Subject: Rumsfeld vs Kennedy
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:48:39 +0000


You will only understand the symbolism of the following if you learned

through extraneous history or were old enough to have watched it play
out
that Ted Kennedy drove off of a bridge in Massachusetts on his way to
an
island with Mary Joe Kopechne in the late 60's. He did NOT seek help
to
rescue her when he surfaced. Instead he made his way to a hotel,
called
friends and the next morning reported the accident. She was, needless
to
say, both dead and wet. Kennedy faced no type of any censure or
reprimand,
much less any legal punishment for this negligent act of manslaughter.

Kennedy power extends wide in that part of America. You have got to
love
the chutzpah of Rumsfeld.

February 05, 2004

Rumsfeld: Kennedy 'All Wet' About Bush Lies

(2004-02-05) -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Sen. Edward M.
Kennedy yesterday that he was "all wet" when the Senator alleged that
the
Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction to
justify
going to war.

The verbal clash came during Mr. Rumsfeld's testimony at a Senate
Armed
Services Committee hearing probing the state of pre-war intelligence.

Sen. Kennedy began his questioning of the Defense Secretary by saying,

"Don't you think some members of the Bush administration should be
held
legally accountable for the lies they told about Iraqi weapons, and
the
subsequent cover-up?"

"First, with all due respect Senator Kennedy, you're all wet," said
Mr.
Rumsfeld "The administration has not lied or covered up. However, in
general, I do believe that when a man commits a crime he should face
the
bar
of justice. He should not be allowed to serve in positions of power in
our
government, and be hailed as a leader, when the question of his guilt
remains unresolved, if you know what I mean."

"I'm sure I do not know what you mean," Mr. Kennedy said. "But the
American
people deserve to know why you can't find Saddam's weapons of mass
destruction."

"Sometimes things are hard to find, even when you know where they
are,"
said
Mr. Rumsfeld. "For example, I've heard of a man who missed a bridge
and
drove his car into the water, even though he knew where the bridge
was.
And
then sometimes you just keep diving into a problem and despite
repeated
efforts, you come up empty handed. That doesn't mean that nothing's
there.
As you know, eventually, the truth comes to light."

Having no further questions, Mr. Kennedy yielded the remainder of his
time.


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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:26:51 GMT, "___ Bob ___"
wrote:

[republican propaganda (I think that's redundant) snipped]

I'm sure all the Kennedy hating conservatives wish that had happened,
but it didn't.

http://www.snopes.com

search on rumsfeld.


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This all sounds nice, but if you check on snopes.com you'll find that the incident is
fictional. Those are not Rumsfeld's words.

"___ Bob ___" wrote in message ...
Subject: Rumsfeld vs Kennedy
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:48:39 +0000


You will only understand the symbolism of the following if you learned

through extraneous history or were old enough to have watched it play
out
that Ted Kennedy drove off of a bridge in Massachusetts on his way to
an
island with Mary Joe Kopechne in the late 60's. He did NOT seek help
to
rescue her when he surfaced. Instead he made his way to a hotel,
called
friends and the next morning reported the accident. She was, needless
to
say, both dead and wet. Kennedy faced no type of any censure or
reprimand,
much less any legal punishment for this negligent act of manslaughter.

Kennedy power extends wide in that part of America. You have got to
love
the chutzpah of Rumsfeld.

February 05, 2004

Rumsfeld: Kennedy 'All Wet' About Bush Lies

(2004-02-05) -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Sen. Edward M.
Kennedy yesterday that he was "all wet" when the Senator alleged that
the
Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction to
justify
going to war.

The verbal clash came during Mr. Rumsfeld's testimony at a Senate
Armed
Services Committee hearing probing the state of pre-war intelligence.

Sen. Kennedy began his questioning of the Defense Secretary by saying,

"Don't you think some members of the Bush administration should be
held
legally accountable for the lies they told about Iraqi weapons, and
the
subsequent cover-up?"

"First, with all due respect Senator Kennedy, you're all wet," said
Mr.
Rumsfeld "The administration has not lied or covered up. However, in
general, I do believe that when a man commits a crime he should face
the
bar
of justice. He should not be allowed to serve in positions of power in
our
government, and be hailed as a leader, when the question of his guilt
remains unresolved, if you know what I mean."

"I'm sure I do not know what you mean," Mr. Kennedy said. "But the
American
people deserve to know why you can't find Saddam's weapons of mass
destruction."

