Always interested in playing around with available, preferably free,
technology, and attempting to gauge how it fits in with woodworking
projects and the building and sharing of same with those of like mind,
here's a current, "spare time" shop project, with no political content.

This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Technology in this instance is Google Sketchup, to model the new
version; and Google's Picasa Web, to follow along with the fabrication
as it progresses:

https://picasaweb.google.com/karlcai...KCenYudjdHmeQ#

For those interested in downloading the actual SU file, it is available
in the Google 3D Warehouse at:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...&prevs tart=0

For those with any interest, knock yourself out using as a basis for
your own non-commercial use.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:10 -0600, Swingman wrote:

Always interested in playing around with available, preferably free,
technology, and attempting to gauge how it fits in with woodworking
projects and the building and sharing of same with those of like mind,
here's a current, "spare time" shop project, with no political content.

This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Technology in this instance is Google Sketchup, to model the new
version; and Google's Picasa Web, to follow along with the fabrication
as it progresses:

https://picasaweb.google.com/karlcai...KCenYudjdHmeQ#

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?
http://tinyurl.com/5dt4xg Ruby gets my guess.
http://www.koko.org/world/art_portraits.html

The 2011 model has a better balance. Kudos.

It's quite tall. I'm curious why you went with 33".

Nicely figured QSWO.


For those interested in downloading the actual SU file, it is available
in the Google 3D Warehouse at:

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...&prevs tart=0

For those with any interest, knock yourself out using as a basis for
your own non-commercial use.

Danke mucho, monsieur.

--
The more passions and desires one has,
the more ways one has of being happy.
-- Charlotte-Catherine

This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Very nice and right up my alley.

In lieu of the cleat under the shelf I would have considered biscuits
or a spline or M&T into the lower spreaders. I have a few similar
pieces where I use a through tenon on the shelf.

The other possibility is hiding the cleat in a blind rabbet or even
pocket screws.

If you do use the cleat consider chamfering it or some other treatment
to make it more "designed" than simply structural.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:10 -0600, Swingman wrote:

Always interested in playing around with available, preferably free,
technology, and attempting to gauge how it fits in with woodworking
projects and the building and sharing of same with those of like mind,
here's a current, "spare time" shop project, with no political content.

This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Technology in this instance is Google Sketchup, to model the new
version; and Google's Picasa Web, to follow along with the fabrication
as it progresses:

https://picasaweb.google.com/karlcai...KCenYudjdHmeQ#

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?
http://tinyurl.com/5dt4xg Ruby gets my guess.
http://www.koko.org/world/art_portraits.html

IIRC his nephew painted it.

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote in message
...
This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Very nice and right up my alley.

In lieu of the cleat under the shelf I would have considered biscuits
or a spline or M&T into the lower spreaders. I have a few similar
pieces where I use a through tenon on the shelf.

The other possibility is hiding the cleat in a blind rabbet or even
pocket screws.

If you do use the cleat consider chamfering it or some other treatment
to make it more "designed" than simply structural.


I saw the dwawing a couple if weeks ago, I thought the same thing but then
realized the the cleat is about 10" above the floor and will probably never
be seen.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:07:59 -0600, "Leon"
wrote:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:10 -0600, Swingman wrote:

Always interested in playing around with available, preferably free,
technology, and attempting to gauge how it fits in with woodworking
projects and the building and sharing of same with those of like mind,
here's a current, "spare time" shop project, with no political content.

This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Technology in this instance is Google Sketchup, to model the new
version; and Google's Picasa Web, to follow along with the fabrication
as it progresses:

https://picasaweb.google.com/karlcai...KCenYudjdHmeQ#

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?
http://tinyurl.com/5dt4xg Ruby gets my guess.
http://www.koko.org/world/art_portraits.html

IIRC his nephew painted it.

I think I'd better leave that particular straight line alone. snort


--
The more passions and desires one has,
the more ways one has of being happy.
-- Charlotte-Catherine

I saw the dwawing a couple if weeks ago, *I thought the same thing but then
realized the the cleat is about 10" above the floor and will probably never
be seen.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, but he will know it's there 50 years from now.

