Went to Wal-Mart to get mineral spirits (clear, like water), which
I've done before. The spirits I purchased today was milky and it was
not as watery as previous purchases.... same container as previous
purchases. The lid was still sealed I strained it through a paper
towel and collected a bit of a cream-like residue on the towel. The
stained part was still milky in color and still not as watery as
previous products.

Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.

Rinsing some paint stripper with this stained milky stuff didn't seem
to be as effective as with my previous clear spirits purchases. It
doesn't wring dry from a cloth rag, either. It's like wringing out
syrup, i.e., some slow-flowing remainer continues to ooze out after
the watery aspect has been wrung out.

I applied stripper, then opened this new container and discovered this
stuff. I had to use some of it for this initial stripping of a small
area. I don't like testing a new (to me) product on someone's
furniture, this way.

I'm considering bringing it back and get the labeled "paint thinner",
which is clear, for rinsing my stripper.

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny

Sonny wrote:
....

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?

Hard to read the contents/product label from here...

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On 3/25/2010 3:11 PM, Sonny wrote:
Went to Wal-Mart to get mineral spirits (clear, like water), which
I've done before. The spirits I purchased today was milky and it was
not as watery as previous purchases.... same container as previous
purchases. The lid was still sealed I strained it through a paper
towel and collected a bit of a cream-like residue on the towel. The
stained part was still milky in color and still not as watery as
previous products.

Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.

Rinsing some paint stripper with this stained milky stuff didn't seem
to be as effective as with my previous clear spirits purchases. It
doesn't wring dry from a cloth rag, either. It's like wringing out
syrup, i.e., some slow-flowing remainer continues to ooze out after
the watery aspect has been wrung out.

I applied stripper, then opened this new container and discovered this
stuff. I had to use some of it for this initial stripping of a small
area. I don't like testing a new (to me) product on someone's
furniture, this way.

I'm considering bringing it back and get the labeled "paint thinner",
which is clear, for rinsing my stripper.

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?

Sounds like a defective product. Take it back and see if you can get a
clean bottle. Might want to call the manufacturer and see if they'll
tell you where to find the lot number so you can maybe get one from a
different lot.

Doesn't sound like the stuff being sold as Mineral Spirits for the
last 100 years.

On Mar 25, 12:11*pm, Sonny wrote:
Went to Wal-Mart to get mineral spirits (clear, like water), which
I've done before. *The spirits I purchased today was milky and it was
not as watery as previous purchases.... same container as previous
purchases. *The lid was still sealed *I strained it through a paper
towel and collected a bit of a cream-like residue on the towel. *The
stained part was still milky in color and still not as watery as
previous products.

Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? * .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.

Rinsing some paint stripper with this stained milky stuff didn't seem
to be as effective as with my previous clear spirits purchases. *It
doesn't wring dry from a cloth rag, either. *It's like wringing out
syrup, i.e., some slow-flowing remainer continues to ooze out after
the watery aspect has been wrung out.

I applied stripper, then opened this new container and discovered this
stuff. *I had to use some of it for this initial stripping of a small
area. *I don't like testing a new (to me) product on someone's
furniture, this way.

I'm considering bringing it back and get the labeled "paint thinner",
which is clear, for rinsing my stripper.

Comments? *Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny

"Sonny" wrote in message
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Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny


Typically "Thinner" is Mineral Spirits with a manufacturer's additives to
make the thinner work better as a "thinner". Slower to evaporate and so on.
IMHO your mineral spirates have either been compromised or was mislabled at
the manufacturer. I would simply take it back and get another can. I do
not like using thinner over mineral spirits for cleaning.

Didn't look right to me, either, as compared to what I'm familiar
with. Whatever it is, it left a layered residue on the wood and it
took a bit, not much, of sanding to remove it. Wiped the area with
acetone and I think it's ok. It will be returned. Thanks All.
Sonny

Sonny wrote in news:0b757568-6107-4670-951c-
:

Didn't look right to me, either, as compared to what I'm familiar
with. Whatever it is, it left a layered residue on the wood and it
took a bit, not much, of sanding to remove it. Wiped the area with
acetone and I think it's ok. It will be returned. Thanks All.
Sonny

I was just going to suggest you return it. I also bought mineral spirings
from Walmart a short time ago and it's clear. It's just as effective as
the old stuff that recently was used up.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Sonny wrote:
Didn't look right to me, either, as compared to what I'm familiar
with. Whatever it is, it left a layered residue on the wood and it
took a bit, not much, of sanding to remove it. Wiped the area with
acetone and I think it's ok. It will be returned. Thanks All.
Sonny

As I expected, in all likelihood you didn't pay enough attention to the
label when you purchased the product; it would appear from the MSDS you
got the "green" version which is hydrotreated petroleum distallate.