"Sometimes things are hard to find, even when you know where they
are,"
said
Mr. Rumsfeld. "For example, I've heard of a man who missed a bridge
and
drove his car into the water, even though he knew where the bridge
was.
And
then sometimes you just keep diving into a problem and despite
repeated
efforts, you come up empty handed. That doesn't mean that nothing's
there.
As you know, eventually, the truth comes to light."

Having no further questions, Mr. Kennedy yielded the remainder of his
time.


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"LRod" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:26:51 GMT, "___ Bob ___"
wrote:

[republican propaganda (I think that's redundant) snipped]

I'm sure all the Kennedy hating conservatives wish that had happened,
but it didn't.

http://www.snopes.com

search on rumsfeld.

Damn, that would be funny if it was true. I have an idea that Rummy just
might say something like that. Say what you want about him, but he can be a
pretty funny guy.

todd

Rumsfeld would be a great president. He's the best master of the bully pulpit since Teddy
Roosevelt and his instincts and principles are sound. The guy has great integrity.

This all sounds nice, but if you check on snopes.com you'll find that the incident is
fictional. Those are not Rumsfeld's words.

May or may not be true about Rumsfeld .. .. but it sure as hell is absolutely true about
Kennedy .. .. ..


He killed a girl .. .. never even tried to save her .. .. didn't report it to authorities till
the next day (maybe to sober up a bit ??) .. .. lied his butt off about the circumstances ..
... and to this day he has never had to answer to anyone about his actions .. .. ..and he has
the gall to claim George Bush MISLEAD him ?? ?? ??

Gimme a break !! !! !!
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__ Bob __

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:16 GMT, "___ Bob ___"
wrote:

May or may not be true about Rumsfeld .. .. but it sure as hell is absolutely true about
Kennedy .. .. ..


He killed a girl .. .. never even tried to save her .. .. didn't report it to authorities till
the next day (maybe to sober up a bit ??) .. .. lied his butt off about the circumstances ..
.. and to this day he has never had to answer to anyone about his actions .. .. ..and he has
the gall to claim George Bush MISLEAD him ?? ?? ??

I can see where you have trouble with the term "misled" (aside from
the obvious spelling difficulties).

The girl was in his car. True.
He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?
He didn't report it until the next day. Apparently true.
Lied about the circumstances? Do you know the truth? No one else seems
to, and no one seems to believe Ted, so who's to say?
Answer to anyone for what? Bad judgement for not reporting it earlier?
Failure to save someone's life?

You state your proposition as if he murdered the girl. I know the
republicans have wanted to pilory him as if that were true ever since,
but being in the same place as someone who died doesn't make you a
killer.

Gimme a break !! !! !!

Really.

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 21:51:41 +0000, LRod wrote:


Gimme a break !! !! !!

Really.

But you gotta admit it was an interesting news clip a week or two ago when
Teddy was giving kudos to John F Kerry for saving one of his men from
drowning in Viet Nam...

The only thing I could think of at the time was "John, John, John - anyone
except Teddy".

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In article , wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:16 GMT, "___ Bob ___"
wrote:

May or may not be true about Rumsfeld .. .. but it sure as hell is absolutely
true about
Kennedy .. .. ..


He killed a girl .. .. never even tried to save her .. .. didn't report it to
authorities till
the next day (maybe to sober up a bit ??) .. .. lied his butt off about the
circumstances ..
.. and to this day he has never had to answer to anyone about his actions ..
.. ..and he has
the gall to claim George Bush MISLEAD him ?? ?? ??

I can see where you have trouble with the term "misled" (aside from
the obvious spelling difficulties).

The girl was in his car. True.
He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?
He didn't report it until the next day. Apparently true.

No "apparently" about it. That's a matter of record. It's *definitely* true.

Lied about the circumstances? Do you know the truth? No one else seems
to, and no one seems to believe Ted, so who's to say?

His story changed a couple of times during the first few days after the
incident, which makes it pretty difficult to maintain that he told the truth.

Answer to anyone for what? Bad judgement for not reporting it earlier?

He drove into the water because he was too damned drunk to find the bridge.

Failure to save someone's life?

No, having endangered it in the first place by his irresponsibility in driving
drunk.

You state your proposition as if he murdered the girl.

As far as I'm concerned, killing a person while driving drunk is but very
little different from deliberate murder. It's negligent homicide at the least.

I know the
republicans have wanted to pilory him as if that were true ever since,
but being in the same place as someone who died doesn't make you a
killer.

No, but killing someone in a traffic accident that you caused while driving
drunk *does*.

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"LRod" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:16 GMT, "___ Bob ___"

The girl was in his car. True.

