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I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the
pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Not just "everybody survived" but so far it looks like only one seriously injured. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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J. Clarke wrote:
Lee Michaels wrote: I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Not just "everybody survived" but so far it looks like only one seriously injured. No matter what that pilot gets paid, he deserves a raise. -- See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad! To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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I saw it - I saw the ferry there but where was homeland defense ???
Zodiac boats ?? Machine guns ?? was this a threat or was it revenge ? Where was the 'home guard' ? I see the latest - post rescue some showed up - but really..... Martin Lee Michaels wrote: I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! |
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:41:24 -0500, J. Clarke cast forth these pearls of
wisdom...: Lee Michaels wrote: I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Not just "everybody survived" but so far it looks like only one seriously injured. -- And even at that - it depends on how you define "seriously". It would be easy to consider a broken bone to be less than serious - especially under the circumstances. -- -Mike- |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Equally impressive was the instant response of boats on the water to get to the plane to rescue the passengers. -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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"Mark & Juanita" wrote Lee Michaels wrote: I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Equally impressive was the instant response of boats on the water to get to the plane to rescue the passengers. I liked that. First all the commercial craft shows up. Then the gubmint boats show up later. Just goes to show that in an emergency, whoever is closest is the first responder. And can perform valuable services to the victims. You have to admit, in case of a water landing, you couldn't get much better emergency services than on the Hudson river. It is well serviced by numerous agencies with impressive training, watercraft, helicopters, etc. I get a kick out of those pictures of the people standing on the wing. They look like they are standing on the water. A little bit of walk on water magic there. But it looked awfully cold out there. I wouldn't want to be standing around in that water, in that weather, for very long. |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message I get a kick out of those pictures of the people standing on the wing. They look like they are standing on the water. A little bit of walk on water magic there. But it looked awfully cold out there. I wouldn't want to be standing around in that water, in that weather, for very long. The reason they had to wait is they did not have the exact change to get on to the rescue ferry. I did hear on the news that the ferry crews train for water rescue. It was a good idea. |
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: "Lee Michaels" wrote in message I get a kick out of those pictures of the people standing on the wing. They look like they are standing on the water. A little bit of walk on water magic there. But it looked awfully cold out there. I wouldn't want to be standing around in that water, in that weather, for very long. The reason they had to wait is they did not have the exact change to get on to the rescue ferry. I did hear on the news that the ferry crews train for water rescue. It was a good idea. The plane landed fairly close to the ferry terminals on either side of the Hudson, and I heard the chief of the NY Waterways company (private entity) explain how much they train for emergency work. My hat off and a salute to those guys! The air was 30F or less, the water 41F. There was not too much of a breeze yesterday. All in all the conditions could very easily have been much worse. However, Captain Sully did an absolutely marvelous job putting the plane there so gently. Next time I fly, I hope he, or someone equally capable is at the controls. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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Lee Michaels wrote:
I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! I'm impressed! It was an amazing demonstration of of piloting skill, experience, and judgment all coming together to produce the best of outcomes from a very difficult situation. Cudos to the entire flight crew - they exercised courage and kept their cool when that was of paramount importance, and (it would appear) did a magnificent job of helping the passengers keep theirs. Cudos, also, to the ferry captains (and their crews!) for their quick response - and to the ferry management that made the decision to have their crews train for this eventuality. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Every time I hear the safety speech about "in the event of a water landing... blah blah blah" I think to my self, "yeah, 'in the event', kiss your butt goodbye". I guess I was selling the professionals short. Never again. jc |
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On Jan 16, 9:29*am, "Joe" wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... I know that everyone is using the word miracle. *But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. *Way to go Sully! Every time I hear the safety speech about "in the event of a water landing... blah blah blah" I think to my self, "yeah, 'in the event', kiss your butt goodbye". *I guess I was selling the professionals short. *Never again. jc Next time the flight attendant does her demo, I promise I will listen to her and pay attention...instead of looking at her tits. |
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"Joe" wrote in message .. . "Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Every time I hear the safety speech about "in the event of a water landing... blah blah blah" I think to my self, "yeah, 'in the event', kiss your butt goodbye". I guess I was selling the professionals short. Never again. Apparently a lot of pilots felt the same way. This incident has changed some minds. They now know it is possible. Still, a lot of luck played into this. The location, time of day, etc But that does not in any way discount what a tremendous job was done by the pilot. |
