expensive work because it it at no profit and may ruin your reputation. Your reputation is hardest part of rework to repair. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:43:18 -0700, "charlie" wrote: wrote in message . .. Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld I do. Petroleum and Butyl rubber are completely compatible. Use of Vaseline on Buna-n O-rings is a standard procedure. the manual for my pool pump said to use silicone grease. i know rtfm is against the guy rules though.... You can use silicone grease but it is more costly and really isn't needed. What would you rather ingest? Vaseline or Silicone? Have you ever tried to get rid of a Silicone residual when trying to paint? neither, but silicone is inert and vaseline is oil based. you can buy a tube of it in an auto parts store for about the same price as a tub of vaseline. look for boat trailer bearing grease. i have also read that some o-rings will disintegrate if used with oil based lubricants; manuals explicitly state not to use it on some pumps that i have. i can't tell the difference between materials of o-rings and would rather not risk it. you paint the inside of your pumps? |
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i have also read that some o-rings will disintegrate if used with oil based lubricants; Please Quote. Vaseline is 100% compatible with O-rings. manuals explicitly state not to use it on some pumps that i have. i can't tell the difference between materials of o-rings and would rather not risk it. They are speaking of mechanical seals. Do not use petroleum on mechanical seals. Use glycerin you paint the inside of your pumps? No, but Silicone residue is mostly invisible and hard to get rid of. If silicone use becomes standard procedure for lubrication around the house then expect the residue to end up on painted surfaces. If it ends up on painted surfaces you should expect problematic paint jobs. |
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, Kurt Ullman wrote: In article , wrote: i have also read that some o-rings will disintegrate if used with oil based lubricants; Please Quote. Vaseline is 100% compatible with O-rings. Especially since fire codes would be nice if I could hit the close command instead of post... |
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S.Daley wrote:
Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD I recommend plumbers grease, it is much tackier then most lubes & lasts much longer before washing/wiping away. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:40:07 -0400, bq340 wrote:
wrote: Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld I do. Petroleum and Butyl rubber are completely compatible. Use of Vaseline on Buna-n O-rings is a standard procedure. What if the OP's pump body is plastic? The lube has to be compatible with all the material it contacts.... The question was about O-rings. Not plastic. Most plastics fair well will petroleum. |
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"MLD" wrote in message ... Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Back in the day when I was learning how to rebuild scuba regulators and valves I was warned NEVER to use petroleum jelly or oil on a rubber o-ring as the petroleum products would eventually attack and destroy rubber. We used silicon grease. A little goes a long ways. We would apply enough to make the ring appear wet.... but not enough to leave any excess glop on the ring. Food grade silicon grease was available from restaurant supply houses. Dive shops sometimes had it as well. And silicon spray is NOT the same as the grease; it won't last nearly as long. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:26:55 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: "MLD" wrote in message ... Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Back in the day when I was learning how to rebuild scuba regulators and valves I was warned NEVER to use petroleum jelly or oil on a rubber o-ring as the petroleum products would eventually attack and destroy rubber. We used silicon grease. They were wrong as far as O-ring compatibility. Perhaps the valve or other material is what is in question, not the O-ring. A little goes a long ways. We would apply enough to make the ring appear wet.... but not enough to leave any excess glop on the ring. Food grade silicon grease was available from restaurant supply houses. Dive shops sometimes had it as well. And silicon spray is NOT the same as the grease; it won't last nearly as long. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:26:55 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: "MLD" wrote in message ... Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Back in the day when I was learning how to rebuild scuba regulators and valves I was warned NEVER to use petroleum jelly or oil on a rubber o-ring as the petroleum products would eventually attack and destroy rubber. We used silicon grease. EPDM rubber is not compatible with Vaseline. Is this what scuba gear uses? It may be because respirators use it. This is the same type of rubber that automotive door seals are made of. EPDM is not used as O-ring material in pumps. |
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
"MLD" wrote in message ... Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Back in the day when I was learning how to rebuild scuba regulators and valves I was warned NEVER to use petroleum jelly or oil on a rubber o-ring as the petroleum products would eventually attack and destroy rubber. We used silicon grease. A little goes a long ways. We would apply enough to make the ring appear wet.... but not enough to leave any excess glop on the ring. Food grade silicon grease was available from restaurant supply houses. Dive shops sometimes had it as well. And silicon spray is NOT the same as the grease; it won't last nearly as long. A little hint about silicon/silicone. I wish to hell people would learn the difference. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone TDD |
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wrote in message You can use silicone grease but it is more costly and really isn't needed. What would you rather ingest? Vaseline or Silicone? Silicone, of course, It is inert and will pass through the digestive system. That is one reason silicone is used for medical devices with body contact. Petroleum jelly is used on cosmetics and on cuts because it is safe too. Lots of uses for it. http://www.gomestic.com/Homemaking/2...um-Jelly.37106 Not to mention as a cheap sex lubricant |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:43:18 -0700, "charlie"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld I do. Petroleum and Butyl rubber are completely compatible. Use of Vaseline on Buna-n O-rings is a standard procedure. the manual for my pool pump said to use silicone grease. i know rtfm is against the guy rules though.... Definitely RTM wasn't part of my Male Manual LOL.. SD |
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Thanks for the link Ed..
SD On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:30:51 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: wrote in message You can use silicone grease but it is more costly and really isn't needed. What would you rather ingest? Vaseline or Silicone? Silicone, of course, It is inert and will pass through the digestive system. That is one reason silicone is used for medical devices with body contact. Petroleum jelly is used on cosmetics and on cuts because it is safe too. Lots of uses for it. http://www.gomestic.com/Homemaking/2...um-Jelly.37106 Not to mention as a cheap sex lubricant |
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S.Daley wrote:
Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Hi, Food grade Lubriplate? |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:26:55 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote: "MLD" wrote in message ... Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring Back in the day when I was learning how to rebuild scuba regulators and valves I was warned NEVER to use petroleum jelly or oil on a rubber o-ring as the petroleum products would eventually attack and destroy rubber. We used silicon grease. A little goes a long ways. We would apply enough to make the ring appear wet.... but not enough to leave any excess glop on the ring. Food grade silicon grease was available from restaurant supply houses. Dive shops sometimes had it as well. And silicon spray is NOT the same as the grease; it won't last nearly as long. My Scuba instructor reffered to the lube he recommended as rubber food, way back in the day. That was probably silicon grease. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:30:51 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote: wrote in message You can use silicone grease but it is more costly and really isn't needed. What would you rather ingest? Vaseline or Silicone? Silicone, of course, It is inert and will pass through the digestive system. That is one reason silicone is used for medical devices with body contact. In the context of a lubricants that may be ingested Vaseline is pure and Silicone lubricant is not. Silicone lubricant has unknown added ingredients that would make me hesitate. Petroleum jelly is used on cosmetics and on cuts because it is safe too. Lots of uses for it. http://www.gomestic.com/Homemaking/2...um-Jelly.37106 Not to mention as a cheap sex lubricant |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:27:51 -0400, "MLD" wrote:
"RLM" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:43 +0000, S.Daley wrote: Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld Thanks MLD, I will be using Silicone grease.. SD |
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wrote in message news On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:27:51 -0400, "MLD" wrote: "RLM" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:32:43 +0000, S.Daley wrote: Any suggestions for lubricating O-Rings that are used for water pumps, basically I want to extend useful life as much as possible. Someone suggested lithium grease? SD Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline) I don't think so---will eventually ruin the O ring mld Thanks MLD, I will be using Silicone grease.. SD *** Google "o ring grease" - You'll get all the info you need L |
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