Her name was Mary Jo Kopecknec (sp?)

He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?

All evidence published at the time showed there were no rescue attempts!

He didn't report it until the next day. Apparently true.

Not apparently true. True! Check the offical reports.

Lied about the circumstances? Do you know the truth? No one else seems
to, and no one seems to believe Ted, so who's to say?

Kennedy's story did not match the reported facts.

Answer to anyone for what? Bad judgement for not reporting it earlier?
Failure to save someone's life?

Causing the death of a person while drunk is manslaughter at the least.
Both Kennedy, the driver, and Mary Jo the passenger were determined to be
drunk at the time of the accident. Mary Jo's condition was determined by
autopsy. Kennedy's condition was determined by reports of participants of
the party. Kennedy has a reputation as a very heavy drinker for many years.
Isn't his drinking and his extra-marital affairs the reason his wife
divorced.


You state your proposition as if he murdered the girl. I know the
republicans have wanted to pilory him as if that were true ever since,
but being in the same place as someone who died doesn't make you a
killer.

The scandal at the time was clearly NOT a Republican/Democrat issue. It was
a scandel because Kennedy did more than just be in the same place as someone
who died! He was driving drunk when he ran the car into the water. Mary Jo
K. was a passenger. Only the family name and a hefty payment to Mary Jo's
family kept the incident from the courts. Kennedy should be piloried
because of his abuse of wealth, position and family influence. The Kennedys
run Massachusetts.


Gimme a break !! !! !!

Really.

Really, No! Reality Yes!


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In article , says...

"LRod" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:16 GMT, "___ Bob ___"

The girl was in his car. True.

Her name was Mary Jo Kopecknec (sp?)

He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?

All evidence published at the time showed there were no rescue attempts!

.... snip

Causing the death of a person while drunk is manslaughter at the least.
Both Kennedy, the driver, and Mary Jo the passenger were determined to be
drunk at the time of the accident. Mary Jo's condition was determined by
autopsy. Kennedy's condition was determined by reports of participants of
the party. Kennedy has a reputation as a very heavy drinker for many years.
Isn't his drinking and his extra-marital affairs the reason his wife
divorced.

.... snip
The scandal at the time was clearly NOT a Republican/Democrat issue. It was
a scandel because Kennedy did more than just be in the same place as someone
who died! He was driving drunk when he ran the car into the water. Mary Jo
K. was a passenger. Only the family name and a hefty payment to Mary Jo's
family kept the incident from the courts. Kennedy should be piloried
because of his abuse of wealth, position and family influence. The Kennedys
run Massachusetts.


Funny how there seems to be a double standard, killing someone when
you are driving drunk, if you are a Kennedy gets you re-elected and all
sorts of people excusing the behavior and saying "you don't have all the
facts". Committing perjury (lying under oath) if you are the Democratic
president gets you a host of apologists and news anchors excusing your
behavior because "everybody lies about sex". Launching cruise missiles
into an aspirin factory based

But, not being able to have incontrovertable evidence of being on base
with a host of witnesses while in the National Guard makes you a
deserter and unfit to serve if you are a Bush. Making a decision based
upon the best intel available (which was significantly degraded after
your predecessor required that anyone recruited for human intelligence
in unfriendly countries have a pristine background), the consequences if
you are wrong the other way being devastating makes you a warmonger and
only in it for the oil if you are the Republican president.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:27:27 -0500, "John Flatley"
wrote:

Kennedy should be piloried because of his abuse of wealth,
position and family influence. The Kennedys
run Massachusetts.

Not quite true that they "run" the state," but they have been known to
influence events. A small, but I think, telling story.

I live on Cape Cod in Massachusetts only a few miles (and several
gazillion dollars) from the infamous Kennedy compound in Hyannisport.
A couple of years ago, and years after John Jr.'s fatal plane crash, I
was in one of the big chain bookstores and saw a table set up with
various books on John Jr - not a discount table. Since I have never
been shy about expressing my opinion, I said to one of the people
behind the desk, "Gee, isn't it about time that you replace the John
Jr. Kennedy exhibit?"

The assistant manager said, "We tried to replace it a few months ago,
but Mrs Kennedy (Ethel, I think) complained to corporate management
and we were directed to maintain the display."




Cape Cod Bob
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In article ,
says...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:27:27 -0500, "John Flatley"
wrote:

Kennedy should be piloried because of his abuse of wealth,
position and family influence. The Kennedys
run Massachusetts.