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Robatoy wrote:
Next time the flight attendant does her demo, I promise I will listen to her and pay attention...instead of looking at her tits. Even if she's a Swedish blond? -- Free bad advice available here. To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Jan 16, 9:29 am, "Joe" wrote: Next time the flight attendant does her demo, I promise I will listen to her and pay attention...instead of looking at her tits. You could do both. ;~) |
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Lee Michaels wrote: I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! I'm impressed! It was an amazing demonstration of of piloting skill, experience, and judgment all coming together to produce the best of outcomes from a very difficult situation. Cudos to the entire flight crew - they exercised courage and kept their cool when that was of paramount importance, and (it would appear) did a magnificent job of helping the passengers keep theirs. Cudos, also, to the ferry captains (and their crews!) for their quick response - and to the ferry management that made the decision to have their crews train for this eventuality. Hmm - not only did I manage to mis-spell "Kudos" twice, I took for granted the folks who designed and built the Airbus that didn't lose its structural integrity in the water landing. Methinks they deserve praise, as well. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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"Morris Dovey" wrote Hmm - not only did I manage to mis-spell "Kudos" twice, I took for granted the folks who designed and built the Airbus that didn't lose its structural integrity in the water landing. Methinks they deserve praise, as well. They have a "ditch switch" that seals all openings on the belly of the aircraft. This allows them to stay afloat longer in case of a "water landing". That is some good thinking/engineering. And the Airbus folks were very impressed with the landing as well. They had good things to say about the pilot. |
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"Leon" wrote in message Next time the flight attendant does her demo, I promise I will listen to her and pay attention...instead of looking at her tits. You could do both. ;~) Says Leon wondering if they float. |
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Morris Dovey wrote:
Morris Dovey wrote: Lee Michaels wrote: I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! I'm impressed! It was an amazing demonstration of of piloting skill, experience, and judgment all coming together to produce the best of outcomes from a very difficult situation. Cudos to the entire flight crew - they exercised courage and kept their cool when that was of paramount importance, and (it would appear) did a magnificent job of helping the passengers keep theirs. Cudos, also, to the ferry captains (and their crews!) for their quick response - and to the ferry management that made the decision to have their crews train for this eventuality. Hmm - not only did I manage to mis-spell "Kudos" twice, I took for granted the folks who designed and built the Airbus that didn't lose its structural integrity in the water landing. Methinks they deserve praise, as well. I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? |
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On Jan 16, 9:45*am, "Lee Michaels"
wrote: "Joe" wrote in message .. . "Lee Michaels" wrote in message .. . I know that everyone is using the word miracle. *But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. *Way to go Sully! Every time I hear the safety speech about "in the event of a water landing... blah blah blah" I think to my self, "yeah, 'in the event', kiss your butt goodbye". *I guess I was selling the professionals short. *Never again. Apparently a lot of pilots felt the same way. *This incident has changed some minds. *They now know it is possible. Still, a lot of luck played into this. *The location, time of day, etc *But that does not in any way discount what a tremendous job was done by the pilot. Exactly. He had a limited offering of options, and chose the one that worked. Kept his cool under pressure. A wheelbarrow for his brass balls. |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:47:11 GMT, Han wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in : "Lee Michaels" wrote in message I get a kick out of those pictures of the people standing on the wing. They look like they are standing on the water. A little bit of walk on water magic there. But it looked awfully cold out there. I wouldn't want to be standing around in that water, in that weather, for very long. The reason they had to wait is they did not have the exact change to get on to the rescue ferry. I did hear on the news that the ferry crews train for water rescue. It was a good idea. The plane landed fairly close to the ferry terminals on either side of the Hudson, and I heard the chief of the NY Waterways company (private entity) explain how much they train for emergency work. My hat off and a salute to those guys! The air was 30F or less, the water 41F. There was not too much of a breeze yesterday. All in all the conditions could very easily have been much worse. However, Captain Sully did an absolutely marvelous job putting the plane there so gently. Next time I fly, I hope he, or someone equally capable is at the controls. He's 57 years old. In three years, due to FAA ruling, he'll be retired. What a shame, all that valuable experience offline because he's 60. My dad was a commercial pilot and started in the biz before the FAA came into being...he had a lot of gripes about the agency, but the biggest was the mandatory retirement age. And that was 40-odd years ago. Put yourself in the cabin and answer this: Who do I want flying me around in this death-trap? Great job by all concerned! cg |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:31:41 -0800, Charlie Groh wrote:
He's 57 years old. In three years, due to FAA ruling, he'll be retired. What a shame, all that valuable experience offline because he's 60. Perhaps if some of us mentioned that to our congressman or senator? -- It's turtles, all the way down |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... Exactly. He had a limited offering of options, and chose the one that worked. Kept his cool under pressure. A wheelbarrow for his brass balls. Typical Texas boy. :~) |