On 2/21/2011 8:32 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

I saw the drawing a couple if weeks ago, I thought the same thing but then
realized the the cleat is about 10" above the floor and will probably never
be seen.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, but he will know it's there 50 years from now.

Actually, I don't mind, in the least, a hidden cleat holding a shelf in
place in that particular situation. (and, in this particular piece,
"hidden" it is, as it cannot be seen unless one was to lie down on the
floor and look up)

It is a traditional, time honored method that is simple, effective and,
with slotted screw holes, has been used for hundreds of years as a
method of support that also mitigates any cross grain movement in all
types of furniture from desks to footstools to tables to magazine racks,
ad infinitum .... and yes, even by the masters themselves. :)

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 2/20/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?

Painted by my wife's nephew, who uses art as a weapon.

The 2011 model has a better balance. Kudos.

Although I had no intention of ever making that particular table again,
I do like to tweak things a bit just to keep from getting bored.

That said, this is just a simple hall table, not some high artistic
endeavor. I was flattered that they have mentioned it repeatedly as
something they would like to have in their new home ... so now they
will. And yes, it is a surprise.

It's quite tall. I'm curious why you went with 33".

It's actually 1" shorter than the original, and not by design. (you
don't want to know).

Hall tables, which were often used in the old days to hold visitor's
calling cards on a tray, are generally taller.

Victorian's apparently did not like to bend over?

Nicely figured QSWO.

Red oak ... simply to insure the chance of a better match to some of
their other furniture (red oak) after being stained.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Feb 22, 6:49*am, Swingman wrote:


Victorian's apparently did not like to bend over?


Only in British boarding schools.
(Somebody had to say that)

I quite like the taller look of a hallway table and the mission/
metropolitan/arts&crafts style suits it well.
Unfortunately at our house, the beauty of the thing would be buried
quickly under a mountain of hats, gloves, keys, etc.
That would trigger an unhappy Angela, and none of us really want that.
G

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:49:19 -0600, Swingman wrote:

On 2/20/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?

Painted by my wife's nephew, who uses art as a weapon.

The 2011 model has a better balance. Kudos.

Although I had no intention of ever making that particular table again,
I do like to tweak things a bit just to keep from getting bored.

That said, this is just a simple hall table, not some high artistic
endeavor. I was flattered that they have mentioned it repeatedly as
something they would like to have in their new home ... so now they
will. And yes, it is a surprise.

Simple is in keeping with the A&C tradition. It's one of the reasons I
like that style.


It's quite tall. I'm curious why you went with 33".

It's actually 1" shorter than the original, and not by design. (you
don't want to know).

BTDT. sigh


Hall tables, which were often used in the old days to hold visitor's
calling cards on a tray, are generally taller.

Victorian's apparently did not like to bend over?

I thought that Victorians were shorter than us back then.


Nicely figured QSWO.

Red oak ... simply to insure the chance of a better match to some of
their other furniture (red oak) after being stained.

That's damned nice figure for red ook. Please tell me that you fumed
it and left the grain open. Pretty please?


--
The more passions and desires one has,
the more ways one has of being happy.
-- Charlotte-Catherine

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:49:19 -0600, Swingman wrote:

On 2/20/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?

Painted by my wife's nephew, who uses art as a weapon.

Oops, missed replying to that: I see. Put a veil over it and tell him
"_Now_ it's art."

--
The more passions and desires one has,
the more ways one has of being happy.
-- Charlotte-Catherine

On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:46:41 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
wrote:

On Feb 22, 6:49*am, Swingman wrote:


Victorian's apparently did not like to bend over?