Not quite true that they "run" the state," but they have been known to
influence events. A small, but I think, telling story.

I live on Cape Cod in Massachusetts only a few miles (and several
gazillion dollars) from the infamous Kennedy compound in Hyannisport.
A couple of years ago, and years after John Jr.'s fatal plane crash, I
was in one of the big chain bookstores and saw a table set up with
various books on John Jr - not a discount table. Since I have never
been shy about expressing my opinion, I said to one of the people
behind the desk, "Gee, isn't it about time that you replace the John
Jr. Kennedy exhibit?"

The assistant manager said, "We tried to replace it a few months ago,
but Mrs Kennedy (Ethel, I think) complained to corporate management
and we were directed to maintain the display."



CCB,

I've always been curious, why do ya'll keep re-electing him?

Might I suggest following the below link, it offers the best chronology of
the event that I have found.

http://www.ytedk.com/intro.htm

Glen


"LRod" wrote

The girl was in his car. True.
He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?
He didn't report it until the next day. Apparently true.
Lied about the circumstances? Do you know the truth? No one else seems
to, and no one seems to believe Ted, so who's to say?
Answer to anyone for what? Bad judgement for not reporting it earlier?
Failure to save someone's life?

You state your proposition as if he murdered the girl. I know the
republicans have wanted to pilory him as if that were true ever since,
but being in the same place as someone who died doesn't make you a
killer.

Gimme a break !! !! !!

In article m,
Mark & Juanita wrote:

In article , says...

"LRod" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:16 GMT, "___ Bob ___"

The girl was in his car. True.

Her name was Mary Jo Kopecknec (sp?)

He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?

All evidence published at the time showed there were no rescue attempts!

... snip

Causing the death of a person while drunk is manslaughter at the least.
Both Kennedy, the driver, and Mary Jo the passenger were determined to be
drunk at the time of the accident. Mary Jo's condition was determined by
autopsy. Kennedy's condition was determined by reports of participants of
the party. Kennedy has a reputation as a very heavy drinker for many years.
Isn't his drinking and his extra-marital affairs the reason his wife
divorced.

... snip
The scandal at the time was clearly NOT a Republican/Democrat issue. It was
a scandel because Kennedy did more than just be in the same place as someone
who died! He was driving drunk when he ran the car into the water. Mary Jo
K. was a passenger. Only the family name and a hefty payment to Mary Jo's
family kept the incident from the courts. Kennedy should be piloried
because of his abuse of wealth, position and family influence. The Kennedys
run Massachusetts.


Funny how there seems to be a double standard, killing someone when
you are driving drunk, if you are a Kennedy gets you re-elected and all
sorts of people excusing the behavior and saying "you don't have all the
facts". Committing perjury (lying under oath) if you are the Democratic
president gets you a host of apologists and news anchors excusing your
behavior because "everybody lies about sex". Launching cruise missiles
into an aspirin factory based

But, not being able to have incontrovertable evidence of being on base
with a host of witnesses while in the National Guard makes you a
deserter and unfit to serve if you are a Bush. Making a decision based
upon the best intel available (which was significantly degraded after
your predecessor required that anyone recruited for human intelligence
in unfriendly countries have a pristine background), the consequences if
you are wrong the other way being devastating makes you a warmonger and
only in it for the oil if you are the Republican president.



There were three witnesses to the explosion that downed JFK Jr's plane.
$20MM salvage in 100' of water and everything pulled up BUT THE ENTIRE
TAIL was never found.

His father, the President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of
the Armed Forces was assassinated by the George H.W. Bush Knight of
Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA after he ordered us out of Rome's fiefdom
of Vietnam and 58,000 American G.I.s died. What's the count in Iraq? 600?

Sure the Anti-Christ is not monolithic: Bush has given us the 9-11/Gulf
of Tonkin Hoax redux, and the Mob/unions are now supporting Kerry, but
let's give the Kennedys a break until justice is done for JFK and JFKJr.

Please God save America, we patriots pray.
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"Wm Jones" wrote
There were three witnesses to the explosion that downed JFK Jr's plane.
$20MM salvage in 100' of water and everything pulled up BUT THE ENTIRE
TAIL was never found.

His father, the President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of
the Armed Forces was assassinated by the George H.W. Bush Knight of
Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA after he ordered us out of Rome's fiefdom
of Vietnam and 58,000 American G.I.s died. What's the count in Iraq? 600?

Sure the Anti-Christ is not monolithic: Bush has given us the 9-11/Gulf
of Tonkin Hoax redux, and the Mob/unions are now supporting Kerry, but
let's give the Kennedys a break until justice is done for JFK and JFKJr.