The MSDS physical description section includes the following --

Appearance and Odor
Opaque, milky white, thin emulsion with a light petroleum distillate odor.

Following is the link at the Rockler product site to see the MSDS
itself: http://www.rockler.com/tech/RTD20000425AA.pdf

Moral of story--don't complain of a defective product until know one
actually has the product one thinks one has...

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"dpb" wrote in message
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Sonny wrote:
Didn't look right to me, either, as compared to what I'm familiar
with. Whatever it is, it left a layered residue on the wood and it
took a bit, not much, of sanding to remove it. Wiped the area with
acetone and I think it's ok. It will be returned. Thanks All.
Sonny

As I expected, in all likelihood you didn't pay enough attention to the
label when you purchased the product; it would appear from the MSDS you
got the "green" version which is hydrotreated petroleum distallate.

What you are refering to is a substitute sold by Rockler.
Assuming the product he bought at "WalMart" was the same product as usual, I
would suspect that he got a mislabled product. This is what he was after.
http://www.wmbarr.com/ProductFiles/K... 011-13-08.pdf

Having been in a business that buys products that are packaged differently
for different brand stores I saw this happen time and again.

I have the same KleenStrip Oderless mineral spirits and it is as clear as
water. What you are refering to is something that is made for Rockler and
probably not normally available at Wal Mart.


Moral of story, make sure you are comparing apples to apples.









The MSDS physical description section includes the following --

Appearance and Odor
Opaque, milky white, thin emulsion with a light petroleum distillate
odor.

Following is the link at the Rockler product site to see the MSDS itself:
http://www.rockler.com/tech/RTD20000425AA.pdf

Moral of story--don't complain of a defective product until know one
actually has the product one thinks one has...

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Leon wrote:
....

I have the same KleenStrip Oderless mineral spirits and it is as clear as
water. What you are refering to is something that is made for Rockler and
probably not normally available at Wal Mart.

I've no clue where he bought it (and I'm not going back to see if it
says in his original posting) but it is most definitely _NOT_ a
Rockler-only KleanStrip product (or it wouldn't be labelled and the MSDS
wouldn't be for WM Barr, it would be for Rockler-branded product.

I simply posted the link via Rockler as it was quicker-loading than the
MW Barr site that has all their products in a larger pdf download format...

Just for grins, here's the product link accessible thru the "Brands"
link from the MW Barr site...

http://www.kleanstripgreen.com/

click on "Thinners & Solvents"



Moral of story, make sure you are comparing apples to apples.

Well, that was Sonny's problem from the git-go--he got an orange when he
wanted an apple.

There's nothing wrong w/ the product in his container, it just isn't the
product he thought he was getting.

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"Sonny" wrote in message
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Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.
snip
Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny


Is the "odorless" feature responsible for the product appearance/ function?
Rod

"Rod & BJ Jacobson" wrote in message
acquisition...

"Sonny" wrote in message
...
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Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.
snip
Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny


Is the "odorless" feature responsible for the product appearance/
function? Rod


Not with the odorless versions I have used.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:02:52 -0700, the infamous "Rod & BJ Jacobson"
scrawled the following:


"Sonny" wrote in message
...
snip
Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.
snip
Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny


Is the "odorless" feature responsible for the product appearance/ function?

In all other brands, it is not. They're clear. I think he got some
used stuff. Maybe an employee couldn't make it to the restroom and...

--
Challenges are gifts that force us to search for a new center of gravity.
Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
-- Oprah Winfrey

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote:

Went to Wal-Mart to get mineral spirits (clear, like water), which
I've done before. The spirits I purchased today was milky and it was
not as watery as previous purchases.... same container as previous
purchases. The lid was still sealed I strained it through a paper
towel and collected a bit of a cream-like residue on the towel. The
stained part was still milky in color and still not as watery as
previous products.

Is this some sort of new mineral spirits? .... Klean Strip odorless
brand.

