Robatoy wrote:


These are people who only care about 'yield'. Now their gold is
flowing into the Gulf instead of their coffers. They truly don't give
a rat's ass about the environment other than the fact that it affects
their 'brand'. Yes, BP would like to stop the negative publicity but
their true and main concern is to have their cake AND eat it too. They
want to look good, but keep the oil as well.
They would like to make that naughty well pay for the clean-up.


No argument about their primary motives - they are after all, a for profit
company. What's wrong with that though? Do you really care what they would
rather do, or do you care that they do the right thing(s)? As long as they
do the right thing(s), I really don't care if the motive was so they could
continue to make profits (oil company profits would be a whole different
discussion thread), and I don't expect a for profit company to genuinely
hold motives that would be more reflective of touchy-feeling organizations.
Of course they should want to keep that well - why would anyone think
otherwise?

--

-Mike-

On Jul 14, 7:59*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
"BP engineers planned to shut off pipes that are already funneling
some oil to two ships, to see how the cap handles the pressure of the
crude coming up from the ground. Then they planned to close, one by
one, three valves that let oil pass through the cap."
Got to catch a few more dollars worth of oil, before turning off the
spigot, eh?

Why should they turn off the spigot?

So you fascist Canadians can control more of the oil market?

Idiot!

Nice complement for Canadians.



"Robatoy" wrote in message
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Idiot!



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On Jul 14, 7:59 am, Jack Stein wrote:
So you fascist Canadians can control more of the oil market?

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:36:25 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy wrote:

On Jul 14, 12:41*am, "__ Bøb __" wrote:
"BP engineers planned to shut off pipes that are already funneling
some oil to two ships, to see how the cap handles the pressure of the
crude coming up from the ground. Then they planned to close, one by
one, three valves that let oil pass through the cap."

Got to catch a few more dollars worth of oil, before turning off the
spigot, eh?

They have to stop the flow gradually .. if they slam it shut, it will
cause the world's largest case of "water hammer" and it could be enough
to blow a hole someplace in the earth's crust that could NEVER be repaired.

These are people who only care about 'yield'. Now their gold is
flowing into the Gulf instead of their coffers. They truly don't give
a rat's ass about the environment other than the fact that it affects
their 'brand'. Yes, BP would like to stop the negative publicity but
their true and main concern is to have their cake AND eat it too. They
want to look good, but keep the oil as well.
They would like to make that naughty well pay for the clean-up.

Don't know about the rest of the country or Canada, but there are a lot
of BP stations in the South and in the last 3 weeks the larger BP
logos are disappearing from the stations. The only place the BP logo
is left is on the flourescent signs, I guess it takes longer to replace the
signs.

And as far as that pinprick in the earth's crust is concerned? That's
like worrying about a hippo's bowels trying to ooze out through a
mosquito bite. BP uses a well-proven tactic by using fear so that the
population can applaud them when they finally triumph over this
leak...but they want to keep the oil too.

Might as well use it now that it is turned loose.

BP has only one motive. ONE only. It is called money. They will say,
do, promise anything with a straight face to get things their way, and
considering the political connections those oil people have, they have
a great pool of PR resources to draw from; the Republicans who have a
bit of experience in that (Iraq) sort of thing.

I personally don't care if BP survives as a viable company or
not (it will). However, hopefully they can be forced into
supporting those most affected and cleaning up at least part of
the spill.

I wonder which BP department is busier these days. Public Relations or
Engineering.

I would bet there is more sweating and hand wringing in the PR
department.

Alabama has more pressing problems than greasy beaches, starving
fishermen and a shut down tourist industry, we have bingo wars.

basilisk

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:56:30 -0500, basilisk wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:36:25 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy wrote:

On Jul 14, 12:41*am, "__ Bøb __" wrote:
"BP engineers planned to shut off pipes that are already funneling
some oil to two ships, to see how the cap handles the pressure of the
crude coming up from the ground. Then they planned to close, one by
one, three valves that let oil pass through the cap."

Got to catch a few more dollars worth of oil, before turning off the
spigot, eh?

They have to stop the flow gradually .. if they slam it shut, it will
cause the world's largest case of "water hammer" and it could be enough
to blow a hole someplace in the earth's crust that could NEVER be repaired.

These are people who only care about 'yield'. Now their gold is
flowing into the Gulf instead of their coffers. They truly don't give
a rat's ass about the environment other than the fact that it affects
their 'brand'. Yes, BP would like to stop the negative publicity but
their true and main concern is to have their cake AND eat it too. They
want to look good, but keep the oil as well.
They would like to make that naughty well pay for the clean-up.