Please God save America, we patriots pray.
--

In article ,
says...
In article m,
Mark & Juanita wrote:

In article , says...

"LRod" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:11:16 GMT, "___ Bob ___"

The girl was in his car. True.

Her name was Mary Jo Kopecknec (sp?)

He may or may not have tried to save her; I don't know, I wasn't
there. Were you?

All evidence published at the time showed there were no rescue attempts!

... snip

Causing the death of a person while drunk is manslaughter at the least.
Both Kennedy, the driver, and Mary Jo the passenger were determined to be
drunk at the time of the accident. Mary Jo's condition was determined by
autopsy. Kennedy's condition was determined by reports of participants of
the party. Kennedy has a reputation as a very heavy drinker for many years.
Isn't his drinking and his extra-marital affairs the reason his wife
divorced.

... snip
The scandal at the time was clearly NOT a Republican/Democrat issue. It was
a scandel because Kennedy did more than just be in the same place as someone
who died! He was driving drunk when he ran the car into the water. Mary Jo
K. was a passenger. Only the family name and a hefty payment to Mary Jo's
family kept the incident from the courts. Kennedy should be piloried
because of his abuse of wealth, position and family influence. The Kennedys
run Massachusetts.


Funny how there seems to be a double standard, killing someone when
you are driving drunk, if you are a Kennedy gets you re-elected and all
sorts of people excusing the behavior and saying "you don't have all the
facts". Committing perjury (lying under oath) if you are the Democratic
president gets you a host of apologists and news anchors excusing your
behavior because "everybody lies about sex". Launching cruise missiles
into an aspirin factory based

But, not being able to have incontrovertable evidence of being on base
with a host of witnesses while in the National Guard makes you a
deserter and unfit to serve if you are a Bush. Making a decision based
upon the best intel available (which was significantly degraded after
your predecessor required that anyone recruited for human intelligence
in unfriendly countries have a pristine background), the consequences if
you are wrong the other way being devastating makes you a warmonger and
only in it for the oil if you are the Republican president.



There were three witnesses to the explosion that downed JFK Jr's plane.
$20MM salvage in 100' of water and everything pulled up BUT THE ENTIRE
TAIL was never found.

His father, the President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of
the Armed Forces was assassinated by the George H.W. Bush Knight of
Malta-led Roman Catholic CIA after he ordered us out of Rome's fiefdom
of Vietnam and 58,000 American G.I.s died. What's the count in Iraq? 600?

Sure the Anti-Christ is not monolithic: Bush has given us the 9-11/Gulf
of Tonkin Hoax redux, and the Mob/unions are now supporting Kerry, but
let's give the Kennedys a break until justice is done for JFK and JFKJr.

Please God save America, we patriots pray.


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Wm Jones rambled:
snip of delusional fears

I apologize to Al for ever suggesting that this loon was like
him. Go take your medication.

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Wm Jones rambled:
snip of delusional fears

I apologize to Al for ever suggesting that this loon was like
him. Go take your medication.

I particularly enjoyed the part about JFK being killed because he tried to get
us *out* of Viet Nam. This cuckoo has obviously forgotten that it was JFK who
got us *in* to Viet Nam.

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Doug Miller wrote:
I particularly enjoyed the part about JFK being killed because he tried to get
us *out* of Viet Nam. This cuckoo has obviously forgotten that it was JFK who
got us *in* to Viet Nam.

Ya know, I wonder if he's a hanger on from that last barrage of
troll trash we got. They invited everybody in to join their party
here, maybe he's just been lurking. For that matter it could
still be going on, I haven't checked the filters. And thank you
very much for that, BTW.

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Doug Miller wrote:
I particularly enjoyed the part about JFK being killed because he tried to
get
us *out* of Viet Nam. This cuckoo has obviously forgotten that it was JFK who
got us *in* to Viet Nam.

Ya know, I wonder if he's a hanger on from that last barrage of
troll trash we got. They invited everybody in to join their party
here, maybe he's just been lurking. For that matter it could
still be going on, I haven't checked the filters. And thank you
very much for that, BTW.

You're welcome. Haven't seen much dropped lately except a *very* large number
of posts with "Bush" in the subject.

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Doug Miller wrote:
You're welcome. Haven't seen much dropped lately except a *very* large number
of posts with "Bush" in the subject.

I, very rarely, see one from dizum or sneakmail, it's erratic.
Curious. I put it down to using a windoze machine.

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