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Yellow vs White glue
I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.
I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue, I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. |
Yellow vs White glue
"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message ... I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue. I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue, I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. Some white glues are acutally wood glue. Elmers white glue is not necessarily a wood glue. Gorilla makes a White wood glue. I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. Light woods, white glue, dries clear. Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods, dark glue. |
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:03:23 -0400, tiredofspam nospam.nospam.com
wrote: I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue. I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue, I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. White glue gives more open time, which if I recall correctly is why Frank Klauz uses it. Yellow glue is stronger, but white glue is strong enough for most uses. If you have good fitting joints white glue should still be stronger than the wood. |
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I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. White glue has a longer open time, and use it for gluing up Windsor chairs. It's as strong as yellow glue. Originally, yellow glue was formulated as a "carpenter's glue" that could be applied to moist wood on the job site. Incidental trivia - I lifted this from milk.doc: Elmer’s® glue used to be made from casein, however, it is now made from a polymer, polyvinylacetate (PVA) since that polymer is more stable and has a long shelf storage life. Elmer’s® blue gel glue is made from polyvinylalcohol. |
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On Sep 29, 3:23*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message ... I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue.. I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue, I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. Some white glues are acutally wood glue. *Elmers white glue is not necessarily a wood glue. Gorilla makes a White wood glue. I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. *Light woods, white glue, dries clear. *Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods, dark glue. I use this stuff a lot. http://www.weldbond.com/cabinetmaking For large lay-ups of laminate, Wilsonart 3000 is incredible. That stuff is insane. I do like TBIII a lot too, I like the dark colour for those same reasons you stated. I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. |
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Robatoy wrote:
.... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... They're only advantage imo is the one-part waterproof where it's actually needed; otherwise the pita factor is far too high as you say... Marketing can do wonders... :) -- |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Sep 29, 3:23 pm, "Leon" wrote: "tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message ... I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue. I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue, I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. Some white glues are acutally wood glue. Elmers white glue is not necessarily a wood glue. Gorilla makes a White wood glue. I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. Light woods, white glue, dries clear. Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods, dark glue. I use this stuff a lot. http://www.weldbond.com/cabinetmaking For large lay-ups of laminate, Wilsonart 3000 is incredible. That stuff is insane. I do like TBIII a lot too, I like the dark colour for those same reasons you stated. I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. OK, let me restate, WHITE gorilla glue, works just like regular yellow eood glue except it is WHITE. Not a polyurethane glue. |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... They're only advantage imo is the one-part waterproof where it's actually needed; otherwise the pita factor is far too high as you say... Marketing can do wonders... :) -- WHITE Gorilla Glue is not Polyurethane Gorilla Glue. |
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"dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues.aspx |
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dadiOH wrote:
dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. True, finger-slip... Anyway, the _polyurethanes_ fared lower than the PVAs in the testing results I've seen... -- |
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Leon wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. .... Also true but only relatively recently has there been anything but the _polyurethane_ foaming over-advertised stuff available under the Gorilla banner... -- |
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On 9/30/10 1:26 PM, dpb wrote:
dadiOH wrote: dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. True, finger-slip... Anyway, the _polyurethanes_ fared lower than the PVAs in the testing results I've seen... That's true. They are NOT strong, they are water resistant. Like another poster wrote, marketing is everything. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote:
