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I thought this was good enough to share.

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Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't get
your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally hosed. I
was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran into one of
those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag tip wouldn't work.

I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have, and
it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any stores that
would still be open. I considered making one, but thought maybe
somebody else would have a better solution. I did a search for DIY
screw holding screwdriver or something like that and found a good tip
that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.

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Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish *had thought of it.

Should have claimed Bob got the idea from you. jk

Clever idea. Have to keep that one in mind. Thanks.

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On Feb 11, 7:00*pm, Sonny wrote:
Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish *had thought of it.


Should have claimed Bob got the idea from you. *jk

Clever idea. *Have to keep that one in mind. *Thanks.

Sonny


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Thanks!
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:20:06 -0500, Bill wrote:


A drop of thin CA (superglue) works well also.. When the screw is
started, a little sideways pressure breaks the bond..
I used to worry that the CA might fill the screw head but it never
has..

I thought this was good enough to share.

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Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't get
your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally hosed. I
was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran into one of
those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag tip wouldn't work.

I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have, and
it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any stores that
would still be open. I considered making one, but thought maybe
somebody else would have a better solution. I did a search for DIY
screw holding screwdriver or something like that and found a good tip
that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:20:06 -0500, Bill wrote:


A drop of thin CA (superglue) works well also.. When the screw is
started, a little sideways pressure breaks the bond..
I used to worry that the CA might fill the screw head but it never
has..

I thought this was good enough to share.

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Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't get
your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally hosed. I
was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran into one of
those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag tip wouldn't work.

I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have, and
it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any stores that
would still be open. I considered making one, but thought maybe
somebody else would have a better solution. I did a search for DIY
screw holding screwdriver or something like that and found a good tip
that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.


I use CA when putting a nut in a confined space. Super glue the nut to the
end of your finger, put it into place, screw bolt into nut, pull finger
away. May leave some skin but skin is cheap. it grows back. Thanks for the
tip. May save some skin.




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Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't
get your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally
hosed. I was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran
into one of those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag
tip wouldn't work.

I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have,
and it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any stores
that would still be open. I considered making one, but thought maybe
somebody else would have a better solution. I did a search for DIY
screw holding screwdriver or something like that and found a good tip
that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.


I have this small screw starter tool from New Britain, but it only works
with slotted head screws, not the phillips head screws.
It works very well and grips the screw head tightly.
Here's a pic of it.
It's the third tool up from the bottom of the page (fig.75)
http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artif...html#specialty
Click on the pic for a larger view.


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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:01:59 -0800, Mac Davis
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:20:06 -0500, Bill wrote:


A drop of thin CA (superglue) works well also.. When the screw is
started, a little sideways pressure breaks the bond..
I used to worry that the CA might fill the screw head but it never
has..

I thought this was good enough to share.

Posted by Bob La Londe in the newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking


Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't get
your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally hosed. I
was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran into one of
those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag tip wouldn't work.

I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have, and
it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any stores that
would still be open. I considered making one, but thought maybe
somebody else would have a better solution. I did a search for DIY
screw holding screwdriver or something like that and found a good tip
that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.

Another trick that I have found works very well is to slip a
paperclip onto the shaft of the screwdriver, ten just hook the loop of
the paperclip over the head of the screw to hold it on.
Easier to do than describe.
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TV repairmen (remember those?) use a wrap or two of electrical tape
around both the screw and driver tip. Start the screw a few turns
then pull the driver out, pull off the tape, and tighten the screw.
Works for slotted, phillips, hex, torx, all kinds of drives and
screws. Also works on nuts and nut drivers. I used this method
yesterday.
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lektric dan wrote:
TV repairmen (remember those?) use a wrap or two of electrical tape
around both the screw and driver tip. Start the screw a few turns
then pull the driver out, pull off the tape, and tighten the screw.
Works for slotted, phillips, hex, torx, all kinds of drives and
screws. Also works on nuts and nut drivers. I used this method
yesterday.



I've used Scotch tape more than once.
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A drop of thin CA (superglue) works well also.. When the screw is
started, a little sideways pressure breaks the bond..
I used to worry that the CA might fill the screw head but it never
has..


My variation on that theme - I use the Post-It Note adhesive that
comes in the mail. It's used to seal magazine covers and coupon
booklets and keep them closed during mailing, yet has to be easy to
open without tearing the paper. The stuff is a strip, like a bead of
caulk, and it can be rolled up with a finger. It looks just like a
booger and it's as sticky as one, without the grossness involved. It
makes a dandy temporary adhesive blob to hold a screw onto a
screwdriver, and it's easy to remove and doesn't leave any residue.

R


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Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.


Brilliant, and like many brilliant ideas--simple.
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I have this small screw starter tool from New Britain, but it only works
with slotted head screws, not the phillips head screws.
It works very well and grips the screw head tightly.
Here's a pic of it.
It's the third tool up from the bottom of the page (fig.75)
http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artif...html#specialty
Click on the pic for a larger view.
Bill


Quick-Wedge makes similar drivers which are readily availalble on line.
Art


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On 2011-02-12 14:48:51 -0500, RicodJour said:

It looks just like a
booger and it's as sticky as one, without the grossness involved.