Rinsing some paint stripper with this stained milky stuff didn't seem
to be as effective as with my previous clear spirits purchases. It
doesn't wring dry from a cloth rag, either. It's like wringing out
syrup, i.e., some slow-flowing remainer continues to ooze out after
the watery aspect has been wrung out.

I applied stripper, then opened this new container and discovered this
stuff. I had to use some of it for this initial stripping of a small
area. I don't like testing a new (to me) product on someone's
furniture, this way.

I'm considering bringing it back and get the labeled "paint thinner",
which is clear, for rinsing my stripper.

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits?
Sonny


Mineral spirits is a clear liquid, not milky.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:20:27 -0400, Phisherman wrote:

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits? Sonny


Mineral spirits is a clear liquid, not milky.

Agreed. Sonny, you've got a bad product - take it back. If you can find
it, get turpentine instead unless the odor is a problem. It's a natural
renewable resource unlike petroleum based mineral oil. And I think it
works better, although that's a very subjective thing.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:20:27 -0400, Phisherman wrote:

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits? Sonny

Mineral spirits is a clear liquid, not milky.

Agreed. Sonny, you've got a bad product - take it back. ...

No, it is _NOT_ a bad product, it just isn't the product he thinks it
is/thought he was buying.

See other post linking to MSDS for the "green" mineral spirits product...

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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:20:27 -0400, Phisherman wrote:

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits? Sonny


Mineral spirits is a clear liquid, not milky.

Agreed. Sonny, you've got a bad product - take it back. If you can find
it, get turpentine instead unless the odor is a problem. It's a natural
renewable resource unlike petroleum based mineral oil. And I think it
works better, although that's a very subjective thing.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

I prefer mineralspirits for clean up over thinner because it dries faster.
How fast would you say turpentine is compared to mineral spirits? I might
wat to switch again for clean up.

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:17:22 -0500, Leon wrote:

I prefer mineralspirits for clean up over thinner because it dries
faster. How fast would you say turpentine is compared to mineral
spirits? I might wat to switch again for clean up.

I think you're right on the drying time. I mostly use turpentine for
thinning and to hang my brushes in. I also agree with Lew's response
that it just plain smells better - my age is showing :-).

As "EXT" says, it is more expensive. I wouldn't use it for cleanup if I
did that a lot. But for a hobbyist like me and the uses I have for it,
I'm willing to pay a bit more for a renewable resource.

And it must be less toxic - I remember CreoTurpin cough syrup :-).

Re above - it's a joke,son. Turpentine will kill you if you drink very
much of it.

--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:55:06 +0000 (UTC), the infamous Larry Blanchard
scrawled the following:

On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:17:22 -0500, Leon wrote:

I prefer mineralspirits for clean up over thinner because it dries
faster. How fast would you say turpentine is compared to mineral
spirits? I might wat to switch again for clean up.

I think you're right on the drying time. I mostly use turpentine for
thinning and to hang my brushes in. I also agree with Lew's response
that it just plain smells better - my age is showing :-).

As "EXT" says, it is more expensive. I wouldn't use it for cleanup if I
did that a lot. But for a hobbyist like me and the uses I have for it,
I'm willing to pay a bit more for a renewable resource.

And it must be less toxic - I remember CreoTurpin cough syrup :-).

Re above - it's a joke,son. Turpentine will kill you if you drink very
much of it.

Yeah, they gave CreoTurpin to really BAD kids. Slowed 'em right down.
(I'll have to remember that name.

--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:20:27 -0400, Phisherman wrote:

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits? Sonny


Mineral spirits is a clear liquid, not milky.

Agreed. Sonny, you've got a bad product - take it back. If you can find
it, get turpentine instead unless the odor is a problem. It's a natural
renewable resource unlike petroleum based mineral oil. And I think it
works better, although that's a very subjective thing.

Turps is great, but who can afford it. It about 10 times the price of
mineral spirits in this area.

"EXT" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:20:27 -0400, Phisherman wrote:

Comments? Anyone know if this is legitimate spirits? Sonny


Mineral spirits is a clear liquid, not milky.

Agreed. Sonny, you've got a bad product - take it back. If you can find
it, get turpentine instead unless the odor is a problem. It's a natural
renewable resource unlike petroleum based mineral oil. And I think it
works better, although that's a very subjective thing.

Turps is great, but who can afford it. It about 10 times the price of
mineral spirits in this area.

Well that settle that!