On 9/30/10 1:26 PM, dpb wrote: dadiOH wrote: dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. True, finger-slip... Anyway, the _polyurethanes_ fared lower than the PVAs in the testing results I've seen... That's true. They are NOT strong, they are water resistant. Like another poster wrote, marketing is everything. That other poster would have been me... :) (altho there may have been another as well,...) -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. ... Also true but only relatively recently has there been anything but the _polyurethane_ foaming over-advertised stuff available under the Gorilla banner... I have been using and mentioning the WHITE Gorilla glue for almost 3 years.... Not too new for those that frequent woodworking stores and the Borgs. |
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"dadiOH" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues.aspx So which one is resorcinol? White Gorilla glue is not necessarily polyurethane as you stated above. |
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In article , lcb11211
@swbell.dotnet says... "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues.aspx So which one is resorcinol? White Gorilla glue is not necessarily polyurethane as you stated above. But is white Gorilla glue any different in function than Elmer's Glue- All? |
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On Sep 30, 4:52*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues.aspx So which one is resorcinol? White Gorilla glue is not necessarily polyurethane as you stated above. Gorilla glue that dries white is polyurethane based.... but... is that the same as their white glue? Don't know. |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Sep 30, 4:52 pm, "Leon" wrote: "dadiOH" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dadiOH" wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues.aspx So which one is resorcinol? White Gorilla glue is not necessarily polyurethane as you stated above. Gorilla glue that dries white is polyurethane based.... but... is that the same as their white glue? Don't know. White Gorilla wood glue dries clear. For sure. |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message in.local... White Gorilla glue is not necessarily polyurethane as you stated above. But is white Gorilla glue any different in function than Elmer's Glue- All? If you want to pick nits,,,, Gorilla White Wood Glue is designed to glue wood. I highly suspect that you could also use it add glitter to your costume, glue pictures in an album, or glue together pieces of colored construction paper to make a paper chain. I also highly suspect that the Gorilla White Wood glue has a higher bond strength when used with wood than the Elmers Glue ALL product would. http://gorillaglue.com/glues/woodglue/index.aspx I would not necessirily want to use Elmers Glue All to put together an expensive piece of furniture enen though it includes wood as a material that it will glue. It is more of a CRAFT glue that is suited for all around projects including paper, wood, fabric, leather, and ceramics. http://www.elmers.com/product/detail/E1322 I would me more inclined to use an Elmer's Wood glue specificially suited for woodworking. I have used both of those referenced below. http://www.elmers.com/product/detail...rPath=hardware or http://www.elmers.com/product/detail/E701 However the reason I prefer to use the White Gorila wood Glue is that it dries clear. |
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In article , lcb11211
@swbell.dotnet says... "J. Clarke" wrote in message in.local... White Gorilla glue is not necessarily polyurethane as you stated above. But is white Gorilla glue any different in function than Elmer's Glue- All? If you want to pick nits,,,, Gorilla White Wood Glue is designed to glue wood. I highly suspect that you could also use it add glitter to your costume, glue pictures in an album, or glue together pieces of colored construction paper to make a paper chain. I also highly suspect that the Gorilla White Wood glue has a higher bond strength when used with wood than the Elmers Glue ALL product would. http://gorillaglue.com/glues/woodglue/index.aspx I would not necessirily want to use Elmers Glue All to put together an expensive piece of furniture enen though it includes wood as a material that it will glue. It is more of a CRAFT glue that is suited for all around projects including paper, wood, fabric, leather, and ceramics. http://www.elmers.com/product/detail/E1322 I would me more inclined to use an Elmer's Wood glue specificially suited for woodworking. I have used both of those referenced below. http://www.elmers.com/product/detail...rPath=hardware or http://www.elmers.com/product/detail/E701 However the reason I prefer to use the White Gorila wood Glue is that it dries clear. So do you have test results of any kind that show a difference, or do you just buy into Gorilla's hype? |
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:41:24 -0500, "Leon"