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Charlie Groh wrote:
He's 57 years old. In three years, due to FAA ruling, he'll be retired. What a shame, all that valuable experience offline because he's 60. Someone will make him a trainer. Then there's the lecture circuit. But with the book deal and movie rights, he'll never *have* to work another day, the rest of his life. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Jan 16, 9:29 am, "Joe" wrote:
"Lee Michaels" wrote in message ... I know that everyone is using the word miracle. But this Sully guy, the pilot, pulled off a textbook landing of something that nobody gets to practice. He landed a commercial passenger jet on a busy river and everybody survived! That is remarkable feat and the best news I have read in a long time. Way to go Sully! Every time I hear the safety speech about "in the event of a water landing... blah blah blah" I think to my self, "yeah, 'in the event', kiss your butt goodbye". I guess I was selling the professionals short. Never again. jc My friend, as a pilot, I can tell you that "water landing" is just a euphemism for "crash". Hitting the water at airline speeds is like hitting reinforced concrete. Yes, the pilot did a great job. He followed his training. That, coupled with his considerable experience, saved lives. The water temp alone was more than enough to kill everyone aboard. |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:37:53 -0600, Larry Blanchard
wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:31:41 -0800, Charlie Groh wrote: He's 57 years old. In three years, due to FAA ruling, he'll be retired. What a shame, all that valuable experience offline because he's 60. Perhaps if some of us mentioned that to our congressman or senator? ....this would be a GREAT time, eh? cg |
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I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? -- Jack Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org http://jbstein.com |
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On Jan 16, 4:59*pm, Jack Stein wrote:
Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? -- Jack Using FREE News Server:http://Motzarella.orghttp://jbstein.com Well, you're not going to catch turbulance and stay up for 3-4 hours... |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:32 -0500, Jack Stein wrote:
Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? They're not good. Luckily the pilot took his work home with him and flew gliders as well... if anybody could stretch a poor glide into a safe landing, that's who you'd want. What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? |
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On Jan 16, 6:40*pm, PCPaul wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:32 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? They're not good. Luckily the pilot took his work home with him and flew gliders as well... if anybody could stretch a poor glide into a safe landing, that's who you'd want. What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? I wonder what was in that luggage? Diamonds? Drugs? A Bomb? Ooooweeeooooooo |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:32 -0500, Jack Stein
wrote: Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? ....I saw a report by an "expert" last nite; he stated that that particular aircraft had a "one to twenty" glide ratio...that's for every thousand feet of altitude lost, you gain 20,000 (4 miles) on the ground. The caveat unsaid is "...if you have airspeed." But, still, that's pretty dang good. cg |
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om... On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:32 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? They're not good. Luckily the pilot took his work home with him and flew gliders as well... if anybody could stretch a poor glide into a safe landing, that's who you'd want. Ahhh. Shades of the Gimli Glider. Not that it applies in this case, but who do you want on the flight deck, a skilled and experienced glider pilot? or someone who intuitively knows that mass/volume is specific gravity, and that 1.6 is not in the ballpark for JP1? What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? It would suck to be transporting Mom's remains or something like that. I don't really want to make a joke of that person's loss, not knowing what he lost. |
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Robatoy wrote:
On Jan 16, 6:40 pm, PCPaul wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:32 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? They're not good. Luckily the pilot took his work home with him and flew gliders as well... if anybody could stretch a poor glide into a safe landing, that's who you'd want. What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? I wonder what was in that luggage? Diamonds? Drugs? A Bomb? Ooooweeeooooooo lace trimmed skivvies? |
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On Jan 16, 7:18*pm, Charlie Groh wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:59:32 -0500, Jack Stein wrote: Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? ...I saw a report by an "expert" last nite; *he stated that that particular aircraft had a "one to twenty" glide ratio...that's for every thousand feet of altitude lost, you gain 20,000 (4 miles) on the ground. *The caveat unsaid is "...if you have airspeed." But, still, that's pretty dang good. cg The 'glide' converts descent into airspeed.i.e.... the energy from the drop turns into forward motion. |
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"-MIKE-" wrote in message news:gkqk9p$oi6 Someone will make him a trainer. Then there's the lecture circuit. From what I read, he's already doing the training and lecturing for airlines. |
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"Jack Stein" wrote in message ... Doug Winterburn wrote: I thought Airbus jet planes were "fly-by-wire", and since both main engines were out there must have been power from batteries or an APU to operate the control surfaces? I always thought passenger jets could glide w/o engines like a rock? The 747 has a glide ratio of about 17:1. That compares well with gliders that can be 60:1 or the space shuttle on approach that is 4.5:1. The shuttle is the worlds biggest and heaviest glider. |
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They raised the age to 65.
