Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:

The sole place where the right is demonstrably superior is in its view of
national defense - i.e. It actually wants to defend the nation, whereas
the left wants to wring its hands and figure out why every problem is our
own fault.

I don't agree. The right, besides national defense, believes strongly
in personal property rights, capitalism, individual control of the means
of production rather than government control, the constitution and the
bill of rights (freedom of speech, religion, the press, right to bear
arms and so on).

Ideally, that's the case.

Ideally or not, that's still the case.

In reality, there are portions of the indisputable
"Right" that wish to impose morality and behavior codes by means of
government force.

Well, you don't have to be an anarchist to be on the right.

Not exactly. I am libertarian but at odds with the self-declared "Right"
on things like government definition of marriage, the death penalty,
anti-drug laws, and so on.

To think that everyone on the right is in lock step with each other on
every issue is simply wrong.

And, no, I am not on the right - I am very much in the "Radical
Libertarian"
corner...

The radical libertarian corner is on the right, more to the right than a
conservative perhaps, but very much on the right. The right is for
individual freedom, all the way to the right is anarchy, or, total
individual freedom.

My graduate training was (among other things) in an abstruse area
of theoretical mathematics where the most important thing I learned
was that direction doesn't matter, only your coordinate system

Yes, pretty much my point regarding right left vs top bottom.

There are two kinds of people in the statist/collectivist bag:

1) Those who reflexively cling to the system without any really deep
thought, because it gives them what they want without having
earned it (The Pigs).

2) Those who very explicitly and thoughtfully defend such a system
with full awareness that their good deeds are phony and at the
expense of some citizens (The Monsters).

I've encountered both Pigs and Monsters and they're equally repugnant,
but the Monsters usually gravitate into politics where they get the force
of government on their side - they're usually the more dangerous of the
two therefore.

Well put and hard to argue with.

I hasten to add that there are lots and lots of rightwingers that aren't
all that thoughtful either. Witness the success of Hannity and Co.

I don't listen to Hannity but I have been listening to Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck is the first guy in the history of TV that makes any sense.

I think you have ACORN, the left wing media and the Republican party to
blame more than anything. Besides the fake voting, the American public
was not made very aware that Obama was an anti-American, socialist
*******. They were all too busy watching Law and Order, American Idol

I live less than 20 miles away from his home. The public around here
were VERY aware of his vile tendencies and voted in huge amounts FOR
him (long live the pigs). Had the traditionally Republican base in the
state had any real choice besides another statist, they would have
voted otherwise. Because of all the Chicago political fraud, IL is
destined to be a Blue state forever, but the Rs would have at least
registered some small complaint.

I think it will be difficult for the right to register much of a
complaint for 2 reasons. The left already has control of the mainstream
media and educational system and I think they have control of the voter
box. Not the voter, the voter box. I suspect the reason ACORN has
people register to vote 72 times is simply to prevent more votes showing
up than there are people to vote... It almost gets embarrassing when
125% of the registered voters vote... Personally, I think it's too
late, but the first thing needed in this country is a way to insure each
living citizen can vote just once, and that the vote actually goes to
the one to whom you voted.

It is certainly true that that the fraud and deceit practiced by ACORN
and similar groups helped Dear Leader, but I think his election was
fait accompli once we had both a big-government Republican in office
for 8 years and a really pathetic candidate running to replace him.

Give me control of the propaganda machine, and the voter box, and I
could elect David Dukes, Rev. Wright, Chavez, or even Obama.

Combine that with that fact that most Americans really don't care how
their neighbors have sex or what drugs they take and the Republicans
just looked worse, and worse, and worse.

Republicans look bad because they ARE bad. Just like Communists,
Socialists, Nazi's, and Democrats, they are for bigger and bigger
government, government control instead of individual control. Because of
this, we basically have a one party system, the socialist party.

I'll be happy when Robocop needs a heart valve and comes to the USSA and
is told he has to wait 6 months, just like he does at home.

I won't. I'd rather be free and have the collectivists from other countries
be able to come here and witness the difference.

That would make me happy too, but since it is not likely to stay this
way for long, I might as well enjoy watching the freaking Canucks and
Italians twist in the breeze, waiting for decent medical care...

Liberty needs both champions AND examples. With the apparent demise of American liberty,
there will be no true individualist democracies left on the planet, and that
is tragic not just for us, but for the entire planet ... there is great
darkness ahead ...

There is a silver lining in every cloud. Mine will be watching Robocops
head explode waiting for his MRI, or balloon angioplasty or some other
procedure the government can't provide him in time.... The bad side
will be my kids will have to suffer Gestapo road blocks to see if they
had a beer, smoking, are carrying donuts or red meat and so on.

--
Jack
Got Change: General Motors ==== Government Motors!
http://jbstein.com