Don't know about the rest of the country or Canada, but there are a lot
of BP stations in the South and in the last 3 weeks the larger BP
logos are disappearing from the stations. The only place the BP logo
is left is on the flourescent signs, I guess it takes longer to replace the
signs.

Haven't seen any, though there's only a couple of BP stations in the county. I
didn't see any fewer on the way to Atlanta last weekend, or Birmingham two
weeks earlier.

And as far as that pinprick in the earth's crust is concerned? That's
like worrying about a hippo's bowels trying to ooze out through a
mosquito bite. BP uses a well-proven tactic by using fear so that the
population can applaud them when they finally triumph over this
leak...but they want to keep the oil too.

Might as well use it now that it is turned loose.

BP has only one motive. ONE only. It is called money. They will say,
do, promise anything with a straight face to get things their way, and
considering the political connections those oil people have, they have
a great pool of PR resources to draw from; the Republicans who have a
bit of experience in that (Iraq) sort of thing.

I personally don't care if BP survives as a viable company or
not (it will). However, hopefully they can be forced into
supporting those most affected and cleaning up at least part of
the spill.

I hope they do. I'd rather not have one fewer competitor.

I wonder which BP department is busier these days. Public Relations or
Engineering.

I would bet there is more sweating and hand wringing in the PR
department.

Alabama has more pressing problems than greasy beaches, starving
fishermen and a shut down tourist industry, we have bingo wars.

I don't know how the "bingo" parlors stayed open as long as they did. I've
only been here a couple of years, but obviously the entire state is corrupt.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:30:37 -0500, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:56:30 -0500, basilisk
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:36:25 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy wrote:

On Jul 14, 12:41Â*am, "__ Bøb __" wrote:
"BP engineers planned to shut off pipes that are already funneling
some oil to two ships, to see how the cap handles the pressure of
the crude coming up from the ground. Then they planned to close, one
by one, three valves that let oil pass through the cap."

Got to catch a few more dollars worth of oil, before turning off the
spigot, eh?

They have to stop the flow gradually .. if they slam it shut, it will
cause the world's largest case of "water hammer" and it could be
enough to blow a hole someplace in the earth's crust that could NEVER
be repaired.

These are people who only care about 'yield'. Now their gold is
flowing into the Gulf instead of their coffers. They truly don't give
a rat's ass about the environment other than the fact that it affects
their 'brand'. Yes, BP would like to stop the negative publicity but
their true and main concern is to have their cake AND eat it too. They
want to look good, but keep the oil as well. They would like to make
that naughty well pay for the clean-up.

Don't know about the rest of the country or Canada, but there are a lot
of BP stations in the South and in the last 3 weeks the larger BP logos
are disappearing from the stations. The only place the BP logo is left
is on the flourescent signs, I guess it takes longer to replace the
signs.

Haven't seen any, though there's only a couple of BP stations in the
county. I didn't see any fewer on the way to Atlanta last weekend, or
Birmingham two weeks earlier.

Could be a local thing, I don't know if all the stations in my area
are owned by one entity or not.


And as far as that pinprick in the earth's crust is concerned? That's
like worrying about a hippo's bowels trying to ooze out through a
mosquito bite. BP uses a well-proven tactic by using fear so that the
population can applaud them when they finally triumph over this
leak...but they want to keep the oil too.

Might as well use it now that it is turned loose.

BP has only one motive. ONE only. It is called money. They will say,
do, promise anything with a straight face to get things their way, and
considering the political connections those oil people have, they have
a great pool of PR resources to draw from; the Republicans who have a
bit of experience in that (Iraq) sort of thing.

I personally don't care if BP survives as a viable company or not (it
will). However, hopefully they can be forced into supporting those most
affected and cleaning up at least part of the spill.

I hope they do. I'd rather not have one fewer competitor.

I wonder which BP department is busier these days. Public Relations or
Engineering.

I would bet there is more sweating and hand wringing in the PR
department.

Alabama has more pressing problems than greasy beaches, starving
fishermen and a shut down tourist industry, we have bingo wars.

I don't know how the "bingo" parlors stayed open as long as they did.
I've only been here a couple of years, but obviously the entire state is
corrupt.

Actually, the three escape holes in the new 'cap' are venting
to the ocean. The other up hoses are long gone. This is a cap it off
exercise. I noticed the flange was unbolted and the top pipe off.
The new hat seats on the flange and uses it to hold pressure so it seems.
I caught that watching the implementation.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
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On 7/13/2010 10:44 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Jul 13, 4:17 am, "Lobby wrote:
wrote in message

4.39...





"Lobby wrote in
:

"Zz wrote in message
...

What are your thoughts on the Catastrophe possibility put forth: that
the sea bottom will collapse (due to the BOP falling over) in the
immediate vicinity of the well and cause a tsunami - among other
cataclysmic issues?

