I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.

I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue,

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.

"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message
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I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.

I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue,

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.



Some white glues are acutally wood glue. Elmers white glue is not
necessarily a wood glue.

Gorilla makes a White wood glue.


I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. Light woods, white
glue, dries clear. Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods, dark
glue.

On Sep 29, 3:23*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message

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I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue..

I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue,

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.

Some white glues are acutally wood glue. *Elmers white glue is not
necessarily a wood glue.

Gorilla makes a White wood glue.

I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. *Light woods, white
glue, dries clear. *Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods, dark
glue.

I use this stuff a lot.
http://www.weldbond.com/cabinetmaking

For large lay-ups of laminate, Wilsonart 3000 is incredible. That
stuff is insane.

I do like TBIII a lot too, I like the dark colour for those same
reasons you stated.

I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it
does stick, holy cow does it ever.

Robatoy wrote:
....

I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it
does stick, holy cow does it ever.

The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla
foaming) results behind the yellow glue...

They're only advantage imo is the one-part waterproof where it's
actually needed; otherwise the pita factor is far too high as you say...

Marketing can do wonders...

--

"dpb" wrote in message
...
Robatoy wrote:
...

I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it
does stick, holy cow does it ever.

The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming)
results behind the yellow glue...

They're only advantage imo is the one-part waterproof where it's actually
needed; otherwise the pita factor is far too high as you say...

Marketing can do wonders...

--


WHITE Gorilla Glue is not Polyurethane Gorilla Glue.

In article ,
says...

Robatoy wrote:
...

I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it
does stick, holy cow does it ever.

The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla
foaming) results behind the yellow glue...

They're only advantage imo is the one-part waterproof where it's
actually needed; otherwise the pita factor is far too high as you say...

Marketing can do wonders...

The Gorilla glue that foams is polyurethane, not resorcinol.

The only resorcinol glue that is currently at all easily available in
the US is Cascophen I believe (get it from Aircraft Spruce). Aerolite I
am told can still be had in the UK but there doesn't seem to be a US
distributer any longer. DAP seems to have discontinued the Weldwood
product.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 3:23 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message

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I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.

I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue,

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.

Some white glues are acutally wood glue. Elmers white glue is not
necessarily a wood glue.

Gorilla makes a White wood glue.

I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. Light woods,
white
glue, dries clear. Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods,
dark
glue.

I use this stuff a lot.
http://www.weldbond.com/cabinetmaking

For large lay-ups of laminate, Wilsonart 3000 is incredible. That
stuff is insane.

I do like TBIII a lot too, I like the dark colour for those same
reasons you stated.

I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it
does stick, holy cow does it ever.

OK, let me restate, WHITE gorilla glue, works just like regular yellow eood
glue except it is WHITE. Not a polyurethane glue.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0500, "Leon"
wrote:


"Robatoy" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 3:23 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message

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I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.

I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue,

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.

Some white glues are acutally wood glue. Elmers white glue is not
necessarily a wood glue.

Gorilla makes a White wood glue.

I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. Light woods,
white
glue, dries clear. Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods,
dark
glue.

I use this stuff a lot.
http://www.weldbond.com/cabinetmaking

For large lay-ups of laminate, Wilsonart 3000 is incredible. That
stuff is insane.

You use a water-soluble bonding agent for laminate? Amazing! I had
trouble with the waterborne rubber cement and love the solvent-based
stuff.


I do like TBIII a lot too, I like the dark colour for those same
reasons you stated.

I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working
fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and
lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn.

--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:56:44 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

You use a water-soluble bonding agent for laminate? Amazing! I had
trouble with the waterborne rubber cement and love the solvent-based
stuff.

Oops, I meant contact cement, not rubber. Weldwood red is tits!
Weldwood green sucks the big one, and is twice the price. I hate it
when people double the price to call it "green". Especially when it
makes the product less than it was but a large margin. Feh!

--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...

I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working
fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and
lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn.

--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone
bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:03:23 -0400, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com
wrote:

I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.

I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue,

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.

White glue gives more open time, which if I recall correctly is why
Frank Klauz uses it. Yellow glue is stronger, but white glue is strong
enough for most uses. If you have good fitting joints white glue
should still be stronger than the wood.

I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the
pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic.

White glue has a longer open time, and use it for gluing up Windsor
chairs. It's as strong as yellow glue.

Originally, yellow glue was formulated as a "carpenter's glue" that
could be applied to moist wood on the job site.

Incidental trivia - I lifted this from milk.doc:

Elmer’s® glue used to be made from casein, however, it is now made
from a polymer, polyvinylacetate (PVA) since
that polymer is more stable and has a long shelf storage life.
Elmer’s® blue gel glue is made from polyvinylalcohol.