wrote: "Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Sep 29, 3:23 pm, "Leon" wrote: "tiredofspam" nospam.nospam.com wrote in message ... I was in Frank Klauz's shop a few weeks ago and he was using elmers glue. I have been using titebond yellow, sometimes an elmers dark glue, I know this is a matter of opinion, but figured I would like to hear the pros and cons of each.... White PVA vs Yellow Aliphatic. Some white glues are acutally wood glue. Elmers white glue is not necessarily a wood glue. Gorilla makes a White wood glue. I use the glue that most closely matches the wood color. Light woods, white glue, dries clear. Light brown TBII , medium brown, TBIII, dark woods, dark glue. I use this stuff a lot. http://www.weldbond.com/cabinetmaking For large lay-ups of laminate, Wilsonart 3000 is incredible. That stuff is insane. You use a water-soluble bonding agent for laminate? Amazing! I had trouble with the waterborne rubber cement and love the solvent-based stuff. I do like TBIII a lot too, I like the dark colour for those same reasons you stated. I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:56:44 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: You use a water-soluble bonding agent for laminate? Amazing! I had trouble with the waterborne rubber cement and love the solvent-based stuff. Oops, I meant contact cement, not rubber. Weldwood red is tits! Weldwood green sucks the big one, and is twice the price. I hate it when people double the price to call it "green". Especially when it makes the product less than it was but a large margin. Feh! -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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I gave my reasons and if you had any other reason to be here other than to
argue I suspect you would not be asking this question. Cute how you came back under a new name so every one would see you again. Plonk again. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. |
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 07:04:54 -0500, "Leon"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. It sat on the shelf for a few years and dried up. The last use, I recall it being fairly thick. Jello, eat your heart out. Those were the Bow Saur Years, Leon. titter -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 07:04:54 -0500, "Leon" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. It sat on the shelf for a few years and dried up. The last use, I recall it being fairly thick. Jello, eat your heart out. Those were the Bow Saur Years, Leon. titter It was probably old and bad, but in the future if the glue starts to "gel" give it several quick whacks against a stationary object or with the palm of your hand. If it is still good it will instantly reliquify. |
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On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote:
"Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Oct 1, 4:38*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry *wrote in message .. . I haven't tried TBIII yet. *TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. *I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. *Live and learn.. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. * * *-- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? *I once thought *my *TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? * That's all you're going to say. -- * -MIKE- * "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" * * *--Elvin Jones *(1927-2004) * -- *http://mikedrums.com * * ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply What? You don't know? |
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On 10/1/10 3:50 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Oct 1, 4:38 pm, wrote: On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. What? You don't know? If we ever meet, remind me to give you a good twap on the head. Then, we'll get a beer. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Oct 1, 4:53*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 10/1/10 3:50 PM, Robatoy wrote: On Oct 1, 4:38 pm, *wrote: On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry * *wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. *TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. *I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. *Live and learn. |
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"-MIKE-" wrote in message ... On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. ;!) If the glue starts to "gel" give it several quick whacks against a stationary object or with the palm of your hand. If it is still good it will instantly reliquify. |
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Leon wrote the following:
"-MIKE-" wrote in message ... On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. ;!) If the glue starts to "gel" give it several quick whacks against a stationary object or with the palm of your hand. If it is still good it will instantly reliquify. Do you mean that after I angrily threw the hardened TBII bottle across the shop against the wall, I could have used it instead of throwing it in the trash barrel? :-) -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On 10/1/10 4:01 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Oct 1, 4:53 pm, wrote: On 10/1/10 3:50 PM, Robatoy wrote: On Oct 1, 4:38 pm, wrote: On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. What? You don't know? If we ever meet, remind me to give you a good twap on the head. Then, we'll get a beer. LOL... that's how I made most of my friends. I heard that all you had to do was smack it onto your work bench. The shock supposedly fixes the glue. I am not kidding, that's what was posted here some time ago. Interesting. I wonder if that's the same for freeze. I've had plenty a bottle spend a few weeks below freezing and I've always heard that's pretty bad for it. Anyone ever get that dark yellow oily stuff on the top of a bottle that's sat for a long, long, time? -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 10/1/10 4:16 PM, Leon wrote:
wrote in message ... On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. ;!) If the glue starts to "gel" give it several quick whacks against a stationary object or with the palm of your hand. If it is still good it will instantly reliquify. Thanks. I am very intrigued my this. My initial thought is that it's BS, but I'll be the first to gloat about it if it works. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 9/30/2010 2:11 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Leon wrote: wrote in message ... dpb wrote: Robatoy wrote: ... I used Gorilla for an outdoor situation------ what a PITA!!! but it does stick, holy cow does it ever. The comparative tests I've seen all have the resorcinal (Gorilla foaming) results behind the yellow glue... Unless things have changed, Gorilla glue isn't resorcinol, its polyurethane, not even close to resorcinol. Yes Things have changed. Gorilla is a BRAND name not a type of glue. http://www.gorillaglue.com/glues.aspx So which one is resorcinol? None are. Resorcinol glue is typically marketed as a boat-builder's glue and not as a woodworking product. Not so much because of its adhesive qualities (it's _incredibly_ strong, waterproof, and solvent resistant) but because it has a deep rich burgundy color with a very obvious glue line. It can also be a bit brittle, as I recall. -- Free bad advice available here. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On 10/1/2010 4:41 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 10/1/10 4:16 PM, Leon wrote: wrote in message ... On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. ;!) If the glue starts to "gel" give it several quick whacks against a stationary object or with the palm of your hand. If it is still good it will instantly reliquify. Thanks. I am very intrigued my this. My initial thought is that it's BS, but I'll be the first to gloat about it if it works. As long as the glue isn't too far gone, it does indeed work. Franklin even outlines this procedure on the back of the TBIII bottle. Don't see it on my bottle of TBII though... -- Free bad advice available here. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
Yellow vs White glue
On 10/1/2010 4:39 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 10/1/10 4:01 PM, Robatoy wrote: On Oct 1, 4:53 pm, wrote: On 10/1/10 3:50 PM, Robatoy wrote: On Oct 1, 4:38 pm, wrote: On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. What? You don't know? If we ever meet, remind me to give you a good twap on the head. Then, we'll get a beer. LOL... that's how I made most of my friends. I heard that all you had to do was smack it onto your work bench. The shock supposedly fixes the glue. I am not kidding, that's what was posted here some time ago. Interesting. I wonder if that's the same for freeze. I've had plenty a bottle spend a few weeks below freezing and I've always heard that's pretty bad for it. Anyone ever get that dark yellow oily stuff on the top of a bottle that's sat for a long, long, time? Giving a good shake generally solves that problem, But .... Don't know about you, even the slighted suspicion that a glue is dicey is enough to send me packing to buy some that's fresh. Usually have too much work, time and materials in my projects to take a chance for the piddling price. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
Yellow vs White glue
On 10/1/10 5:28 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 10/1/2010 4:39 PM, -MIKE- wrote: Anyone ever get that dark yellow oily stuff on the top of a bottle that's sat for a long, long, time? Giving a good shake generally solves that problem, But .... Don't know about you, even the slighted suspicion that a glue is dicey is enough to send me packing to buy some that's fresh. Usually have too much work, time and materials in my projects to take a chance for the piddling price. I'm in that boat with you. But I had to get some in a hurry, last time, and the only bottle (1gal) on the shelf was Elmer's Carpenters and it had about a 1/2 cup floating on top. I shook it to death and haven;t had any probs. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
Yellow vs White glue
"-MIKE-" wrote in message ... On 10/1/10 4:16 PM, Leon wrote: wrote in message ... On 10/1/10 7:04 AM, Leon wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... I haven't tried TBIII yet. TBII and Elmer's Carpenter's are working fine for me. I let an unopened jug of Gorilla poly harden on me, and lost my very first gallon of TBII. I buy quarts now. Live and learn. -- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman How did your gallon of TBII go bad? I once thought my TB III had gone bad, all 3 quarts bottles, Franklin gave me a cure. Really? That's all you're going to say. ;!) If the glue starts to "gel" give it several quick whacks against a stationary object or with the palm of your hand. If it is still good it will instantly reliquify. Thanks. I am very intrigued my this. My initial thought is that it's BS, but I'll be the first to gloat about it if it works. I called Frainklin to complain, they told me to do this, and by golly it worked. apparently this is a normal thing with these type glues. Mine was like pudding before the trick. |
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