Only in British boarding schools.
(Somebody had to say that)

I quite like the taller look of a hallway table and the mission/
metropolitan/arts&crafts style suits it well.
Unfortunately at our house, the beauty of the thing would be buried
quickly under a mountain of hats, gloves, keys, etc.
That would trigger an unhappy Angela, and none of us really want that.
G

Get Angela a book on pine needle basketmaking. Cover it with a few of
those to nice effect. Here ya go: http://tinyurl.com/5w7ucmo

OR, better yet, take it up yourself. It takes less time (and ****es
off fewer people) than arguing with trolls.

--
The more passions and desires one has,
the more ways one has of being happy.
-- Charlotte-Catherine

"Leon" wrote in message
news

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:10 -0600, Swingman wrote:

Always interested in playing around with available, preferably free,
technology, and attempting to gauge how it fits in with woodworking
projects and the building and sharing of same with those of like mind,
here's a current, "spare time" shop project, with no political content.

This one's a hall table, being built as a wedding gift for some friends.
The table, in the Arts & Crafts style, is one these folks had expressed
a previous liking for after seeing the original that I designed and
built some seven years or so ago:

Technology in this instance is Google Sketchup, to model the new
version; and Google's Picasa Web, to follow along with the fabrication
as it progresses:

https://picasaweb.google.com/karlcai...KCenYudjdHmeQ#

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?
http://tinyurl.com/5dt4xg Ruby gets my guess.
http://www.koko.org/world/art_portraits.html

IIRC his nephew painted it.




Koko's?

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:49:19 -0600, Swingman wrote:

On 2/20/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Nice looking table. Is that painting above it by Ruby or Koko?

Painted by my wife's nephew, who uses art as a weapon.

The 2011 model has a better balance. Kudos.

Although I had no intention of ever making that particular table again,
I do like to tweak things a bit just to keep from getting bored.

That said, this is just a simple hall table, not some high artistic
endeavor. I was flattered that they have mentioned it repeatedly as
something they would like to have in their new home ... so now they
will. And yes, it is a surprise.

Simple is in keeping with the A&C tradition. It's one of the reasons I
like that style.


It's quite tall. I'm curious why you went with 33".

It's actually 1" shorter than the original, and not by design. (you
don't want to know).

BTDT. sigh


Hall tables, which were often used in the old days to hold visitor's
calling cards on a tray, are generally taller.

Victorian's apparently did not like to bend over?

I thought that Victorians were shorter than us back then.

They kept their cards in suit coat breast pocket.

"Swingman" wrote in message
...
On 2/21/2011 8:32 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

I saw the drawing a couple if weeks ago, I thought the same thing but
then
realized the the cleat is about 10" above the floor and will probably
never
be seen.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, but he will know it's there 50 years from now.

Actually, I don't mind, in the least, a hidden cleat holding a shelf in
place in that particular situation. (and, in this particular piece,
"hidden" it is, as it cannot be seen unless one was to lie down on the
floor and look up)

It is a traditional, time honored method that is simple, effective and,
with slotted screw holes, has been used for hundreds of years as a method
of support that also mitigates any cross grain movement in all types of
furniture from desks to footstools to tables to magazine racks, ad
infinitum .... and yes, even by the masters themselves. :)

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)



--
Ever wonder why doctors, dentists and lawyers have to Practice so much? Ever
wonder why you let them Practice on You?

On Feb 22, 2:13*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:46:41 -0800 (PST), Robatoy





wrote:
On Feb 22, 6:49 am, Swingman wrote:

Victorian's apparently did not like to bend over?

Only in British boarding schools.
(Somebody had to say that)

I quite like the taller look of a hallway table and the mission/
metropolitan/arts&crafts style suits it well.
Unfortunately at our house, the beauty of the thing would be buried
quickly under a mountain of hats, gloves, keys, etc.
That would trigger an unhappy Angela, and none of us really want that.
G

Get Angela a book on pine needle basketmaking. Cover it with a few of
those to nice effect. *Here ya go:http://tinyurl.com/5w7ucmo

OR, better yet, take it up yourself. It takes less time (and ****es
off fewer people) than arguing with trolls.

Collateral damage. **** happens.