You're right -- in the printing industry, it IS commonly referred to as
"booger glue."

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On 2011-02-12 14:48:51 -0500, RicodJour said:

It looks just like a
booger and it's as sticky as one, without the grossness involved.


You're right -- in the printing industry, it IS commonly referred to as
"booger glue."


Is it really? Makes sense I guess. I think that's another offshoot
from the 3M Post-It Note invention. The story goes that the 3M guy
who invented the stuff couldn't figure out a use for such a weak
adhesive, and his secretary used some to stick notes on his papers.
When other secretary's saw the notes they asked where they could get
some and an industry was born.

R
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I heard the story slightly differently.

I was along the line of nylon.

Task was to find a chemical for a purpose - I don't think it was glue.

When the mixture came out - experiment xx - it was nominal in value.

He, the scientist, made a pad of paper for his admin and she started
to use it - and it was like wildfire in that 3M site.

Martin

On 2/12/2011 6:43 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Feb 12, 6:32 pm, wrote:
On 2011-02-12 14:48:51 -0500, said:

It looks just like a
booger and it's as sticky as one, without the grossness involved.


You're right -- in the printing industry, it IS commonly referred to as
"booger glue."


Is it really? Makes sense I guess. I think that's another offshoot
from the 3M Post-It Note invention. The story goes that the 3M guy
who invented the stuff couldn't figure out a use for such a weak
adhesive, and his secretary used some to stick notes on his papers.
When other secretary's saw the notes they asked where they could get
some and an industry was born.

R



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I heard the story slightly differently.

I was along the line of nylon.

Task was to find a chemical for a purpose - I don't think it was glue.

When the mixture came out - experiment xx - it was nominal in value.

He, the scientist, made a pad of paper for his admin and she started
to use it - and it was like wildfire in that 3M site.


The story of how it was invented from the horse's mouth.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f08e8a9a-f...#axzz18hyDnyKX

I've always thought 3M was a great company. I've never used a product
with 3M on it that wasn't at the very least good.

R
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Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't
get your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally
hosed. I was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran
into one of those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag
tip wouldn't work.

I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have,
and it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any
stores that would still be open. I considered making one, but
thought maybe somebody else would have a better solution. I did a
search for DIY screw holding screwdriver or something like that and
found a good tip that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.


Another cling wrap/wax paper/Al foil roll tip. Ever have the roll jump
out of the box when you're pulling off a piece?
Most of the enclosing boxes actually have hole tabs partially punched
in both ends. Insert a dowel through the hole with a fixed horizontal
dowel at one end and a hole for another horizontal dowel/piece of
wire/etc.
at the other end and the roll stays in the box. Simply putting a
finger
through one of the holes isn't bad either. It's notable how many
people
don't know about this.

Regards,

Edward Hennessey


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Posted by Bob La Londe in the newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking


Sometimes you have to put in a screw in a place that you just can't
get your hand in there and if you drop the screw you are totally
hosed. I was repairing a broken wire in my boat yesterday and ran
into one of those. Of course it's a stainless steel screw so a mag
tip wouldn't work.
I couldn't find any of the screw holder screwdrivers I used to have,
and it was late enough I wasn't confident in finding one at any
stores that would still be open. I considered making one, but
thought maybe somebody else would have a better solution. I did a search
for DIY
screw holding screwdriver or something like that and found a good tip
that worked perfectly.

Poke the screw through some cling wrap.
Place the screw on the screw driver.
Wrap the cling wrap around the screw driver to hold the screw firmly
against the tip.
Start the screw a couple threads.
Pull back the cling wrap and screwdriver to tear the screw through.
Remove the cling wrap.
Tighten the screw the rest of the way.

Its simple, elegant, works very well, and I wish had thought of it.


Here's another cling-wrap tip: A bit of the material over your face will
keep paint specs from falling on your glasses when you do the ceiling. You
can also use it to cover mirrors, door knobs, etc., while painting.


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Thanks for the facts.

Suspect it has worked like a rumor - changes by the number of discussions.

Martin

On 2/12/2011 10:26 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Feb 12, 10:16 pm, Martin
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I heard the story slightly differently.

I was along the line of nylon.

Task was to find a chemical for a purpose - I don't think it was glue.

When the mixture came out - experiment xx - it was nominal in value.

He, the scientist, made a pad of paper for his admin and she started
to use it - and it was like wildfire in that 3M site.


The story of how it was invented from the horse's mouth.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f08e8a9a-f...#axzz18hyDnyKX

I've always thought 3M was a great company. I've never used a product
with 3M on it that wasn't at the very least good.

R

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Thanks for the facts.

Suspect it has worked like a rumor - changes by the number of discussions..

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