" He's 57 years old. In three years, due to FAA ruling, he'll be retired. What a shame, all that valuable experience offline because he's 60. My dad was a commercial pilot and started in the biz before the FAA came into being...he had a lot of gripes about the agency, but the biggest was the mandatory retirement age. And that was 40-odd years ago. Put yourself in the cabin and answer this: Who do I want flying me around in this death-trap? Great job by all concerned! cg |
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:30:50 -0600, MikeWhy wrote:
"PCPaul" wrote in message What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? It would suck to be transporting Mom's remains or something like that. I don't really want to make a joke of that person's loss, not knowing what he lost. That's true enough - but really it's all about priorities. And the odds are if you linger inside the plane you're either going to drown there, and even if you don't then the chances of ending up in the water when you get out are pretty high too. Apparently there has been an experiment over here (UK) where they wanted to inject some realism into the evacuation time tests they do - instead of just letting the non-paniced student volunteers leave the plane in an orderly fashion and get out in double quick time, they offered a decent prize to the first thirty people to get out. That was much more like a real life evacuation - fighting, climbing over each other etc. etc. Took a lot longer too. Not a good place to be. |
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Off Topic: Amazing Water Landing on the Hudson
On Jan 17, 6:18*am, PCPaul wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:30:50 -0600, MikeWhy wrote: "PCPaul" wrote in message What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? It would suck to be transporting Mom's remains or something like that. I don't really want to make a joke of that person's loss, not knowing what he lost. That's true enough - but really it's all about priorities. And the odds are if you linger inside the plane you're either going to drown there, and even if you don't then the chances of ending up in the water when you get out are pretty high too. Apparently there has been an experiment over here (UK) where they wanted to inject some realism into the evacuation time tests they do - instead of just letting the non-paniced student volunteers leave the plane in an orderly fashion and get out in double quick time, they offered a decent prize to the first thirty people to get out. That was much more like a real life evacuation - fighting, climbing over each other etc. etc. Took a lot longer too. Not a good place to be. Well, if you had to be in a plane crash, this one was the place to be. You had an almost impossibly skilled and calm pilot, a co-pilot with 24 years experience, and excellent flight crew, passengers who in general were sensible and well behaved, and local (canyou REALLY call NYC local?) rescue boats that evidently were teleported to the scene. I know of one other water landing off a NYC airport, and it might have been from Idewild, maybe 40-45 years ago. Everyone died. This time, no one died. A much to be preferred result. Congratulations to all the professionals involved, and many of the volunteers. |
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Off Topic: Amazing Water Landing on the Hudson
"Charlie Self" wrote in message ... On Jan 17, 6:18 am, PCPaul wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:30:50 -0600, MikeWhy wrote: "PCPaul" wrote in message What about the passenger who had to be dragged out as they wouldn't go without their luggage, though? It would suck to be transporting Mom's remains or something like that. I don't really want to make a joke of that person's loss, not knowing what he lost. That's true enough - but really it's all about priorities. And the odds are if you linger inside the plane you're either going to drown there, and even if you don't then the chances of ending up in the water when you get out are pretty high too. Apparently there has been an experiment over here (UK) where they wanted to inject some realism into the evacuation time tests they do - instead of just letting the non-paniced student volunteers leave the plane in an orderly fashion and get out in double quick time, they offered a decent prize to the first thirty people to get out. That was much more like a real life evacuation - fighting, climbing over each other etc. etc. Took a lot longer too. Not a good place to be. Well, if you had to be in a plane crash, this one was the place to be. You had an almost impossibly skilled and calm pilot, a co-pilot with 24 years experience, and excellent flight crew, passengers who in general were sensible and well behaved, and local (canyou REALLY call NYC local?) rescue boats that evidently were teleported to the scene. I know of one other water landing off a NYC airport, and it might have been from Idewild, maybe 40-45 years ago. Everyone died. This time, no one died. A much to be preferred result. Congratulations to all the professionals involved, and many of the volunteers. The pilot and his family are a total american dream. Almost every cliche and sterotype applys. He is being called a publicist's dream. I wonder how many movies, good and bad will be made of this incident. |
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