The well is about 18,000 feet deep below the seabed. It's highly unlikely
that 18,000 feet of rock will suddenly collapse into a previously oil-
filled void. Remember, the oil is being forced out by pressure. This
pressure has to come from somewhere, and is most likely the surrounding
rock slowly compressing the reservoir. As the reservoir empties, the rock
will slowly settle into the available space.

What is maybe more likely, in addition to general poisoning of the Gulf
ecosystem, is that the water temperature in the Gulf will rise to a point
where the methane hydrates thaw out, releasing untold quantities of
methane, a potent greenhouse gas, not to mention toxic to most life,
resulting in mass extinction on a global level. Sounds like fun?

Hadn't thought about the hydrates! Ever read "Swarm"?

"BP engineers planned to shut off pipes that are already funneling
some oil to two ships, to see how the cap handles the pressure of the
crude coming up from the ground. Then they planned to close, one by
one, three valves that let oil pass through the cap."

Got to catch a few more dollars worth of oil, before turning off the
spigot, eh?

They have two intercept pipes that will carry off the oil once
working. They should be there next week from what I heard.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
"Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer
TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/

On 7/14/2010 6:59 AM, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

"BP engineers planned to shut off pipes that are already funneling
some oil to two ships, to see how the cap handles the pressure of the
crude coming up from the ground. Then they planned to close, one by
one, three valves that let oil pass through the cap."

Got to catch a few more dollars worth of oil, before turning off the
spigot, eh?

Why should they turn off the spigot?

So you fascist Canadians can control more of the oil market?

Robatoy wrote:

They would like to make that naughty well pay for the clean-up.

How would you like them to pay for it, fire up a printing press?

What a Maroon!

And as far as that pinprick in the earth's crust is concerned? That's
BP uses a well-proven tactic by using fear so that the
population can applaud them when they finally triumph over this
leak...but they want to keep the oil too.

No, they want to sell the oil, and I want to buy it.

BP has only one motive. ONE only. It is called money.

BP is a corporation owned by millions of stockholders, many of them
pensioners and pension funds. Their primary motive is money, but only a
douche-nozzle would think thats their only motive.

They will say,
do, promise anything with a straight face to get things their way, and
considering the political connections those oil people have, they have
a great pool of PR resources to draw from; the Republicans who have a
bit of experience in that (Iraq) sort of thing.

BP supported the communist Obama regime with big money contributions.
Your wild eyed fixation with blame republicans is plain stupid.

I wonder which BP department is busier these days. Public Relations or
Engineering.

Looks like Obama and BP are more concerned with PR in that the first 2
months of the spill were spent blocking every effort to minimize
environmental damage from the spill in a sickeningly obvious attempt to
push the socialist green movement that was seriously damaged when the
global warming fraud was exposed. About all the ****er did was attempt
to ban all drilling in the gulf rather than cleanup the mess.

--
Jack
From Little A.C.O.R.N.S Mighty Marxist Grow!
http://jbstein.com

Robatoy wrote:

So, the headline being written, just in time for elections: " Obama's
skillful handling of the situation allowed BP to save the day and
humanity."

Yeah, thats the headline alright....

What a maroon!

--
Jack
If Ignorance is Bliss, You must be One Happy Liberal!
http://jbstein.com

On Jul 15, 8:17*am, Jack Stein wrote:


BP is a corporation owned by millions of stockholders, many of them
pensioners and pension funds. *Their primary motive is money, but only a
douche-nozzle would think thats their only motive.


So you think that's their only motive?

On Jul 15, 8:22*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
So, the headline being written, just in time for elections: " Obama's
skillful handling of the situation allowed BP to save the day and
humanity."

Yeah, thats the headline alright....


When are you going to grow a sense of humour?

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:00:36 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote:


When are you going to grow a sense of humour?

He's not mentally capable of it.

Robatoy wrote:
On Jul 15, 8:22 am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
So, the headline being written, just in time for elections: " Obama's
skillful handling of the situation allowed BP to save the day and
humanity."
Yeah, thats the headline alright....

When are you going to grow a sense of humour?

Mea Culpa.

I notice the bammer meister has now included himself in stopping the
leak and pressure testing the cap. Even a maroon like yourself should
recognize how your humor attempt would conflict with the bammers delusions.

He should be in jail for blocking every effort to minimize the
environmental damage caused by the spill. If I didn't give him credit
for being one of the dumbest humans on earth, I'd give him credit for
causing the spill itself to further his cap and tax bull**** agenda.

--
Jack
Got Change: More Unemployment! More Debt! More Fraud! Less Freedom!
http://www2.nationalreview.com/video..._051410_B.html
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